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    I have a 2011 pulsar 180 ug 4. Ive always been a fan of the pulsar. but mine has always given me problems. ive been getting unending problems ever since i bought it. ive spent nearly 15-20k on maintenance alone. ive done a top speed of 137kmph and i get an average mileage of 35kmph. here's a list of problems

    1) first few days the bike was very good, i used to get a mileage of nearly 50kmpl. and then one day when i throttled, the bike acted strangely. it acted like a bike acts when the petrol tank is dry even though there was 5 litres in the tank. this used to hppen only when i raised the throttle beyond 5k rpm. when i took it to the showroom, the mechanics said it was a problem with the carburettor and had it cleaned. my bike was normal now.

    2) after that, i installed k&n (or that's what it said on the box, i might've been given a fake) . i'd also used 10w40 engine oil. white smoke started coming from the silencer. within a few days a lot of engine oil was gone! i then got the 'k&n" removed and the tock filter re-installed. the white smoke stopped immediately.

    3) a few days after i removed k&n, whenever i took the bike past 80kmph, it would turn off and wouldn't start for a minute. then it woud start again. this ued to happen every time i took it past 80-90kmph. the showroom guys failed to rectify thi problem for 3-4 times. they said it was a problem with tuning. but the problem persisted. then, i took my bike to an outside mechanic. he changed the diaphragm. the problem was finally rectified.

    4) now, the major problem strarted a few weeks after that. i started hearing a kut kut sound from the engine. kinda tapping/knocking sound. i took it to the showroom immediately. they said it was a problem with the magnet bush kit or something and had to be replaced. i got it done and the problem wasn't there for 2days. it was back again. when i went back again, they just removed the left cover, tightened a few screws here and there. the problem wasn't gone.
    i rode it like that for a few more days until i couldn't tolerate it anymore. the performance was prety much normal except for that sound. i took it the outside mechanic. he said it could be a problem with the cam chain. he said he couldn't be sure until he opened and checked inside the engine. i'd done around 9k kms then. eventually, he opened up the engine, and declared that the connecting rod had developed a play and the bearing had to be replaced. he had it taken to a lathe, new bearings fit and got new valves as well. the cam chain was also replaced. finally after 3-4 days, i got back my bike. the tapping sound was gone. all this cost me around rs 5k.

    5) that wasn't an end. the engine was very vibey now. when i asked the mechanic, he said that ince all the parts were fitted tightly, it was natural. the clutch was very strange also. wouldn't release completely at all even if i'd released the lever and taken of my hand off the handle!! if i accelerated, the rpms would simply go up but none of the power was being transmitted to the the wheel. i then got the clutch plates changed at around 10k kms.

    6) everything was pretty ok except for the intense vibrations. the clutch lever was pretty tight after i got new clutch plates. i'd done around 12k kms. then, the same tapping/knocking sound from the engine which had made me poorer by rs 5k was back again to haunt me. this time i took it to the showroom . they replaced the magnetic bush kit(carburettor diaphragm also ). the problem came back after 2 days . (history repeats itself) . now the pick up was sluggish. rock hard gear shifts!! i'd had enough. a week ago, i wrote a complaint letter to the guys at bajaj. they contacted the showroom guys, had them call me and asked me to get the bike to he showroom to get checked. they noted down all the problems, and said it could be a problem with the cam chain and vibration could be caused by clutch plates. i'd done 14k kms now. (just 4k with new clutch plates)
    they took the bike for service. when i got my bike back, the bill amount was rs 4k! they said the clutch plates were 'burnt' !! they'd changed the cam chain and carburettor diaphragm . the labour cost, servicing cost and other costs added upto 4k!

    now the the gear shifts are pretty smooth. the tapping sounds are gone. although the engine sounds a little vibey. there is little rough sound when the engine is heated up.


    i have always changed engine oil at intervals of 2500kms . my average speed is 50-65 kmph. i shift gears b/w 4-5k rpms. apart from all these, ive also replaced the sprocket rubber half a dozen times. ive replaced the cone set twice. my bike has never failed to start at the first attempt.
    im tired of spending on my bike.

    please advice me on how to maintain my bike henceforth and enlighten me with the above mentioned problems.

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      Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

      I didn't read the whole part & stopped at "I installed K&N...". Well, to be honest, you screwed your own bike by installing "K&N". Installing these high performance part is a very specialized job & if done by a regular mechanic will only invite trouble which you are now facing. People may differ on this opinion of mine but I would still say that high performance mods should be done by a specialized person only.
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        I fully agree with [MENTION=11587]rx100.7050[/MENTION].

        You spelled doom for your bike with K&N. And you did 137 kmph on a P180?
        Leave aside expert mechanics/professionals, these aftermarket filters are not at all suitable for our puny bikes.

        If you wish to keep the bike further, I'd advice you a full engine rebuild and a proper run in later (rather than doing the same in stages). Stay stock!
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          Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

          OMG !!! I didn't know an aftermarket Air Filter would make such a difference on your machine. Almost all major parts around the engine of his bike got replaced, some twice !!!

          Can it for real that such things can happen. After all Air Filter's job to provide clean air. Pardon me, I am not questioning you guys, just trying to find out the fact.

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          • #6
            Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

            Originally posted by roks2408 View Post
            OMG !!! I didn't know an aftermarket Air Filter would make such a difference on your machine. Almost all major parts around the engine of his bike got replaced, some twice !!!

