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  • #31
    Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

    i dont do this often, when im in mysore. but i had underestimated the traffic, hence i ended up being late to a workshop i was attending.
    Now gear shifts have become even smoother, after the 150km journey As smooth as in a yamaha

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    FE in B'lore traffic - a disappointing 35kmpl

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    I would also like to mention that when i said i was cruising at a speed of 110-120 kmph on the highway, it was for a small stretch of 2-3kms And i wanted to test the performance of my bike, which i hadn't done ever since i got it repaired recently . For months i hadn't even crossed 60kmph on my bike .

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    • #32
      Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

      Dude you need to change your riding habits!I hope you wear a helmet. I don't understand one thing. A lot of people say they love their bike, but the minute they see another bike of similar capacity speeding or in your case craze for speed comes over, people harass the bike. Please remember that no matter how much you love your bike or hallucinate your bike to be a Hayabusa or R1, it won't change a thing. Every bike has its own ups and downs. Don't expect more and land up at roadside mechanic "tuning centers" Please learn to accept facts and enjoy the wonderful machine called "BIKE"!

      Ride hard, ride safe


      Originally posted by shreyakms View Post
      As smooth as in a yamaha
      Seriously dude?
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      150cc doing 100+ is great!
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      • #33
        Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

        pulsar 180 ug4 is not starting suddenly after some time running, went to a good mechanic in local he said CDI coil is not working as current is not coming in both spark plug after changing it same problem. after checking the whole current supply it was not identify what is the main problem in 180. Showroom technician is also failed to identify but 1 thing is notice that headlight vizor is heat as it was raining but still it was hot but all other electric switch is working ( indicators, headlight, horn ) but not only bike is not starting plz help out immediate so can we fix the problem.











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        • #34
          Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

          Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post

          Seriously dude?
          hahaha.. a pulsar as smooth as a yamaha?? I am now starting to guess that Bajaj has put in a yamaha engine on his bike instead of a Pulsar Engine

          No offence

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          Originally posted by karila View Post
          pulsar 180 ug4 is not starting suddenly after some time running, went to a good mechanic in local he said CDI coil is not working as current is not coming in both spark plug after changing it same problem. after checking the whole current supply it was not identify what is the main problem in 180. Showroom technician is also failed to identify but 1 thing is notice that headlight vizor is heat as it was raining but still it was hot but all other electric switch is working ( indicators, headlight, horn ) but not only bike is not starting plz help out immediate so can we fix the problem.
          check the starting relay..
          Last edited by rreneav1987; 08-27-2013, 09:32 PM.
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          • #35
            Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

            Originally posted by Vykier View Post
            Firstly, I'd like to know if you run-in the machine properly (regardless of what the manual says)? If yes, then you've been sold a lemon engine which is taking both the mechanics and you on a tizzy. The K&N also could be a contributing factor to the problem if it allowed particle dust inside and the walls of the cylinder got scratched at high RPM. It somehow sounds like an abused or a lemon engine to me. When the engine or one of its components like the valves or the cams get damaged, its bound to put pressure on other components... you'd be able to get a fair difference by playing with the diaphragm due to change in fuel/air mixture but the problem will still persist if not worsen. You didn't mention the recommended oil grade for the bike? Anyway if you still want to salvage it, take it to a big, recommended Bajaj service station - don't tell them symptoms... just say that you want them to take the engine unit out to thoroughly check the cams, valves, spark plug inlets, cylinder walls, piston head and piston rings for any marks, scratches, dents and irregularities... if they go on and to this, by now they'd probably recommend a re-bore and some engine parts replacement... which gets me to the question... Do you have any engine warranty? My cbr came with a 5 year extended for the engine. You should take that before you approach the mechs for engine checkup if you have it. Otherwise, just sell the lemon if you think you've already spent too much and get a new one...




            The recomended oil grade is 20w50 for my p180. and i had a slow run-in . Cannot trust the service centers here. I had been to almost every authorised service center in mysore, and noone had given me the same opinion . the engine has warranty, but cam chain, clutch plate plates come under the category of 'regular wear and tear' hence not covered under warranty.

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            • #36
              Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

              Originally posted by shreyakms View Post
              The recomended oil grade is 20w50 for my p180. and i had a slow run-in . Cannot trust the service centers here. I had been to almost every authorised service center in mysore, and noone had given me the same opinion . the engine has warranty, but cam chain, clutch plate plates come under the category of 'regular wear and tear' hence not covered under warranty.
              Okay... now it makes more sense...

              Big mistake no 1 - installing an aftermarket filter so early meant that you did have the passion to push that thing early.
              Big Mistake no 2 - You changed the oil grade to something suitable for colder engine temps than recommended.

              Point 1 looks like it was indeed something to do with the carb (could be dirt in petrol or air filtering problem... which was sorted.

