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  • #16
    Originally posted by saipranav View Post
    I need some information, i have a Learning licence right now(for motorcycle with gear), am i allowed to ride anywhere on there road or are there any restrictions?
    Could not find much info about this on google
    no riding on sidewalks. that's about it.

    everywhere else is legal.

    make sure you have learner plates on the front and back of the bike.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by xionite View Post
      no riding on sidewalks. that's about it.

      everywhere else is legal.

      make sure you have learner plates on the front and back of the bike.
      Thx dude, gotta go tour some places now
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      • #18
        Originally posted by saipranav View Post
        I need some information, i have a Learning licence right now(for motorcycle with gear), am i allowed to ride anywhere on there road or are there any restrictions? ...
        Anywhere with some restrictions . These restrictions should be mentioned on your L( Learner) licence papers or somewhere similar . Basically a learner licensee has to be accompanied by a valid license holder driver for the same vehicle type at all times he is learning on it .

        Originally posted by xionite View Post
        it's not a traffic cop's job to simply assume that a bike's been stolen.
        arrested for suspected theft?

        traffic policeman (constable) can't even fine you let alone arrest you.

        "Only traffic officers of the rank of assistant sub-inspector and above have the powers to impose fines"
        SOURCE: The Times of India

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        Let alone a traffic cop , even I (as a private citizen) can arrest you under certain circumstances . Read about Sec. 43 CrPC . I don't read up about India's laws and and the constitution from newspapers or TV . Using this section 43 CrPC , lower ranking policemen often affect immediate arrests , that are later formalised at the police station .

        Originally posted by saipranav View Post
        Thats bull shit, the last thing on the mind of a bloody indian policeman is to catch a terrorist, all he wants is to go home with some money in his pocket, and you said the vehicle can be stolen and used by terrorists... whenever a vehicle is stolen, police can make a note of the engine chasis no. bike no. etc,.. and when they see some terrorist riding it,they can catch him, but if i'm riding my fathers/mothers motorcycle and when his name is written in bold letters on my driving licence as my father and if the bike is registered in his name, then i dont see any reason why they should mistake me with a terrorist(untill some terrorist manages to bribe some idiot and get a lisence on my name)
        The law puts the onus on you to establish your ownership of the vehicle , beyond reasonable doubt ; and not on the policeman . That is the law . In general laws are not dependent on your understanding or ignorance of it , to be invoked .

        Originally posted by xionite View Post
        it's not a traffic cop's job to simply assume that a bike's been stolen.....
        this has nothing to do with terrorism...
        here's a list of offenses by the mumbai traffic police...
        you'll notice... that there's no fine for riding someone else's bike
        (even if you don't have their "written" consent.)
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        If that has been the attitude of the Mumbai Policemen , that they would not try to establish the proper ownership of a motor vehicle while checking it on the road ; that would be very sad state of security in the city indeed , and would leave no doubt who is to blame for the three scooter bomb blasts in this city yesterday that took so many lives away !
        Last edited by Pinaki; 07-15-2011, 10:18 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
          Let alone a traffic cop , even I (as a private citizen) can arrest you under certain circumstances . Read about Sec. 43 CrPC . I don't read up about India's laws and and the constitution from newspapers or TV . Using this section 43 CrPC , lower ranking policemen often affect immediate arrests , that are later formalised at the police station .
          The Code of Criminal Procedure, 1973 (CrPc) - Section 43
          Any private person may arrest or cause to be arrested any person who in his presence commits a non-bailable and cognizable offence,
          or any proclaimed offender, and, without unnecessary delay, shall make over or cause to be made over any person so arrested to a police officer,
          or, in the absence of a police officer, take such person or cause him to be taken in custody to the nearest police station.


          and if that was so easy to do... i'd just turn around... and arrest him back.

          NO! u arrest me? u arrest ME? i arrest YOU !

          Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
          The law puts the onus on you to establish your ownership of the vehicle , beyond reasonable doubt ; and not on the policeman.
          there are so many ways to do that.

          arresting someone is the last resort.

          Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
          If that has been the attitude of the Mumbai Policemen , that they would not try to establish the proper ownership of a motor vehicle while checking it on the road ; that would be very sad state of security in the city indeed , and would leave no doubt who is to blame for the three scooter bomb blasts in this city yesterday that took so many lives away !
          firstly... whether you like it or not...
          a traffic cop CANNOT stop you n check your documents... without you committing a traffic violation.

          that is the law.

          if he does...
          and if the bike you're riding doesn't happen to be registered on your name...
          that doesn't give him the right to assume that you're a thief/terrorist.

          that's just crazy.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by xionite View Post
            firstly... whether you like it or not...
            a traffic cop CANNOT stop you n check your documents... without you committing a traffic violation.....
            that doesn't give him the right to assume that you're a thief/terrorist.
            that's just crazy.
            Happens all the time here , itz a crazy country bhai ... I've been stopped and checked I dunno how many times .... sometimes thrice in three consecutive days on the same route .. specially after some terrorist attack happens anywhere .. they intensify the checks here .... or before the republic day too ... or say I'm riding out late at night after 12 ... which I have to do often . It is no use arguing with the cops ... saab , special checking chal rahi hai saab ... they'll say . I keep my helmet on & personal Identification and bike papers clear at all times and never give them opportunity for any doubt , and have never wasted more than 5-10 minutes anywhere . I have asked my RTO office (while I was there re-newing my licence) and they said that, that permission letter thing is necessary and what it should contain , and I have given one to my wifey's driver and instructed him to let them check the boot/undercarriage with mirrors etc readily without any argument , to spare him any unnecessary trouble too , and he has since had'nt any . It's my quiet way of dealing with such things ; you can choose to fight and shout it out, or go to court about it against them , with my best wishes .
            Last edited by Pinaki; 07-17-2011, 01:30 AM.

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            • #21
              +10 to that, pinaki
              Dont argue, dont fight, stay cool. Do whatever he wants you to. You wont loose more then 5min.

              My query..
              I dont have any PUC certificate, neither my city has equipments for measuring my bike's PUC levels. What should i do if some cops asks for that? My friend have been in the same situation and she did the bribe thingy. Amounted 50 rupees only.
              Last edited by Honda_CBF; 07-17-2011, 12:14 PM.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
                +10 to that, pinaki
                Dont argue, dont fight, stay cool. Do whatever he wants you to. You wont loose more then 5min.

                My query..
                I dont have any PUC certificate, neither my city has equipments for measuring my bike's PUC levels. What should i do if some cops asks for that? My friend have been in the same situation and she did the bribe thingy. Amounted 50 rupees only.
                A puc certification costs 30rs max for 6 months..... and i cant believe that a city like jamshedpur doesnt have the equipment for checking PUC levels..... check out with a local mechanic he might know some place where it is done... normally you find these equipments in some petrol pumps and sometimes in a maruti van parked on the roadside with a big banner saying "RTO approved" or "PUC"
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
                  +10 to that, pinaki
                  Dont argue, dont fight, stay cool. Do whatever he wants you to. You wont loose more then 5min.
                  My query..
                  I dont have any PUC certificate, neither my city has equipments for measuring my bike's PUC levels. What should i do if some cops asks for that? My friend have been in the same situation and she did the bribe thingy. Amounted 50 rupees only.
                  That's strange ... been to Jamshedpur many times ... it has roads soooo much better than calcutta (sigh!) ... and almost everyone has a bike there it seems ; and no PUC testing centre ?!!? darns !
                  Over here all the three HeroHonda service centres I frequent has RTO approved PUC testing and certifying equipment ; so I get it done from there . There is an advantage to it too , the Hero Honda service tunes my bike or corrects any problems until it passes the test .. for free . Check your nearest HeroHonda Service . And ohh I saw that they do any other makes of bikes too .. minus the free tinkering to pass .
                  As a last resort , you may have to check with the Jamshedpur RTO office and ask them whom they have authorised to issue PUC certificates in the city .

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                  • #24
                    Guys, jamshedpur still has 3 RTO Approved PUC testing center for petrol engines but all of them are out of order. And They charge there customers freely, i mean my dad paid 70 rupees for getting puc clearance some 2 yrs ago!
                    Edit: will definately check HHASS, MASS, YASS, etc
                    Last edited by Honda_CBF; 07-17-2011, 06:28 PM.
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