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  • #16
    Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    umm.. good to hear it wasn't anything major. anyway keep an eye on the oil level everyday.
    yup.. sure.. thanks.
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    • #17
      Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

      Originally posted by s1d View Post
      umm.. good to hear it wasn't anything major. anyway keep an eye on the oil level everyday.
      Hey S1d,

      Is there any difference between doing a engine re-bore and 'just change the block-piston'?
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      • #18
        Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

        Originally posted by I_Live2Ride View Post
        Is there any difference between doing a engine re-bore and 'just change the block-piston'?
        By reboring you increase the cylinder diameter and put a new piston and rings that match it.
        By changing the bore and piston everything remains the standard stock size. The latter is expensive though.


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        • #19
          Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

          In case of Pulsar series, both are almost same. A rebore gonna cost you around 1200 rupees and a new block gonna cost 1750 rupees IIRC, so it's better to change the block.
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          • #20
            Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

            Originally posted by I_Live2Ride View Post
            Hey S1d,

            Is there any difference between doing a engine re-bore and 'just change the block-piston'?
            the difference lies in the quality of the work done (apart from the slight increase in cubic capacity of the bike since you remove some material from the bore during rebore). but as rightly pointed out in the prev post by Cleaner, the cost of a pulsar bore+piston kit is pretty cheap and would be a safe bet to have it replaced if one plans to hold on to the bike for a long time.
            If you can get hold of a competent workshop that does reboring, then you may save around 800rs . but if the rebore is not proper, then you may end up spending more money on again opening up the engine and replacing with a new block piston kit.

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            • #21
              Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

              Originally posted by I_Live2Ride View Post
              Hey S1d,

              Is there any difference between doing a engine re-bore and 'just change the block-piston'?
              When the local mechanic rebores the cylinder he would also recondition the crankshaft and connecting rod. All put together the costs could be around 1000/-
              When your service center guy replaces the bore kit, in the name of overhaul, he may also or probably will replace other components like timing chain, clutch kit, valves, guides as well and the resulting cost would be around 6k. That is how they are trained to do it.

              You get a service warranty in a showroom for bore kit replacement unlike the earlier option.

              Mileage remains the same with replacement kit rather than reboring.
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              • #22
                Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post
                When the local mechanic rebores the cylinder he would also recondition the crankshaft and connecting rod. All put together the costs could be around 1000/-
                When your service center guy replaces the bore kit, in the name of overhaul, he may also or probably will replace other components like timing chain, clutch kit, valves, guides as well and the resulting cost would be around 6k. That is how they are trained to do it.

                You get a service warranty in a showroom for bore kit replacement unlike the earlier option.

                Mileage remains the same with replacement kit rather than reboring.
                Thanks.. I am planning to keep my ride for life long.. and eagerly waiting to bring either a P375 or RC390 in my garage... ( If they ever get lauched )

                I user her for daily commuting and I can shell out some 5k-6k to regain her original performance... So If I understand properly, I should get the block-piston changed along with timing chain, clutch kit, valves, guides etc..Is that correct? Does Engine rebore means reconditioning the existing cylinder, piston etc and put it back again?
                @Cleaner and @s1d.. Thankyou..! :Thumbs up:
                Last edited by I_Live2Ride; 09-27-2013, 12:53 PM.
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                • #23
                  Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                  Engine re-bore means, they will bore the engine (increasing the dia of cylinder) by some millimeters. After boring, they will hone it (polishing the cylinder walls). I guess they will keep the same piston, but with new set of piston rings. I would advise you to go for a complete new piston block, if the cost of re-boring and new block is close enough.

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                  • #24
                    Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                    Originally posted by I_Live2Ride View Post
                    So If I understand properly, I should get the block-piston changed along with timing chain, clutch kit, valves, guides etc..Is that correct? Does Engine rebore means reconditioning the existing cylinder, piston etc and put it back again?
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                    • #25
                      Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                      Originally posted by I_Live2Ride View Post
                      I user her for daily commuting and I can shell out some 5k-6k to regain her original performance... So If I understand properly, I should get the block-piston changed along with timing chain, clutch kit, valves, guides etc..Is that correct? Does Engine rebore means reconditioning the existing cylinder, piston etc and put it back again?
                      If you can spend around 6k, then it would be better to get the block piston kit replaced and check the other parts you mentioned and replace if necessary. IMO a pulsar engine rebuild wouldn't cost more than 8k under normal wear/tear condition.

                      Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                      Engine re-bore means, they will bore the engine (increasing the dia of cylinder) by some millimeters. After boring, they will hone it (polishing the cylinder walls). I guess they will keep the same piston, but with new set of piston rings.
                      Yes, that is a correct explanation for re-boring. but you DON'T use the same piston, it is normally an oversize piston+ring set (which are usually available in sizes such as .25 , .50 , .75 and 1 - indicating 1st oversize, 2nd 3rd 4th oversize)
                      There is a post by Ravi on the Karizma thread showing you the re bore and honing process(video clip). Take a look at it here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ma-r-1377.html
                      Last edited by s1d; 09-27-2013, 03:22 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                        Originally posted by s1d View Post
                        If you can spend around 6k, then it would be better to get the block piston kit replaced and check the other parts you mentioned and replace if necessary. IMO a pulsar engine rebuild wouldn't cost more than 8k under normal wear/tear condition.



                        Yes, that is a correct explanation for re-boring. but you DON'T use the same piston, it is normally an oversize piston+ring set (which are usually available in sizes such as .25 , .50 , .75 and 1 - indicating 1st oversize, 2nd 3rd 4th oversize)
                        There is a post by Ravi on the Karizma thread showing you the re bore and honing process(video clip). Take a look at it here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ma-r-1377.html
                        Okay!! So would it be possible to increase the 180cc by few CCs?? I mean 180 ka 190 or 200cc??

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                        • #27
                          Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                          Originally posted by I_Live2Ride View Post
                          Okay!! So would it be possible to increase the 180cc by few CCs?? I mean 180 ka 190 or 200cc??

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                          The boring done is just few millimeters. This does not help in uprating the power of the bike. Also, increasing the 180cc to 200cc is not good. Various factors come into play for this. Maybe you can upgrade the bike to have more power

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                          • #28
                            Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                            Originally posted by I_Live2Ride View Post
                            Okay!! So would it be possible to increase the 180cc by few CCs?? I mean 180 ka 190 or 200cc??
                            Re boring just removes very little metal from the bore increasing its diameter a little, so technically the cc would increase a bit [maybe 3-5cc, my math is week so dont ask how much exactly ]. Don't even think about making it a 200cc, not worth the headache! Just get a stock block+piston kit and rebuild it and enjoy the ride.

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                            • #29
                              Re: P180 consuming a lot of engine oil and getting overheated.

                              My p200 dtsi has no changed in mileage (48 in city and 54 on highway) and no smoke from exhaust but the engine heats up and noisy vibration from engine just like any electric motor running.
                              There is some mild knocking sound from exhaust when decelerated
                              Any suggestions !!!

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