            Can it for real that such things can happen. After all Air Filter's job to provide clean air. Pardon me, I am not questioning you guys, just trying to find out the fact.
            Yes, such things do happen! More so when it comes to filters. These after market filters allow in more air than stock filters and essentially you start running with more air in the combustion chamber. Now, with carb bikes, you can upjet to bring in more fuel to complement for extra volume of air going in. FI handles it to some extent by itself. But, even then; what about the extra dust that keeps going in to the engine due to bigger pores (for air inlet) on these filters?
            One solution is to attach a breather alongside a filter. Even with breathers, you can guarantee yourself just 80% of stock engine's life.

            And with just a filter and no upjetting/carb cleaning/adjustments etc, you can start counting days on your fingertips!
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            • #7
              Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

              ^^ Yes. These filters are suitable for European countries where dust is almost non-existence. I don't think they use these whie doing off-road for the very same reasons!
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              • #8
                Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                K&N filter with wrong grade oil from the start, I'm not surprised.

                You certainly shouldn't have used the oil which was meant for platina.
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                  Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                  Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                  I fully agree with @rx100.7050.

                  You spelled doom for your bike with K&N. And you did 137 kmph on a P180?
                  Leave aside expert mechanics/professionals, these aftermarket filters are not at all suitable for our puny bikes.

                  If you wish to keep the bike further, I'd advice you a full engine rebuild and a proper run in later (rather than doing the same in stages). Stay stock!
                  I agree with him bro.. I have myself touched 138 on my Pulsar 180 UG 4 same model as his. and 125 in triple riding with a pillion(80 kgs) and a kid(30 kgs)

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                    Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                    Originally posted by Night_Shade View Post
                    I agree with him bro.. I have myself touched 138 on my Pulsar 180 UG 4 same model as his. and 125 in triple riding with a pillion(80 kgs) and a kid(30 kgs)
                    You were riding triple? Not only is that dangerous, but illegal too.
                    Anyways, I knew Pulsars have a faulty speedo. I assumed that they have an error of 5-8 kmph, but nope, its actually in percentage! Maybe >10%.
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

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                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • #11
                      Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      You were riding triple? Not only is that dangerous, but illegal too.
                      Yep triple riding for 5 days.. 1800 kms.. all around karnataka

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                      • #12
                        Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                        so far, ive used castrol power 1 and petronas sprinta 4t 5000 whenever ive got the engine oil changed outside the showroom. the showroom guys use some bajaj oil which they fill out of tanks. they also add some additive with the oil. is it allright if i get the engine oil provided by bajaj only? and how often should i replace it?
                        how many kms do the clutch plates, cam chains last in a p180 ? the showroom people claim that these parts undergo regular wear and tear. and also when i removed k&n and installed the stock filter, the white smoke stopped instantaneously. it was completely normal after that (for a few days).

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                        and one more problem which haunts me- frequent punctures! i was provided with irc tyres and not the regular mrf. it was bald at just 10k and it was prone to very frequent punctures(about one every week! )
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                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        I fully agree with @rx100.7050.

                        You spelled doom for your bike with K&N. And you did 137 kmph on a P180?
                        Leave aside expert mechanics/professionals, these aftermarket filters are not at all suitable for our puny bikes.

                        If you wish to keep the bike further, I'd advice you a full engine rebuild and a proper run in later (rather than doing the same in stages). Stay stock!





                        137, the light in the tachometer was blinking mad. @10000 rpms + .

                        how much would a full engine rebuild cost? will it involve replacing parts inside the engine?

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                        • #13
                          Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                          one more problem associated with my pulsar ( or probably with all pulsars ) is that the stickers and logos get nicked away quite often, the bajaj logo on the tip of visor especially. ive tried sticking it with fevistick. but vandals nick them always! is there a solution to ths problem? some super glue perhaps ?

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                            Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                            Originally posted by shreyakms View Post
                            one more problem associated with my pulsar ( or probably with all pulsars ) is that the stickers and logos get nicked away quite often, the bajaj logo on the tip of visor especially. ive tried sticking it with fevistick. but vandals nick them always! is there a solution to ths problem? some super glue perhaps ?
                            You fill 10w40 in your bike, are you sure that is the recommended grade? What does the manual say?
                            In case of a rebuild, engine components would be changed, so yes it has to be opened. Clutch plates can last as long as 1L kms or as less as 10k kms. Depends upon the riding style.
                            You can't stop vandalism, so just forget it.
                            Regarding tires, get a hard compound TL tire and enjoy. The ones you have are soft compound and hence puncture prone. Ensure proper air pressure at all time. Check the rim for bends.
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                              Re: pulsar 180 woes and 2 year report

                              the manual recommends only bajaj dts-i 10000 oil - grade: SAE 20w50 API 'SL' or JASO 'MA' (i have no idea what all these mean) . the manual recommends a top-up frequency of 5000kms and replacement frequency of 10000 km! will an engine oil last that long? and also when i replaced the clutch plates for the 1st time, the clutch lever was very hard. could a wrong adjustment like that result in damaged clutch plates ? and can a longer clutch cam increase the longevity of the clutch plates? one of my friends who'd used a slightly longer clutch cam reported smoother gear shifts in his p180 . is this possible? the same friend i mentioned has installed k&n air-filter , uses 10w40 oil always. he's done 30k kms so far without much problems.

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                              is it posible to sraighten a rim bend or do i have to change the wheel itself? i think mine has a slight rim bend. have had it ever since i bought my bike probably. because on the day i got my bike i went upto a 100kmph just to test and the rear wheel started wobbling .
                              i suspect ive been given a defective bike from the start

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                              im unhappy with the headlight of my p180, its very dim. would replacing the 35w bulb with the 55w bulb of 220s help ? when i asked in the showroom, they said it would make it dimmer ! could anyone enlighten me on this ? because p220 and p180 have the same battery (12v 9ah) . and the extra current that will be drawn by the 55w bulb can be taken care by the tolerance of the circuitry right?

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