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  • Help with the Pulsar Please ( P220 Dtsi MOD )

    Hello Guys,

    i bought the Fastest Indian about a month ago, its nearly 1100 km now, 1st servicing done..... i have not been following the break in rules and all, I am least interested in dat... i dont care much about mileage, or warranty...i had pushed it to 148kmph (speedo) with still a little juice left (had to break cause of a stooopid truck).... I even tested my 0-100 timing and it came out to be 9.xx secs !!!!!!!!! well even i was shocked... but i must add here dat i dint use any V-box n all... it was a very informal way...

    i used my cell phone for dat.... i used my microphone.... placed it near my collar button, under a jacket ( 2 avoid wind noises) and started recording audio... i took position, and said "start" n twisted the throttle hard... i shouted "Stop" loudly AS SOON AS I HIT 100kmph... or more, cause you know sumtimes the speedo directly showed 102 after 96.... and the average timing came out to be under 10 secs... ie.. 9.XX secs, you may call it incorrect but human reflexes are fast enough and there is negligible error... might b a max of 0.1sec difference... the only thing left now is the speedo error... but even on speedo 0-100 under 10 secs is reely good.. (i hav lately installed K&N 1100, n upjetted but der wasnt much difference without it )... i would wana add that i weigh only 56kgs !!!...

    I am very happy with all this but still i wana push it to its limits... i dont care much about warranty... i have to use this bike for a year or so... den I wil be buying a new one (a 600cc probably, wanted to buy a 400cc now but i just turned 18 and this is my 1st bike) ... so no LOOOONG term reliability factor also... (but i don wan much hassel in this 1 year)

    ===========================
    so with nothing much to fear about I am all set to modify the Fastest to make it EVEN Faster !!!

    i need suggestions.... Past Experiences.... Dos n Don'ts --- etc etc

    i have a budget of roughly 25k but if its absolutely necessary i can push it to 35k...

    what i have in my mind is :

    1> high lift piper cams (any suggestions which profile for d 220 ?)--- shud i go for totally new cams or work on d present 1 to make it better ? (n how is that done ? hehehe)
    2> Porting n Polishing cylinder Head
    3> Increasing Valve size (if there is a possibility)
    4> tuned free flow exhausts (keeping d ExhausTEC, as it is)

    i already have K&N with upjetting.

    i have read about boring the engines to higher Cubic Capacity... like pulsar 180cc to 220cc.... was wondering if i cud make mine a 250 or may b 270 cc... but don no much bout dis... where wud i get d proper piston n all ? Plz throw some light on dis...

    I am more interested in acceleration than top speed but m not interested in sprocketing n all... don wana sacrifice one for d other.

    what sort of a Performance Gain should i expect if i do all these ???(0-100 timings, top speed, BHP ) n its side effects ?

    what are your suggestions ? what should i go for ? in what sequence ? what shud i avoid ? what to expect ? any past experience ?

    BTW i am in PUNE, any nice reliable place here to get these things done ??

    will be waiting,

    Thanks

  • #2
    Query Moved and Approved.
    :)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by charles.chip View Post
      Hello Guys,

      i bought the Fastest Indian about a month ago, its nearly 1100 km now, 1st servicing done..... i have not been following the break in rules and all, I am least interested in dat... i dont care much about mileage, or warranty...i had pushed it to 148kmph (speedo) with still a little juice left (had to break cause of a stooopid truck).... I even tested my 0-100 timing and it came out to be 9.xx secs !!!!!!!!! well even i was shocked... but i must add here dat i dint use any V-box n all... it was a very informal way...

      i used my cell phone for dat.... i used my microphone.... placed it near my collar button, under a jacket ( 2 avoid wind noises) and started recording audio... i took position, and said "start" n twisted the throttle hard... i shouted "Stop" loudly AS SOON AS I HIT 100kmph... or more, cause you know sumtimes the speedo directly showed 102 after 96.... and the average timing came out to be under 10 secs... ie.. 9.XX secs, you may call it incorrect but human reflexes are fast enough and there is negligible error... might b a max of 0.1sec difference... the only thing left now is the speedo error... but even on speedo 0-100 under 10 secs is reely good.. (i hav lately installed K&N 1100, n upjetted but der wasnt much difference without it )... i would wana add that i weigh only 56kgs !!!...

