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    Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

    I bought a second hand Ray Z model 2017 but when the weather is cold the scooter bogs out on takeoff but clears out when riding after 1 min. This usually happens when the weather is cold and damp. Even after riding the whole day and I leave it for a couple of hours after college but when starting it starts fine but when I accelerate it bogs out or has this kinda missing problem. I have taken to service center but they were unable to solve the problem. I know my issue is kinda small but it's bugging the hell out of me. Can you guys help me out? I have change the rollers and ignition coil but nothing has change. The problem still persist. I have tuned the carb but to no avail. Can give me suggestions on what to do?
    Note : This happens only when engine is cold i.e when the scooter has been sitting idle for more than 3 to 4 hours. When it's hot all day the problem doesn't exist. Thank you in advance!
    Last edited by xBhp; 07-17-2019, 11:22 AM.
    Tags: yamaha ray z
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    Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

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      Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

      Anyone please help me out!

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        Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

        Originally posted by Dani52war View Post
        Anyone please help me out!
        Can you check if any dirt, gung is collected at the bottom of the fuel tank near the fuel outlet?

        Once the bike started moving and there is free flow of fuel due to continuous suction from carburetor I guess you are not facing any issue after riding sometime as all dirt scatters, when you park it back for a long time all the floating dirt and gung will comeback and settle down at the exit outlet, choking the line till there is free flow.
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          Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

          Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
          Can you check if any dirt, gung is collected at the bottom of the fuel tank near the fuel outlet?

          Once the bike started moving and there is free flow of fuel due to continuous suction from carburetor I guess you are not facing any issue after riding sometime as all dirt scatters, when you park it back for a long time all the floating dirt and gung will comeback and settle down at the exit outlet, choking the line till there is free flow.
          I have clean the fuel tank but problem still persist. The SVC had check and clean the carburetor. I had bought a new ignition coil and tuned the scooter plus I have done valve adjustment too. The problem seems to arise when the weather is cold,damp , raining etc. During hot temperatures the scooter does have this missing problem. It makes me wonder that it might be electrical problem like maybe the stator or pickup coil.

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            Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

            In my experience your piston/cylinders are about to be worn out. I had similar issues on my bike and it worsened progressively.

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              Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

              Originally posted by EngineAbuser View Post
              In my experience your piston/cylinders are about to be worn out. I had similar issues on my bike and it worsened progressively.
              How did you fix it? So it's probably not an electrical problem because the problem only persist when the weather is cold. That is what I initially thought.

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                Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                Guys any suggestions on what should I do? The scooter has this missing problem only when the scooter is cold. It gets worse when the weather is cold but totally fine when the weather is hot. I would really appreciate it if you guys can me give a solution or give suggestions on what should I do.

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                https://youtu.be/hLbX_I8l4_w this video is just for reference. This is what is happening with my scooter. It starts from a lower rpm when starting that too by kicking ( quite low like 600-800) even when the engine is hot. It has a stalling issue.

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                  Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                  Originally posted by Dani52war View Post
                  Guys any suggestions on what should I do? The scooter has this missing problem only when the scooter is cold. It gets worse when the weather is cold but totally fine when the weather is hot. I would really appreciate it if you guys can me give a solution or give suggestions on what should I do.

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                  https://youtu.be/hLbX_I8l4_w this video is just for reference. This is what is happening with my scooter. It starts from a lower rpm when starting that too by kicking ( quite low like 600-800) even when the engine is hot. It has a stalling issue.
                  I too owned a ray-z back in 2015.. had it for a year or 2. i too had that problem.. as Ray won't even start with a battery and the rectifier would go bad every 2 years. Change the rectifier, install a new battery or get the present one charged, install new spark plug and change engine oil then good to go.. if u use it as it is when it misfires it'll burn down it's piston rings. Hope i helped

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                    Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                    Originally posted by sallubhai786 View Post
                    I too owned a ray-z back in 2015.. had it for a year or 2. i too had that problem.. as Ray won't even start with a battery and the rectifier would go bad every 2 years. Change the rectifier, install a new battery or get the present one charged, install new spark plug and change engine oil then good to go.. if u use it as it is when it misfires it'll burn down it's piston rings. Hope i helped
                    Yeah I'm thinking of changing the rectifier and the cdi. Do you know the price of the rectifier? When you change the rectifier did it solve the missing problem? Anyway thank you for you valuable suggestion....Highly appreciated!

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                      Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                      I don't know if this helps but happens with our brand new Ray Z too, the service says it's normal. Happens with brand new Honda Grazia as well. It seems its a common issue with scooters.

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                        Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                        Originally posted by Dani52war View Post
                        Yeah I'm thinking of changing the rectifier and the cdi. Do you know the price of the rectifier? When you change the rectifier did it solve the missing problem? Anyway thank you for you valuable suggestion....Highly appreciated!
                        Get the rectifier cdi checked at a electrical mechanic shop or test it yourself using a volt meter.. have the air filter also inspected and also check the carb for any blockage or leakage get it retuned if spark plug color are in black soot. After retuning it should be light grey..

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                          Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                          Originally posted by sallubhai786 View Post
                          Get the rectifier cdi checked at a electrical mechanic shop or test it yourself using a volt meter.. have the air filter also inspected and also check the carb for any blockage or leakage get it retuned if spark plug color are in black soot. After retuning it should be light grey..
                          Okay I will buy a new rectifier and get the cdi check.

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                            Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                            Originally posted by Mr.Noodles View Post
                            I don't know if this helps but happens with our brand new Ray Z too, the service says it's normal. Happens with brand new Honda Grazia as well. It seems its a common issue with scooters.

                            I am also facing same issue with my brand new Yamaha Ray Z(bought July 2019) - Whenever I start vehicle after a long stop (say 7 hours), vehicle struggle to move, especially when I start in the morning. After riding around 1 km all good.

                            Here service guys told me first it is carburettor issue and cleaned it, it did not fix the issue.
                            I went again to the showroom to complain, he told me it is normal, so I tested the same on 3 other brand new scooters in the showroom (Alpha, Ray Z and Ray ZR)
                            In that first one(Alpha) I found the same issue.
                            Second one did not have the issue(Ray Z) - which he told me that they did ride that scooter in the morning
                            Third one showed same issue very slightly

                            Can anyone tell if this is a serious issue and service centre guys just lying over it?

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                            Originally posted by Dani52war View Post
                            Okay I will buy a new rectifier and get the cdi check.

                            Let us know if you find the solution, waiting for it.

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                              Re: Yamaha Ray Z missing problem only when cold! Help me out guys

                              Warm it up in the morning and tuning should be as everyday in the morning to start on one kick

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