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  • Honda CB Shine Gear problem

    I own Honda CB Shine from last 1 year (Model: Oct 2013, Self, Drum, Alloy).
    I drove it on Bangalore's city roads as well as on highway. I have completed 10600 Km so far.
    I always used Shell-Super petrol to keep the engine out of any contamination and get more mileage.


    I have Gear shift problem with my bike
    Its not comfortable at all. Shift from 1st to 2nd gear is very hard. Driving in traffic requires frequent gear shifts.
    0-5 Km/h --> 1 Gear
    Reached 5-8 Km/h --> Shift to 2 Gear (Pulling little bit more in 1st gear makes engine screaming and bike stalls at the spot)
    Reached 12-15 Km/h --> Shift to 3 Gear
    Reached 25-30 Km/h --> Shift to 4 Gear

    This creates lots of inconvenience while driving in traffic


    If gear is not shifted withing the above specified speed range, it either SLIPS during downshifting or STUCK during up-shifting.
    Also change in gear not happens in one push of pedals. I have to push long way down and shift happens with 2 clicks... Kit...Kit...
    If I am not pushing it hard and leaving the clutch after 1st click..... gear is getting stuck between middle of two position and engine is making weird wwwwhhhhhhhiiiirrrr........... sound. To recover from this situation.. only option is to switch off the engine and put gear to neutral in off condition (by dragging bike to and fro) and then start-over again.

    There are other problems also in bike (vibration, chain noise etc) but this is very serious and makes bike unsafe to drive.
    After so many complaint and fight with dealer, they changed the Gear shaft. But problem still exist.
    I don't want to go back to their service center as they will ruin my bike doing trail & error.

    I heard that gear shift problem is common in Shine but don't know the exact issues. If Honda is aware about this weird problem,
    why they are selling this product.

    If anyone know any Information, workaround or solution regarding this please help me.

  • #2
    Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

    Approved!

    What grade engine oil do you use?

    Sent from my phone. Kindly avoid it while riding.
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    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

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    • #3
      Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      Approved!

      What grade engine oil do you use?

      Sent from my phone. Kindly avoid it while riding.
      For 1 year I used Honda 10W30 engine oil. Engine was very noisy and pickup was poor with this oil.
      So 3 weeks before I switched to Shell hx7 10w40 (semi synthetic) oil. Engine is smooth now and pickup is also improved little bit.
      But gear problem stays as it is .
      Last edited by Tabrez; 11-19-2014, 12:29 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

        Originally posted by Tabrez View Post
        For 1 year I used Honda 10W30 engine oil. Engine was very noisy and pickup was poor with this oil.
        So 3 weeks before I switched to Shell hx7 10w40 (semi synthetic) oil. Engine is smooth now and pickup is also improved little bit.
        But gear problem stays as it is .
        Shell Helix HX7 is a car oil which contains friction busters!
        Use Rimula R4 if you want but drain that HX7 right now.
        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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        • #5
          Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          Shell Helix HX7 is a car oil which contains friction busters!
          Use Rimula R4 if you want but drain that HX7 right now.
          OOPS...
          Sorry... typing mistake... Its Shell Advance AX7 10W40 (Semi synthetic), One level below Shell Advance Ultra 10W40 (Fully synthetic).
          I am planing to try Shell Advance Ultra 10W40 (Fully synthetic)next time.
          Last edited by Tabrez; 11-19-2014, 01:43 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

            Originally posted by Tabrez View Post
            OOPS...
            Sorry... typing mistake... Its Shell Advance AX7 10W40 (Semi synthetic), One level below Shell Advance Ultra 10W40 (Fully synthetic).
            I am planing to try Shell Advance Ultra 10W40 (Fully synthetic)next time.
            Ok, AX7 is good. Are the clutch plates fine? Do you rev a lot?
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • #7
              Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              Ok, AX7 is good. Are the clutch plates fine? Do you rev a lot?
              I am not sure about clutch plates, I never checked them personally. But after my complaints, recently one expert guy at service center opened the gear box and replaced the gear shaft.
              But it didn't helped.
              This problem exists since bike was new and came out of showroom. I was complaining about gear problems to dealer since then. But they ignored.