      I am very happy with all this but still i wana push it to its limits... i dont care much about warranty... i have to use this bike for a year or so... den I wil be buying a new one (a 600cc probably, wanted to buy a 400cc now but i just turned 18 and this is my 1st bike) ... so no LOOOONG term reliability factor also... (but i don wan much hassel in this 1 year)

      ===========================
      so with nothing much to fear about I am all set to modify the Fastest to make it EVEN Faster !!!

      i need suggestions.... Past Experiences.... Dos n Don'ts --- etc etc

      i have a budget of roughly 25k but if its absolutely necessary i can push it to 35k...

      what i have in my mind is :

      1> high lift piper cams (any suggestions which profile for d 220 ?)--- shud i go for totally new cams or work on d present 1 to make it better ? (n how is that done ? hehehe)
      2> Porting n Polishing cylinder Head
      3> Increasing Valve size (if there is a possibility)
      4> tuned free flow exhausts (keeping d ExhausTEC, as it is)

      i already have K&N with upjetting.

      i have read about boring the engines to higher Cubic Capacity... like pulsar 180cc to 220cc.... was wondering if i cud make mine a 250 or may b 270 cc... but don no much bout dis... where wud i get d proper piston n all ? Plz throw some light on dis...

      I am more interested in acceleration than top speed but m not interested in sprocketing n all... don wana sacrifice one for d other.

      what sort of a Performance Gain should i expect if i do all these ???(0-100 timings, top speed, BHP ) n its side effects ?

      what are your suggestions ? what should i go for ? in what sequence ? what shud i avoid ? what to expect ? any past experience ?

      BTW i am in PUNE, any nice reliable place here to get these things done ??

      will be waiting,

      Thanks


      In pune there is a mechanic called Anwar think he does all this...........
      His workshop is bang opposite the old pyramids on senapati bapat road

      He had also done my friends Pulsar 180 for some event (Think castrol)
      In which he came second u can go there directly and get it done
      He also does servicing and all
      Go and meet him he might be the one to help youu

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      • #4
        Hey can ya gimme his phone numbr ?

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        • #5
          hey charles... i would like 2 install k and n 1100 n my 220 dtsi !! ... but should i modify to upjet ?? btw what dya mean by upjettn

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          • #6
            @ shrivastav

            There are two jets in the carb... Pilot jet and main jet... They are like screws with holes in them... Larger the hole, higher is the jet number.. Eg 115, 120, 125... Etc
            Feul passes through these passage... (correct me if i am wrong people)
            When we install K&N we allow more air 2 flow... And we upjet to allow more fuel into d carb... As d ratio has to be maintained... 14.7 :1 for economy and 12.5 :1 for max power.
            Upjeting should cost u around Rs 150. Here in india pilot jets are hard to find... So ppl mainly change main jet... Main jet comes into play frm 2/4th of the throttle position.
            With K&N 1100, mine worked well wid 135.

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            • #7
              hey wats the difference in performance wen u installed rc1100 in p220(fatest indian)..lik top speed,,mileage,,0-60 and 0-100...plz reply
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              • #8
                hey guys where can i get it down in chennai ?????

                any specific place ?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by charles.chip View Post
                  Hey can ya gimme his phone numbr ?
                  Sorry for the late reply...............
                  I dont have the no the frnd of myne who goes there
                  Is also not in pune
                  Its bang opposite Pyramids you will find it
                  There is only one mechanic

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                  • #10
                    hey i also bought a pulsar 220dtsi last month...
                    i too was thinking to do something to gain the bhp of the bike... but till now i have only reached 125km/hr on the 4th gear at max rpm..
                    i hav joined the xbhp team in chandigarh and they told me to drive the bike really fast on the highways so to open its engine fully then add an k and n filter to increase the performance...
                    but my bike is just giving an average of 36...
                    what should i do to increase its mileage and to run it on top speeds like the person above said(148km/hr)
                    plZzz rEplY....

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                    • #11
                      Dude, 125 kmph in 4th is very good... Why dint you take it to the 5th gear ? M sure u wud hav touched ATLEAST 140kmph !!

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                      • #12
                        i did 121 in 4th, then upshifted to 5th, it went up till 128.. then it hit reserve Havent got a chance to go faster since..
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                        • #13
                          @charles.chip

                          Congrats on the new Bike. You seem to be really enjoying it. Nothing can feel better than not botherin about running in the engine well, long term reliability, etc, i for some reason enjoy the botheration .

                          Spicing up a beast sounds good, and I am sure you will achieve that in due time, how about your riding gear? I am sure, you have invested in proper safety gear.

                          Keep us posted about the works on your bike. All the best.
                          **MaSh**

                          **Work to Ride and Ride to Work**

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                          • #14
                            The Bike has been handed over to one of the best hands in this business....
                            We are doing some MAJOR MODS !! a lot more than mentioned... Trust me... Its going to be hell of a machine !!!!! 1st phase of the mods will get over by the 12th of october(hopefully).... After that within a week we would recieve some crucial parts from U.K, and then the second phase of modification would start....
                            i have been asked to keep my mouth shut about this till the work is complete. And i have been told not to disclose what all we are doing to the bike. As told to me "this bike would challange a stock kawasaki ninja 250 if not beat it !!!!"
                            U can paint d rest of d picture now on ur own...
                            Last edited by charles.chip; 10-16-2009, 01:21 AM.

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                            • #15
                              ^Will the Bike still be Air-Cooled?
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