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  • Sprocket change @ 10k. P220

    Humara Bajaj!

    My pulsar 220f is 6 months old and I would like to confirm a few things before I spend anymore money on maintenance.
    I just completed my 3rd service @ 9k kms. The list of problems I was facing was long. Including fairing vibrations, front shocks problems, speedometer cable gone bad, 1 headlight not functioning, my seat is making a squeaking noise (this is really annoying on bad roads!), and the biggest problem of them all was my chain was making a lot of noise.
    After the usual bajaj service (i.e, most of the problems were not fixed), they told me that my sprocket has to be changed. After telling them that the bike is only 6 months old and that the chain has been lubricated at regular intervals, no go.
    So, basically my question is should I fight some more to get it done under warrantly (I know the sprocket does not come under warranty, but still the bike is just 6 months old which was not ripped too much) or just go ahead and get it changed myself.

    Thanks in advance.
    Sachin
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  • #2
    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      thats pretty normal with 220s . i myself have a 220dtsfi and have done somewhere around 32k and this is my 3rd set . this chain and sprocket is indeed high maintainece . my bike is seldom used locally and i jus bought for my touring needs , eventhough i dont ride it that often the chain and sprocket needs to be oil/sprayed regularly .

      i have been riding a bajaj for more than 3 years , but honestly the quality sucks !! especially a 220dtsfi needs more attention than ur girl .
      tc buddy and oil it more often u might jus be able to stretch the chainset by an extra 2-3k ;-)

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      • #4
        Thats definitely not normal. I am at 34k km. Currently running my 2nd sprocket+chain set. The first one lasted a good 23-24k km.

        How often do you lube / clean your chain? (Not implying that I do it very often. Just asking) Ideally, it should be at least lubed every 8 days/ 500km.
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        • #5
          I have a feeling my bike will fall apart soon. And the pbk guys have no clue what they are doing around here. The fairing, mirrors etc are all rattling me crazy! Esp when you go on a tour. Using earphones and ignoring are the only options that remain. I might just go ahead and sell this off for a R15 v2.0 or wait for a few more months and get the CBR.

          I lube it once in 2 weeks using motul chain lube. Use diesel to clean the chain.

          So, basically my question is should I fight some more to get it done under warrantly (I know the sprocket does not come under warranty, but still the bike is just 6 months old which was not ripped too much) or just go ahead and get it changed myself.
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          • #6
            tough luck mate. But this is not normal. A sprocket should last atleast 18-20k kms without maintainance and mixed riding conditions. Your other problems seem rather minor and easily repairable and its surprising that the svc guys could not do it. No you wont get the sprocket or chain under warranty. But use your own judgement to see if the chain and sprocket is required to be changed. and if you have to then change the entire set.

            all the best
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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Monk View Post
              tough luck mate. But this is not normal. A sprocket should last atleast 18-20k kms without maintainance and mixed riding conditions. Your other problems seem rather minor and easily repairable and its surprising that the svc guys could not do it. No you wont get the sprocket or chain under warranty. But use your own judgement to see if the chain and sprocket is required to be changed. and if you have to then change the entire set.

              all the best
              Ah well, what can you do?
              It's gone completely, I was surprised myself when the pbk mech showed me how bad it was. I confirmed with a couple of other local mechanics. They confirmed it for me.
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              • #8
                In the 2 years (16000 km) that i have had my 220, there has been chain change only once that too because during that particular period i hadn't changed lubricated it.
                When you lubricate the chain, do you clean it as well before the lubrication? May be that could also be a factor
                Now i feel it wouldn't be of much use trying to get the job done under warranty.
                In any case it is better to to get your lubrication (including cleaning) done at least every 800 km.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dott1991 View Post
                  Humara Bajaj!

                  My pulsar 220f is 6 months old and I would like to confirm a few things before I spend anymore money on maintenance.
                  I just completed my 3rd service @ 9k kms. The list of problems I was facing was long. Including fairing vibrations, front shocks problems, speedometer cable gone bad, 1 headlight not functioning, my seat is making a squeaking noise (this is really annoying on bad roads!), and the biggest problem of them all was my chain was making a lot of noise.
                  After the usual bajaj service (i.e, most of the problems were not fixed), they told me that my sprocket has to be changed. After telling them that the bike is only 6 months old and that the chain has been lubricated at regular intervals, no go.
                  So, basically my question is should I fight some more to get it done under warrantly (I know the sprocket does not come under warranty, but still the bike is just 6 months old which was not ripped too much) or just go ahead and get it changed myself.

                  Thanks in advance.
                  Sachin
                  You cant claim warranty for it. But insurance claim can be done, find out how much you will get from the Bajaj SVC. If its less then better not claim since your next premium amount will shoot up by 200rs or so.

                  My guess is your sprocket was not in proper line with chain, what I mean is if you had changed tyres or if someone meddled with the adjustment of nut on swing arm or while setting shock tension or whatever (in total sense the mechanic who serviced did not check for any wierd movement of the sprocket / wheel during regular service) etc. They might have not observed the same adjustment on both left and right. Even an single mm difference will result in chain and sprocket wear rapidly! This you cant generally keep a look out for. So those who had the luck to have perfect wheel adjustment and never hit potholes or speedbumps at high speed have been blessed to have chain + sprocket last atleast a good 20K km.

                  This time change both the front and rear sprocket along with chain, get any other minor repairs you want done, like wheel alignment, also since you are talking of vibrations i guess you need to get fork bend and fork oil change done, check the bearings and any other possible need at rear end too. Also major changes that take place at 10K km like spark plugs so that you can claim insurance saying that someone knocked over your parked bike and you had to undergo all these changes for it.