              Point 2 you put an aftermarket fake air filter, changed the oil to a cooler setting and given it some throttle... what happened next was normal - When the engine heat went up (during throttle) the oil you used which wasn't the recommended grade couldn't keep the temperatures in control resulting expansion of piston heads and blown piston rings.

              You will have to go in for a re-bore, the mechanics are always dissuading when it comes to engine work because as always they will try and see if there is any other probable problem. The issue with this is that we dont go to one single mechanic who knows the history of your bike, so every mech will try the same process of elimination... therefore I suggest you dont get into the process of elimination with the mechanics... simple tell them the bike needs a rebore or piston rings change. About your drive-train (gearbox, clutch, crank shaft etc) doesnt seem to have any problems. White smoke and engine oil glugging/addiction is a clear sign of some gap in the ignition chamber (oil leaks in to produce white smoke) so unless you put engine oil in your fuel tank... it should be that.

              Hope you find peace of mind quickly.

              Cheers

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              • #37
                Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post
                Dude you need to change your riding habits!I hope you wear a helmet. I don't understand one thing. A lot of people say they love their bike, but the minute they see another bike of similar capacity speeding or in your case craze for speed comes over, people harass the bike. Please remember that no matter how much you love your bike or hallucinate your bike to be a Hayabusa or R1, it won't change a thing. Every bike has its own ups and downs. Don't expect more and land up at roadside mechanic "tuning centers" Please learn to accept facts and enjoy the wonderful machine called "BIKE"!

                Pls do not misunderstand, u seem to be under the impression that i abuse my bike, which is untrue and i do wear helmet yes, sometimes(maybe once in a couple of months) i cant resist the temptation to twist the throttle a little, to experience the 17horses my bike has to offer. I do speed up, but i never cross the 8500 rpm deadline mark Afterall its not a 100cc motorcycle(with all due respect to 100cc vehicles), its a sports bike and these bikes are made, designed to be ridden fast right? what is the use of shelling out 80k rupees on a sports bike(indian standards) and not be able to enjoy what it has to offer and instead ride it like a commuter bike? Ofcourse abusing the bike, speeding up in traffic etc is wrong and i accept it but going at 100-120 kmph once in a while (in my case quite rare) shouldn't necessarily damage my bike right? and i always ride at an average speed of 45-60 kmph. once i had installed k&n air-filter, but had it removed very soon. so apart from that, ive maintained my bike stock. and i always clean it regularly, even at the slightest problem, irregularity i immediately take my bike to the authorised service center. I never leave any problem unattended. Once, i did a horrible mistake of taking my bike to an outside mechanic, but apart from that i always get my bike serviced at ASCs only.



                Originally posted by Vykier View Post
                Okay... now it makes more sense...

                Big mistake no 1 - installing an aftermarket filter so early meant that you did have the passion to push that thing early.
                Big Mistake no 2 - You changed the oil grade to something suitable for colder engine temps than recommended.
                yes, installing 'k&n" was probably the biggest mistake. but what every mechanic said about the white smoke was that the carb was not tuned properly. so, i got it removed very soon and had the stock ones back in place . As soon as that was done, the white smoke stopped immediately. (no other modifications were done, just replaced the filters) . Wrong grade oil was also a factor, perhaps as i changed the oil too
                And also when i got connecting rod 'play' corrected, i stood in front of the mechanic as he removed the engine, piston, valves etc. I stood watching the entire process (from removing everything to fitting back), i also took a thorough look at the cylinder, piston . There weren't any scratches on either the piston or cylinder. the valves were also replaced with new ones.
                Now after i recently got everything repaired, bike's become pretty normal now. Ive been checking every pulsar i can, and i found out that the vibrations that are present now are present, not only in every other pulsar, but every other bike also (less in honda and yamaha) .
                Also, today i returned to mysore from bangalore(journey on bike). In bangalore traffic i got a FE of around 35kmpl. In the highway i got 45-48kmpl

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                Originally posted by karila View Post
                pulsar 180 ug4 is not starting suddenly after some time running, went to a good mechanic in local he said CDI coil is not working as current is not coming in both spark plug after changing it same problem. after checking the whole current supply it was not identify what is the main problem in 180. Showroom technician is also failed to identify but 1 thing is notice that headlight vizor is heat as it was raining but still it was hot but all other electric switch is working ( indicators, headlight, horn ) but not only bike is not starting plz help out immediate so can we fix the problem.

                Try jump starting it once, if it starts then the problem is probably with the starter.

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                Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post



                Seriously dude?
                Well almost as smooth as in a yamaha I can say it was smoothest it has ever been
                Last edited by shreyakms; 08-29-2013, 02:26 AM.

