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  • Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

    Dear fellows,

    First of all a big thanks to all xbhpians to help me while buying my Pulsar 150 with tons of existing knowledge.

    I met with an accident in January. That took me to a bed rest for approx 3 months. Now I am allowed to move and now is the time to take care of the bike. It was standing idle @ home for two months approx before the accident. and for 5 months approx after 5 months. Today I took my bike to the mechanic. I got original mask fairing and front mudguard installed as they were shattered. Self was not working and i was told that this is battery problem. I went to exide and they checked the battery with a meter or something ( I am not good with that stuff) and told me to replace the battery. I purchased new one for 1300 bux and replacement of my old battery. Now my queries are as listed below:
    1. I was told that the charger of my bike has gone and i need to change it ASAP otherwise battery will not last long.
    2. I was also told that i need to replace that round small bottle shaped thing placed just near the battery. However, after making a direct connection in a box placed just below that bottle I was informed that the bottle is fine and no need to replace.
    3. There is also some strange noise like khin khin khin khin coming from front side of engine near break lever. I was told by a friend that the clutch plate is gone. I am not good in that stuff and don't know exactly what to do.

    So friends, here is the problem. Please some one put some light on this so that I could get a fair idea.

    Thanks for the help.

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    Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

    Query Approved

    First and foremost i hope you are well and in a condition to ride now.

    How many km has your bike done? Clutch plates don't get spoilt in an accident nor do the electricals. The battery might have got drained because it was parked for a long time.

    Give some more information about your bike, age, mileage, service history etc.
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    • #3
      Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
      Query Approved

      First and foremost i hope you are well and in a condition to ride now.

      How many km has your bike done? Clutch plates don't get spoilt in an accident nor do the electricals. The battery might have got drained because it was parked for a long time.

      Give some more information about your bike, age, mileage, service history etc.
      Thanks The Monk for quick reply. Yes I am fine now and riding happily.

      The bike has done 25000 kms approx in three years span. Service interval is 2500 kms avg. I never checked mileage specifically but on an average it is ranging from 35-42 depending on condition like traffic, road condition, etc.

      I don't ride the bike daily as I reside in my office campus itself. I ride for fun and to fulfill the instinct. I had done 500 - 600 kms several times in a day. Also I love to accelerate the bike up to 104 kms/ph while I am on highways occasionally.

      Is there anything else in particular I should mention? Thanks again for the help.

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      • #4
        Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

        Hope you are doing well and fit..

        1. The Charger/rectifier/stator plate can't go bad just by keeping the bike idle for a long time. However, there are possibilities for it to go kaput before you left it idle.
        2. Well, the small bottle like thing you are talking about looks like the fuse to me.. that won't require replacement unless the small filament inside it is cut off.
        3. Please get the engine oil changed and see if the noise persists.. when did you change the engine oil? they tend to go bad if the bike hasn't been used for a long time. Get the Oil filter changed when you change the engine oil.. get the air filters and spark plugs checked.. Is it possible for you to upload a video of the sound being made to make it clear for us to identify?

        Please ride safe and wear safety gears especially helmet at all times.

        Cheers,
        Reneav
        Splendor - 2k to 2006
        Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
        P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
        Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
        ZMR - 2010 to Forever
        RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
        Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
        RayZ - 2015 til now
        Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


        Delhi to Narkanda
        Delhi to Coimbatore
        Delhi to Nepal

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        • #5
          Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
          Hope you are doing well and fit..

          1. The Charger/rectifier/stator plate can't go bad just by keeping the bike idle for a long time. However, there are possibilities for it to go kaput before you left it idle.
          2. Well, the small bottle like thing you are talking about looks like the fuse to me.. that won't require replacement unless the small filament inside it is cut off.
          3. Please get the engine oil changed and see if the noise persists.. when did you change the engine oil? they tend to go bad if the bike hasn't been used for a long time. Get the Oil filter changed when you change the engine oil.. get the air filters and spark plugs checked.. Is it possible for you to upload a video of the sound being made to make it clear for us to identify?

          Please ride safe and wear safety gears especially helmet at all times.

          Cheers,
          Reneav

          Thanks for reply. I got my bike serviced yesterday. Engine Oil changed. Air filter cleaned. Spark plug is doing fine. There is no problem in electrical after service and battery change. However the person at exide said that the charger should get changed. I will try to upload the sound video in evening after office. I rode the bike for 200 kms approx after idle parking and before service and oil change.

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          • #6
            Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

            Originally posted by sudhakar229 View Post
            Thanks for reply. I got my bike serviced yesterday. Engine Oil changed. Air filter cleaned. Spark plug is doing fine. There is no problem in electrical after service and battery change. However the person at exide said that the charger should get changed. I will try to upload the sound video in evening after office. I rode the bike for 200 kms approx after idle parking and before service and oil change.
            How long does the sound last? please do try and upload the video Don't go by what the exide guy says. try to get it checked from a mechanic.. if you have the multimeter to test the battery, we can guide you to check it yourself..
            Splendor - 2k to 2006
            Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
            P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
            Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
            ZMR - 2010 to Forever
            RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
            Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
            RayZ - 2015 til now
            Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


            Delhi to Narkanda
            Delhi to Coimbatore
            Delhi to Nepal

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            • #7
              Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

              Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
              How long does the sound last? please do try and upload the video Don't go by what the exide guy says. try to get it checked from a mechanic.. if you have the multimeter to test the battery, we can guide you to check it yourself..
              Well I don't have the multi meter but I can get it checked by our in house electrician we have in office. Please guide me with the procedure. I guess the sound is more at starting and it comes continued.