              I don't rev much also. I drive normally about 17Km in morning (upto 60 Km/hr, rarely sometime upto 80 for 2 min when road is empty) and 17Km in evening in huge traffic (to much gear shifting happens). I treat the bike in decent manner. Only when bike was new, speed limit was not followed (limit to 40Km/hr for 900km). My roommate carelessly start driving it up to 60km/hr whithin 2 days of purchase. Did it matter a lot ?

              Also just for information, I have seen 1 more post reporting exactly same problem at Honda Shine - Gear Sucks....

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              • #8
                Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

                Originally posted by Tabrez View Post
                I own Honda CB Shine from last 1 year (Model: Oct 2013, Self, Drum, Alloy).
                I drove it on Bangalore's city roads as well as on highway. I have completed 10600 Km so far.
                I always used Shell-Super petrol to keep the engine out of any contamination and get more mileage.


                I have Gear shift problem with my bike
                Its not comfortable at all. Shift from 1st to 2nd gear is very hard. Driving in traffic requires frequent gear shifts.
                0-5 Km/h --> 1 Gear
                Reached 5-8 Km/h --> Shift to 2 Gear (Pulling little bit more in 1st gear makes engine screaming and bike stalls at the spot)
                Reached 12-15 Km/h --> Shift to 3 Gear
                Reached 25-30 Km/h --> Shift to 4 Gear

                This creates lots of inconvenience while driving in traffic


                If gear is not shifted withing the above specified speed range, it either SLIPS during downshifting or STUCK during up-shifting.
                Also change in gear not happens in one push of pedals. I have to push long way down and shift happens with 2 clicks... Kit...Kit...
                If I am not pushing it hard and leaving the clutch after 1st click..... gear is getting stuck between middle of two position and engine is making weird wwwwhhhhhhhiiiirrrr........... sound. To recover from this situation.. only option is to switch off the engine and put gear to neutral in off condition (by dragging bike to and fro) and then start-over again.

                There are other problems also in bike (vibration, chain noise etc) but this is very serious and makes bike unsafe to drive.
                After so many complaint and fight with dealer, they changed the Gear shaft. But problem still exist.
                I don't want to go back to their service center as they will ruin my bike doing trail & error.

                I heard that gear shift problem is common in Shine but don't know the exact issues. If Honda is aware about this weird problem,
                why they are selling this product.

                If anyone know any Information, workaround or solution regarding this please help me.

                Honda shine has a short gear ratio, i've also honda shine and i faced the same thing. I mean the mentioned speed u changed the gear, after 35km in 3rd gear u have to shift to 4th. Otherwise u can notice the engine stress. I ride another shine for surety but the same thing exists in other shine..check your clutch plate from a reputed mechanic. you can use also Motul 5100-10W30, i suggest you pls stick to your engine oil grade. U can feel vibration after 55-60. pls share the other issues with your bike so that i can check the same thing...
                Last edited by Subhodip; 11-20-2014, 05:41 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

                  Originally posted by Subhodip View Post
                  Honda shine has a short gear ratio, i've also honda shine and i faced the same thing. I mean the mentioned speed u changed the gear, after 35km in 3rd gear u have to shift to 4th. Otherwise u can notice the engine stress. I ride another shine for surety but the same thing exists in other shine..check your clutch plate from a reputed mechanic. you can use also Motul 5100-10W30, i suggest you pls stick to your engine oil grade. U can feel vibration after 55-60. pls share the other issues with your bike so that i can check the same thing...
                  Please check my shine ownership experience http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ml#post1110218.
                  Is it possible to change the gear ratio of Shine (by changing the front/rear sprocket size or by any other way) ? Have you tried it ?
                  This bike is totally useless for driving in traffic. While I am busy in changing gears, the whole world overtakes me reaches their destinations.

                  Mileage is around 55 Km/hr with Shell-Super petrol, which I think is not bad considering the driving situations.

                  I am done with my shine and going to send it to Mumbai for my younger brother. I think Mumbai is much hotter than Bangalore and 10W40
                  will be good for hot weather.

                  My next bike --> Suzuki Gixxer, going to book next week .
                  Last edited by Tabrez; 11-20-2014, 06:10 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

                    Originally posted by Tabrez View Post
                    Please check my shine ownership experience http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...ml#post1110218.
                    Is it possible to change the gear ratio of Shine (by changing the front/rear sprocket size or by any other way) ? Have you tried it ?
                    This bike is totally useless for driving in traffic. While I am busy in changing gears, the whole world overtakes me reaches their destinations.