                  I know it sounds too much for a new bike yet to get its 3rd service done, but going by your words this is what it has come down to, and remember just changing rear sprocket will not help, again there will be wear since your chain and front sprocket is also mostly kaput(worn out or almost brink of it)!

                  As for seat making noise, try to find where its getting friction and apply silicone oil/spray to stop the squeaking sound, the silicone sprays help prevent rubber cracking and drying and for use on metal-to-nonmetal or nonmetal-to-nonmetal contact surfaces with like nylon, cardboard, fiberglass, wood or plastic surfaces. Also it acts as water repellent, I know a friend who uses silicone spray and buffs off it on his leather shoes in rainy season!
                  Last edited by prajnyan; 12-25-2011, 02:50 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Get the SVC guys by the scruff of their necks and get them to replace it for free.There is no way that the chain sprocket on a new bike would go bad so soon.Maybe the SVC guys just lubricated the chain without cleaning it first,that is one of the most common mistakes those guys commit due to their laziness .It is one of the main reasons for damage to the Chain sprocket as exposed chains in bikes always tend to gather large quantities of dirt,this acts like sandpaper on the surfaces of the metal.Tip:In future ask the SVC guys to Clean and lube the chain in your presence.

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                    • #11
                      @dott1991

                      Same issue with My ride also done 12k 6 months old, I asked them why my chain get loose so often, They said its time to change the chain sprocket I was like Wtf he said You can manage for another 2k..

                      Making to much of noise sometimes scrubbing sound comes from the chain looks like the tight the chain little too tight not sure.

                      What u think guys
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                      • #12
                        If you plan on getting the chain sprocket replaced then you can try getting the sets used in other bikes like RTR180 (It will make the gearing a bit shorter and increase acceleration) also, the chain sprocket on the apache is quite reliable and needs comparatively less maintenance.You can also use the ones from R15 although I would suggest asking an owner of an R15 about its reliability.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for all the replies guys.

                          Latest updates.
                          I went to an old mech of mine who used to take care of my old bike and is really good ( Vicky Bhai in Nerul) as the bike is now close to unrideable in traffic. The gears get stuck and its impossible to change gears at low speed, 20-30, and when standing still I can't even get from 2nd to 1st. I have to move the bike back or forth and then change!
                          This time the mech told me that the sprocket is completely dead and now the clutch plate too needs to be replaced it seems! I'm still wondering what could have caused this kind of wear in such a short period of time. The bike was delivered to me on the 22nd of June and has clocked around 11-12k Kms. Serviced on time, chain lubed at regular intervals.
                          Maybe its my riding style? I rip occasionally I've maxed the bike @ 147-148. But I normally ride @ 64kmph which comes at 4k rpm exactly. Most of my shifts are done between 4-6k rpm. I accelerate a little while shifting down. I use engine braking to slow the bike whenever possible.
                          I need to know the reason behind this kind of wear so atleast I can drop a proper mail to Bajaj and get some of this covered.

                          P.S - I'm taking the bike to a mechanic in chembur just incase :/
                          Last edited by dott1991; 01-20-2012, 04:16 PM.
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                          • #14
                            hi this is my first post on XBHP

                            in dis case i can call myself lucky enuf as i got some really good n dedicated mechanics.. noise from the chain is common n to get rid of it use chain lube... my bike is 70k done n still runs as good as new. d only prob i had dat was wid d frnt shocks.. i travelled from kanpur (UP) to delhi for d auto expo, d highway was ok ok bt some how i managed to put my bike in some big pot holes resulting my shocks got bent..
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dott1991 View Post
                              Thanks for all the replies guys.

                              Latest updates.
                              I went to an old mech of mine who used to take care of my old bike and is really good ( Vicky Bhai in Nerul) as the bike is now close to unrideable in traffic. The gears get stuck and its impossible to change gears at low speed, 20-30, and when standing still I can't even get from 2nd to 1st. I have to move the bike back or forth and then change!
                              This time the mech told me that the sprocket is completely dead and now the clutch plate too needs to be replaced it seems! I'm still wondering what could have caused this kind of wear in such a short period of time. The bike was delivered to me on the 22nd of June and has clocked around 11-12k Kms. Serviced on time, chain lubed at regular intervals.
                              Maybe its my riding style? I rip occasionally I've maxed the bike @ 147-148. But I normally ride @ 64kmph which comes at 4k rpm exactly. Most of my shifts are done between 4-6k rpm. I accelerate a little while shifting down. I use engine braking to slow the bike whenever possible.
                              I need to know the reason behind this kind of wear so atleast I can drop a proper mail to Bajaj and get some of this covered.

                              P.S - I'm taking the bike to a mechanic in chembur just incase :/
                              This, my friend is the case with most pulsar owners saying they did not expect such short life from their bike component.

                              After all the image of Bajaj to me as a company that is trying to make most profit by selling large volume of bikes to ppl knowing very well that quality doesn't matter as long as they churn out bikes that satisfy customer requisite of looks, mileage, cost, speed.

                              And they are not to be blamed coz nowadays no goods are being manufactured keeping in mind for long life, do you know anyone patching his torn shirt, or resole the shoes, rewire the headphone plug or repair the damaged cellphone. Everyone buys a new one as it just costs a little more to get a new one, the same is what Bajaj thinks of its bike and components.

                              You just have to live with it, on second thought be happy that your bike spares are atleast 40% cheaper than an honda / suzuki bike of same class.
                              Last edited by prajnyan; 01-21-2012, 04:32 AM.
                              There are no short-cuts to any place worth going. So ride safe when you are treading uncharted roads.

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