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**The Monk** · 11-07-2014, 12:44 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

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**sunilg** · 11-07-2014, 01:57 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

while people suggest the alternative light source, a couple of pointers from my side which might come handy while riding in fog.

1. Never ever ride with your high beam on in fog. The water droplets reflect the light back to the rider, which makes visibility even poorer. Always keep your low beam on, trying to focus on the road markings to guide you.
2. It is good if you can fit an additional light to your bike so that you can see others on the road. It is equally important to make sure that you are visible to other people. So do get a few patches of high visibility reflective stickers on your bike/riding jacket/helmet ,etc. (preferably red/yellow color) to make yourself 'more visible' for others.
3. See if you can do this little modification in your bike which can make both the turn indicators blink simultaneously like hazard light in cars. A small modification but very helpful when riding in low visibility conditions.
4. There are these LED blinkers available that are primarily used by cyclists. these are battery operated & can be fitted easily on the bikes as well.
5. Lastly, do go through this thread http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...g-hid-etc.html
Also: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/do-yours...g-diagram.html

You might already be aware of these things mentioned above, but should help for newbies who are reading this thread

Cheers!

**sandeepcf** · 11-07-2014, 04:09 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

Originally posted by a_poor_blind_kid View Post

The NS has limited area on the handle & leg guards but I guess some kind of fitment that can light up the road even a little bit in fogs would really help. Was wondering if there are LED lights or torches with their own battery or power source that I could fix onto the bike so that I have an emergency "fog light" in case of sudden changes in riding conditions and at the same time I wouldn't have to worry about any strain on the bike's battery.

NS produces very very good amount of current. we did Ammeter test in my friend's NS and with 100/90 headlight the needle balanced at 2K RPM. So you don't have to worry about battery draining at all.
Yes it is very difficult to add an aux light easily to NS because of it's design.
The best you can do is installing a 100/90 bulb with relay. The reflector supports 100/90 very well.
If you have any ideas for aux lights, please do share ..

**backlash4u** · 11-07-2014, 06:16 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

Even i am thinking about getting some sort of auxiliary light setup on my 390 duke. I dont want to go with an hid setup. Or replace the stock setup with projectors . Any ideas? I saw a pair of auxiliary lights on my friends triumph . Think i should get myself something like that.

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**princesirohi** · 11-07-2014, 07:18 PM

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There are a lot of auxillary LED and halogen lights available.

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**a_poor_blind_kid** · 11-08-2014, 08:59 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

Purchased an LED torch with a clamp to hold it in place on the bike handle. Planning on fixing it on the leg guard on my NS as the handle has some serious lack of space. Haven't received it yet but will post an update / review as soon as I do.

Am not comfortable messing with the wiring / battery of the bike so am trying alternatives. Any suggestions or thoughts are welcome

Below is the torch that I picked up. Saw reviews of similar torches (240 lumens) by folks who have used it on their cycles & it seems to do the job. Let's see...

Wholesale Product Snapshot Product name is 240 lumen Q5 Cycling Bike Bicycle LED Front HEAD LIGHT Torch larmBrand New

**adityabhelke** · 11-25-2014, 08:05 PM

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If you are serious about touring in low light the invest in a proper LED Auxiliary lights. Advantages of LED is low power draw and more output compared to standard halogen or HID. Also package size and dimensions can be very compact. Although cost increases with increase in power and compactness.

LED aux are available from 5 Watt and upwards. 5W is just good as a DRL (Day time Running Lamp), and light is hardly noticeable at night.
For good light output at least 20W Led will be needed. 50W Led is ideal as most modern bikes make that much spare power.
Local markets in big cities are flooded with such low cost and low power LED setups. Any aux light you like, so test it at night to be sure of the intensity.

Also, for fog, there is no other solution than Yellow light halogen. Led or even hid will be useless in fog conditions. A simple 100/110W halogen will be a better fix, but current draw will be almost double, so slightly risky.