                    I am done with my shine and going to send it to Mumbai for my younger brother. I think Mumbai is much hotter than Bangalore and 10W40
                    will be good for hot weather.

                    My next bike --> Suzuki Gixxer, going to book next week .
                    advanced congo. for your new horse...i didn't tried any changes. But according to me it suitable for city ride...highway ride with shine is just like Ha Ha Ha...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

                      Hi Tabrez,

                      I too faced the same problem when i purchased my Honda shine in 2013. Now the problem is resolved and i am getting a mileage of 58-60km per litre in city driving.. Gear shift problem is usually faced by all honda shine users, there will be falseplay when you shift the gears from 3-2 or 2-1. and regarding the other problems you mentioned like chain noise and vibration, its also a common problem which was faced by me. Now coming to the answer

                      1. The false play or gear slipping occurs due to the false adjustment of the spring inside the gear box. I complained about this every time when i go to service centre during the first few months of my purchase, make sure u force them to do it as most of service centers just water wash the bike and say they have done the service.. Now my problem got resolved.
                      2. The vibration feeling that u get is usually when u touch the 50km/hr mark in your speedometer. once you cross that 50km barrier the vibration will automatically reduce, thats how they have designed it to get more economy out of the vehicle.
                      3. If you read the manual, the break in period of the bike is 500km, i suggest you to avoid using honda oil which heats up the engine, breaks down eaily and reduces the mileage. I suggest you using Shell 10W 40 ultra advance costing around Rs.750 which will improve the mileage and reduce engine heat.
                      4. go to a good mechanic who has knowledge on chain slack adjustment..if you drive with pillion make sure you adjust the chain by seating a person at the back..
                      5. If u have crossed 10000 kms , try using iridium spark plug from NGK..it will improve the torque and avoids cold starts.

                      Try following these and u will see the improvement in your engine within a week.

                      Originally posted by Tabrez View Post
                      I own Honda CB Shine from last 1 year (Model: Oct 2013, Self, Drum, Alloy).
                      I drove it on Bangalore\\\'s city roads as well as on highway. I have completed 10600 Km so far.
                      I always used Shell-Super petrol to keep the engine out of any contamination and get more mileage.


                      I have Gear shift problem with my bike
                      Its not comfortable at all. Shift from 1st to 2nd gear is very hard. Driving in traffic requires frequent gear shifts.
                      0-5 Km/h --> 1 Gear
                      Reached 5-8 Km/h --> Shift to 2 Gear (Pulling little bit more in 1st gear makes engine screaming and bike stalls at the spot)
                      Reached 12-15 Km/h --> Shift to 3 Gear
                      Reached 25-30 Km/h --> Shift to 4 Gear

                      This creates lots of inconvenience while driving in traffic


                      If gear is not shifted withing the above specified speed range, it either SLIPS during downshifting or STUCK during up-shifting.
                      Also change in gear not happens in one push of pedals. I have to push long way down and shift happens with 2 clicks... Kit...Kit...
                      If I am not pushing it hard and leaving the clutch after 1st click..... gear is getting stuck between middle of two position and engine is making weird wwwwhhhhhhhiiiirrrr........... sound. To recover from this situation.. only option is to switch off the engine and put gear to neutral in off condition (by dragging bike to and fro) and then start-over again.

                      There are other problems also in bike (vibration, chain noise etc) but this is very serious and makes bike unsafe to drive.
                      After so many complaint and fight with dealer, they changed the Gear shaft. But problem still exist.
                      I don\\\'t want to go back to their service center as they will ruin my bike doing trail & error.

                      I heard that gear shift problem is common in Shine but don\\\'t know the exact issues. If Honda is aware about this weird problem,
                      why they are selling this product.