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                • #38
                  Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                  Originally posted by shreyakms View Post
                  Now after i recently got everything repaired, bike's become pretty normal now. Ive been checking every pulsar i can, and i found out that the vibrations that are present now are present, not only in every other pulsar, but every other bike also (less in honda and yamaha) .
                  Also, today i returned to mysore from bangalore(journey on bike). In bangalore traffic i got a FE of around 35kmpl. In the highway i got 45-48kmpl
                  Good... Looks like you're finally settled then.

                  Cheers.

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                  • #39
                    Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                    Thumps up if you are taking care of your ride man. When you said 110kmph in front of Kanteevara stadium it gave me a bad impression. That's why the lecture. Dude everyone gets good open roads once in a while in the city. That doesn't mean one can speed. Remember our country is filled with idiots. And the problem with idiots is they are like the drunken master. They themselves don't know what they are going to do next. And that leaves us in risk even when we are not at mistake. I am always for speed until its a highway dude but no, not in city. And dude......get a life man. Start redlining! No problem with doing that once in a while that. I just thought you were one of those guys who churns the shit out of bikes always. My bad! And good to see your bike is back in good condition. Do check on the P180 thread for more details on your bike!

                    Ride hard, ride safe
                    Last edited by harishkumarko; 08-29-2013, 03:24 PM.
                    Tour De Thekkady

                    The Return of the KB

                    The Run-in Adventure

                    150cc doing 100+ is great!
                    100cc doing 100+ is awesome!!
                    150cc cornering like hell is great!
                    100cc cornering like hell is awesome!!
                    THAT'S WHY I RIDE A RTZ!!

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                    • #40
                      Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                      actually i was pretty new to bangalore traffic. Was supposed to be in richmond road at 9 30 am. Left home at 9am. (in mysore, if u r supposed to be somewhere at 9 30 and u leave at 9, u end up reaching atleast 15mins early) . It was 9 25 already and i still had around 8kms to cover. Had spent the previous 10 mins, moving just half a kilometre in a traffic jam. All this was new to me. When i entered the road in front of kanteerava stadium, even though there was traffic, it was a lot emptier. And when i looked at the speedo, it said 110. Couldn't help it as i had to reach my destination without much delay. Normally in city limits i dont cross 60kmph.

                      I have a query about polishing my bike.
                      I normally use Waxpol for this purpose ( after washing and drying) . Would it be allright to use waxpol ? Waxpol is actually used in polishing vinyl surfaces. Many people reckon(friends who've used waxpol on their pulsars, mechanics from the ASC etc) that it wont harm the paint. But i'd like to be sure before i use it again. Would it be allright if i use waxpol? How often should i wash my bike? Usually once in a month i give it a scrub.

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                      • #41
                        Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                        Originally posted by shreyakms View Post

                        I have a query about polishing my bike.
                        I normally use Waxpol for this purpose ( after washing and drying) . Would it be allright to use waxpol ? Waxpol is actually used in polishing vinyl surfaces. Many people reckon(friends who've used waxpol on their pulsars, mechanics from the ASC etc) that it wont harm the paint. But i'd like to be sure before i use it again. Would it be allright if i use waxpol? How often should i wash my bike? Usually once in a month i give it a scrub.
                        I recommend Motomax from pidlite. I am using this from past 2+ years and my bike still looks like a brand new one
                        2009-2012 Apache RTR Fi (Sold)
                        2012-2014 Pulsar 180 (Sold)
                        2017- **** Duke 390

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                        • #42
                          Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                          shell helix hx3 20w50 API sj:
                          I recently filled shell helix 20w50 hx3 in my pulsar 180 ug4. The oil grade seems to be right-20w50, API sj. But I recently read that shell helix is for cars and for bikes, its shell advance. This alarmed me. Since ive used this oil, will it harm the engine? So far ive experienced a smoother oil compared to the previous one. What should i do now? Continue riding or drain the oil and use a different one? The oil came in a 1ltr container.

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                          • #43
                            Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                            Originally posted by shreyakms View Post
                            shell helix hx3 20w50 API sj:
                            I recently filled shell helix 20w50 hx3 in my pulsar 180 ug4. The oil grade seems to be right-20w50, API sj. But I recently read that shell helix is for cars and for bikes, its shell advance. This alarmed me. Since ive used this oil, will it harm the engine? So far ive experienced a smoother oil compared to the previous one. What should i do now? Continue riding or drain the oil and use a different one? The oil came in a 1ltr container.
                            There is a lot of debate on using car specific engine oils on motorcycles with wet clutches.. but my advice would be for you to change the oil asap to any of the motorcycle specific oils from shell,motul,castrol etc.. and stick to the recommended grade which is 20w50 for the P180
                            With the car specific which you are using now, you may experience clutch slip (symptom: the engine revs rise but don't translate to much gain in speed)

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                            • #44
                              Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                              Bro,i have a question that is pricking my mind.When did you put K&N(i mean at how many kms on the odo)? and didn't you ask the service centre people to check the bike as its uner warranty at that time?

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