100/110W halogen lamps are a straight swap on the KTM Duke 200, 390 without relay etc. Not sure if Pulsar 200 generator can handle the double power draw.

Wiring an LED setup is also just as easy as a regular lamp. Ideally a relay harness (cut out) must be used with a separate fuse and switch.
On a Pulsar NS (like on any bike), there are some places where aux lights can be setup by making low cost but sturdy brackets - just need to figure a strong point on the chassis or even the handlebars.

We make and sell such a relay harness and also 50W LED aux light (35W + 15W pair) on our website RedLinePlus.in Web Store - RedLinePlus.in Web Shop
It might seem a bit expensive to some , but the lights are very very bright- Sorry if you felt this is advertising, but just trying to help.

Happy touring!

**krishna77** · 11-25-2014, 10:43 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

Very informative thread!

**krishna77** · 12-07-2014, 10:32 AM

Auxiliary LED light with independent power source.

Hi all.

I have a query. I have a Yamaha SS125(19K km.s). Almost everything is fine except the stock headlights. Although they are adequate for city riding, I somewhat feel they are not adequate for highway/village rides. So, I'm thinking of a budget auxiliary LED light with independent power source. Projection range of 80-100 feet would be sufficient. I need to use the light(s) whenever I visit the interiors of West Bengal(I ride a lot by commuter standards).
I have read several posts/threads regarding bike lighting. But, almost all of them addresses the issue of lighting while fiddling with the electrical of the bike. I don't want to do that. My requirement is to put the light on place(maybe on places like the crash-guard) when required and put off the same when not required. Also, I want an independent power source because I don't want to overburden the stock battery. The light can serve other purposes when not used with the bike as well.
Please give inputs.

Thanks.

**krishna77** · 12-08-2014, 07:15 PM

Re: Auxiliary LED light with independent power source.

Experienced members please advice.

**Jagzxbhp** · 12-08-2014, 09:51 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

I think Led lights with a transformer/diodes that can handle the rpm changes (power drawn from engine ) can do the job. Transformer is for AC bikes and diodes for DC. Just my thought, but possible if u understand what I'm trying to say, can be done that way without touching battery.

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**krishna77** · 12-08-2014, 10:12 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

Thanks for the reply. But again, I need to fiddle with the engine and electrical if I'm not wrong. I need to modify the transformer since it's a AC set-up.

**Jagzxbhp** · 12-08-2014, 10:26 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

I'm saying to use a small transformer(external) for the led lights and draw current from main engine supply output.

Tape recorder type transformer but small size like a shape of an erasor. avails in TV, repair shops can be attached in the light itself.

You do have to alter something bro. Or else buy standard led fog lights and stick a 20v battery with an appropriate diode and stick it together with the light. Approx 2-3 hours it'll light up the road. Buy rechargeable batteries and a charger for short rides and regular use

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**sandeepcf** · 12-08-2014, 11:31 PM

Re: Fog lights with alternative / own power source

Originally posted by Jagzxbhp View Post

I'm saying to use a small transformer(external) for the led lights and draw current from main engine supply output.

Tape recorder type transformer but small size like a shape of an erasor. avails in TV, repair shops can be attached in the light itself.

So you are saying - draw AC current from alternator and use transformer and diodes to convert it to DC to power the LEDs? Please re-think please.

I think Led lights with a transformer that can handle the rpm changes

- Does that kind of transformer exist?
RR of a motorcycle means Regulator(your transformer idea) Rectifier(your diode idea) - why re-invent the wheel?

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Originally posted by krishna77 View Post

->So, I'm thinking of a budget auxiliary LED light with independent power source.
->Also, I want an independent power source because I don't want to overburden the stock battery.
->The light can serve other purposes when not used with the bike as well.

>What would be the wattage of LED light? 10w, 20w?
>20w will not overburden the battery at all.
>If that is the case, all I can think of is a Torch light.

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