                      If anyone know any Information, workaround or solution regarding this please help me.
                      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                      Hi Tabrez,

                      I too faced the same problem when i purchased my Honda shine in 2013. Now the problem is resolved and i am getting a mileage of 58-60km per litre in city conditions.. Gear shift problem is usually faced by all honda shine users, there will be falseplay when you shift the gears from 3-2 or 2-1. and regarding the other problems you mentioned like chain noise and vibration, its also a common problem which was faced by me. Now coming to the answer

                      1. The false play or gear slipping occurs due to the false adjustment of the spring inside the gear box. I complained about this every time when i go to service centre during the first few months of my purchase, make sure u force them to do it as most of service centers just water wash the bike and say they have done the service.. Now my problem got resolved.
                      2. The vibration feeling that u get is usually when u touch the 50km/hr mark in your speedometer. once you cross that 50km barrier the vibration will automatically reduce, thats how they have designed it to get more economy out of the vehicle.
                      3. If you read the manual, the break in period of the bike is 500km, after break in period i suggest you to avoid using honda oil which heats up the engine, breaks down easily and reduces the mileage. I suggest you using Shell 10W 40 ultra advance costing around Rs.750 which will improve the mileage and reduce engine heat and last for 3000kms
                      4. go to a good mechanic who has knowledge on chain slack adjustment..if you drive with pillion make sure you adjust the chain by seating a person at the back..
                      5. If u have crossed 10000 kms , try using iridium spark plug from NGK..it will improve the torque and avoids cold starts.

                      Try following these and u will see the improvement in your engine within a week.

                      Originally posted by Tabrez View Post
                      I own Honda CB Shine from last 1 year (Model: Oct 2013, Self, Drum, Alloy).
                      I drove it on Bangalore\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s city roads as well as on highway. I have completed 10600 Km so far.
                      I always used Shell-Super petrol to keep the engine out of any contamination and get more mileage.


                      I have Gear shift problem with my bike
                      Its not comfortable at all. Shift from 1st to 2nd gear is very hard. Driving in traffic requires frequent gear shifts.
                      0-5 Km/h --> 1 Gear
                      Reached 5-8 Km/h --> Shift to 2 Gear (Pulling little bit more in 1st gear makes engine screaming and bike stalls at the spot)
                      Reached 12-15 Km/h --> Shift to 3 Gear
                      Reached 25-30 Km/h --> Shift to 4 Gear

                      This creates lots of inconvenience while driving in traffic


                      If gear is not shifted withing the above specified speed range, it either SLIPS during downshifting or STUCK during up-shifting.
                      Also change in gear not happens in one push of pedals. I have to push long way down and shift happens with 2 clicks... Kit...Kit...
                      If I am not pushing it hard and leaving the clutch after 1st click..... gear is getting stuck between middle of two position and engine is making weird wwwwhhhhhhhiiiirrrr........... sound. To recover from this situation.. only option is to switch off the engine and put gear to neutral in off condition (by dragging bike to and fro) and then start-over again.

                      There are other problems also in bike (vibration, chain noise etc) but this is very serious and makes bike unsafe to drive.
                      After so many complaint and fight with dealer, they changed the Gear shaft. But problem still exist.
                      I don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t want to go back to their service center as they will ruin my bike doing trail & error.

                      I heard that gear shift problem is common in Shine but don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t know the exact issues. If Honda is aware about this weird problem,
                      why they are selling this product.

                      If anyone know any Information, workaround or solution regarding this please help me.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

                        Originally posted by Naganathan View Post
                        1. The false play or gear slipping occurs due to the false adjustment of the spring inside the gear box. I complained about this every time when i go to service centre during the first few months of my purchase, make sure u force them to do it as most of service centers just water wash the bike and say they have done the service.. Now my problem got resolved.
                        Can you please elaborate on this point ? Thanks.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

                          Hello all

                          i have been using honda shine 2012 model, since 4-5 month back it was running in good conditions, as i have been servicing it at honda workshop, but i am getting noise which is earlier not coming, after changing engine oil ( thought it may be solve issue) still problem persist, issue came after when bike was serviced by private mechanic ( he has tuned tensioner coz he told that timing chain is loose and right now tuning will do the job no need of replacement), since that time noise is coming and even though to identify exact problem i have shown it to different mechanic and they told noise of timing chain

                          so please suggest me a best solution for this... as this weird sound is irritating me......


                          expecting an effective solution from experts.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Honda CB Shine Gear problem

                            strange,



                            no reply from any experts !!

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