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              • #8
                Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                Originally posted by sudhakar229 View Post
                Well I don't have the multi meter but I can get it checked by our in house electrician we have in office. Please guide me with the procedure. I guess the sound is more at starting and it comes continued.
                Well I am not an expert with Pulsars but for my ZMR, when the stator plate went kaput, I was advised to do as in the below link..



                it might be helpful. Not sure if the readings will be the same as in ZMR for pulsars
                [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION], [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] [MENTION=11210]ravi@17bhp[/MENTION] have better knowledge than me when it comes to electricals so mentioning them here..
                Splendor - 2k to 2006
                Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                RayZ - 2015 til now
                Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                Delhi to Narkanda
                Delhi to Coimbatore
                Delhi to Nepal

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                • #9
                  Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                  Thanks Dear, Will go through the link. As you said [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir, Asibun, [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]sharan, [MENTION=11210]ravi@17bhp[/MENTION] are the experts, I am waiting for their precious help. Is it good if i get the charger thing checked with some other MISTRI? Can some one plz suggest me a better MISTRI for pulsar in lucknow?

                  One thing I would like to add that I am more concerned about clutch plate problem. If I have to replace it, how much it will cost? Can I install it by myself?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                    Originally posted by sudhakar229 View Post
                    Thanks Dear, Will go through the link. As you said @psr sir, Asibun, @Divyasharan, @ravi@17bhp are the experts, I am waiting for their precious help. Is it good if i get the charger thing checked with some other MISTRI? Can some one plz suggest me a better MISTRI for pulsar in lucknow?

                    One thing I would like to add that I am more concerned about clutch plate problem. If I have to replace it, how much it will cost? Can I install it by myself?
                    1. Battery drain concerns.

                    Stuff needed: Multimeter. (borrow one from an electrician if needed)

                    Check the accuracy of the multimeter first. Plug in both terminals of the multimeter into their respective terminals and shot the outer ends of both terminals together. Resistance should be zero, else keep note of the value on the display and use it later while calculating Voltage as per Ohm's law.

                    Now, measure the potential difference across battery terminals:
                    a. With the ignition on (not cranked, just switch at ON)
                    b. With the bike on and idling.
                    c. With the bike on and revved upto 3000-4000 rpm.
                    d. With the bike on and headlamps switched on.

                    Get back with the Voltage for above scenarios.

                    2. Clutch plates issue.

                    Does the bike heat up in traffic abnormally? Is the pick up reduced? Has top speed reduced?
                    Does the rpm increase but not speed?

                    P.S - Do not attempt any gearbox/engine/clutch related DIY without prior experience/expert guidance.
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • #11
                      Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                      Originally posted by sudhakar229 View Post
                      One thing I would like to add that I am more concerned about clutch plate problem. If I have to replace it, how much it will cost? Can I install it by myself?
                      It might at max cost you 1500/- saying this as the Hunk's Clutch plates cost me 1200.. and it isn't easy to install it yourself unless you have the proper tools which only mechanics have
                      [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] as always, thanks for your inputs
                      Splendor - 2k to 2006
                      Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                      P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                      Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                      ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                      RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                      Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                      RayZ - 2015 til now
                      Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                      Delhi to Narkanda
                      Delhi to Coimbatore
                      Delhi to Nepal

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                      • #12
                        Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                        It might at max cost you 1500/- saying this as the Hunk's Clutch plates cost me 1200.. and it isn't easy to install it yourself unless you have the proper tools which only mechanics have
                        @Divya Sharan as always, thanks for your inputs
                        AFAIK, P150's clutch + pressure plates cost ~650 to 800 rupees. (I may be wrong here)
                        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • #13
                          Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                          1. Battery drain concerns.

                          Stuff needed: Multimeter. (borrow one from an electrician if needed)

                          Check the accuracy of the multimeter first. Plug in both terminals of the multimeter into their respective terminals and shot the outer ends of both terminals together. Resistance should be zero, else keep note of the value on the display and use it later while calculating Voltage as per Ohm's law.

                          Now, measure the potential difference across battery terminals:
                          a. With the ignition on (not cranked, just switch at ON)
                          b. With the bike on and idling.
                          c. With the bike on and revved upto 3000-4000 rpm.
                          d. With the bike on and headlamps switched on.

                          Get back with the Voltage for above scenarios.

                          2. Clutch plates issue.

                          Does the bike heat up in traffic abnormally? Is the pick up reduced? Has top speed reduced?
                          Does the rpm increase but not speed?

                          P.S - Do not attempt any gearbox/engine/clutch related DIY without prior experience/expert guidance.

                          Thanks sir for your valuable response.

                          I will not try to install clutch-plates

                          I will come with battery figures as soon as possible.

                          Yes, I can feel extra heat and reduced power/pick-up, I told the person servicing the bike about low pick-up but I don't think he was smart enough to figure it out. I had not checked the top speed after servicing as i thought it may damage the clutch-plate/engine if there is any problem already is there.

                          P.S. I also feel some burning smell sometimes.
                          Last edited by sudhakar229; 07-25-2014, 03:37 PM. Reason: More Info

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                          • #14
                            Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                            Originally posted by sudhakar229 View Post
                            P.S. I also feel some burning smell sometimes.
                            Then your friend may be right about damaged clutch plates. Ride your bike for 10 odd kms and please post your spark plug's pictures (the upper ceramic portion) from 4-5 angles. Do this before installing new clutch plates.
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                            • #15
                              Re: Problems arising after breakdown. Please help

                              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                              Then your friend may be right about damaged clutch plates. Ride your bike for 10 odd kms and please post your spark plug's pictures (the upper ceramic portion) from 4-5 angles. Do this before installing new clutch plates.

                              I will do post pictures in evening. Is it ok to ride bike with bad clutch plates? Do I need to remove spark plugs or I can take pictures while they are installed?

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