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  • #16
    Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
    what about keeping the engine cool by spraying(throwing) water on it at every stop... may be 2-3 mugs of water... is it good to try
    what...!!!!!.... never ever do this bro....
    ok you are making Roti on tava you filled a cup and throw it on the tava what will happen the tava will become cool but will you be able to make another Roti that easily what you did it on hot tava....ask your self.i don't understand why you are so worried related to heat now i am feeling hot....change you engine oil to synthetic castrol power 1 racing will cost you 700 Rs but worth it i am using it...for past 3000 km...
    Last edited by zayn; 09-27-2009, 12:42 AM.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by zayn View Post
      what...!!!!!.... never ever do this bro....
      ok you are making Roti on tava you filled a cup and throw it on the tava what will happen the tava will become cool but will you be able to make another Roti that easily what you did it on hot tava....ask your self.i don't understand why you are so worried related to heat now i am feeling hot....change you engine oil to synthetic castrol power 1 racing will cost you 700 Rs but worth it i am using it...for past 3000 km...
      BTW which bike you own.....
      oh yes did you mean that sudden changes in tempreature will adhversly affect bike.
      i am worried as my bike has only clocked 2000kms and i did'nr want to screw it by any means..

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      • #18
        Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
        but i thought that running aircooled bikes for more than 1-2hrs continously causes engine to heat, specially in indian climatic regions..
        i am looking forward to go for shell fully synthetic oil on my 2nd service due in 4-5 days.. any comments on it
        I dont know about a two wheeler oil from Shell man! which one are you talking about?

        Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
        Me and my friend did 11,000Km trip.. on Pulsar 180 UG3.. and for us it has been the most reliable bike made on earth.. ever!

        If you are lucky, nothing will happen.. not even a puncture. even on worst of roads!

        Some pointers though

        (1) Switch to Motul 300V - It makes a hell lot of difference.
        (2) The "Sweet Spot" of 180 is 90Kmph, you can maintain that.. without any worries.
        (3) Take breaks of at least 15 mins after 2 hours of riding, engine does gets stress out in high ambient temperature, especially in afternoon.
        (4) Carry extra screws, nuts,bolts and a Spark Plug.


        I remember Mr. Venkat Shyam's words, before we started - "You don't test the bike, the bike tests you" So don't worry at all, enjoy the nature!
        +1 Switch to a Ester based Synthetic oil and it will help... Motul 300V or AGIP are good brands!


        Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
        what about keeping the engine cool by spraying(throwing) water on it at every stop... may be 2-3 mugs of water... is it good to try
        That is a good habit in case you want your Engine life to shorten by a few years

        If I were you I wouldnt switch to Synthetic oil before 3~3.5K on the Odo.... PS: a good idea to change Oil filter with the oil too when you switch to Synthetic....
        Highway riding is not just about bikes ability but also yours and in case you are riding in a group, then your joint ability and responsibility... search for threads about Touring guidelines and Art of avoiding accidents... this will definitely help!
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        • #19
          Originally Posted by satyenpoojary
          I dont know about a two wheeler oil from Shell man! which one are you talking about?
          @satyenpoojary bro it's shell advance ultra 4t but it's with viscosity of 15w50 which i would not recommend you abhichotu.abhi till your bike run 10k km you should go for Castrol Power1 Racing (4T SAE 10W-40 Fully synthetic) awesome oil used for very higih speed.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
            BTW which bike you own.....
            oh yes did you mean that sudden changes in tempreature will adhversly affect bike.
            i am worried as my bike has only clocked 2000kms and i did'nr want to screw it by any means..
            dude close ur eyes and ride the bike wil not have any problem..modern bikes air/liquid cooled can do atleast 500kms of nonstop riding (which u can never do) if the bike is in good condition with fresh engine oil..as ur telling ur bike is new dont worry jus change the engine oil and ride ...

            atleast i have ridden 280kms(most of the time above 90kph) of nonstop riding and i can guarantee you that nothing will happen to ur bike..

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pradeep reddy View Post
              dude close ur eyes and ride the bike wil not have any problem..modern bikes air/liquid cooled can do atleast 500kms of nonstop riding (which u can never do) if the bike is in good condition with fresh engine oil..as ur telling ur bike is new dont worry jus change the engine oil and ride ...

              atleast i have ridden 280kms(most of the time above 90kph) of nonstop riding and i can guarantee you that nothing will happen to ur bike..

              280kms nonstop!! that means you took out everything out of bike and yourself...

              well i cannot do continous riding for 280kms...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

                If I were you I wouldnt switch to Synthetic oil before 3~3.5K on the Odo.... PS: a good idea to change Oil filter with the oil too when you switch to Synthetic....


                why i should not go for synthetic when my bike has done 2100kms?? pls elaborate

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                  why i should not go for synthetic when my bike has done 2100kms?? pls elaborate
                  Your engine goes through a lot of wear and tear in first 3000 odd KMs... you would be required to change the oil very frequently in this period as the engine parts would only get smoother and smoother if being run in correctly.

                  Synthetic oil will last for much more than a mineral based oil, i.e.
                  If you change the oil when the oil begins to wear off (which is easily about 4K Kms):
                  it will mean that the wear and tear stuff will still be inside the engine...causing it more damage

                  If you change the oil during service:
                  it will mean that you wasted the oil big time

                  Also Synthetic oil will hold much and is more viscous and holds like glue so it will not actually help the much intended wear and tear too...

                  What I have said is just from my limited experience... there is a whole lot of engine dynamics which I cant explain as am a noob in that
                  Last edited by satyenpoojary; 10-01-2009, 02:30 PM.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                    You engine goes through a lot of wear and tear in first 3000 odd KMs... you would be required to change the oil very frequently in this period as the engine parts would only get smoother and smoother if being run in correctly.

                    Synthetic oil will last for much more than a mineral based oil, i.e.
                    If you change the oil when the oil begins to wear off (which is easily about 4K Kms):
                    it will mean that the wear and tear stuff will still be inside the engine...causing it more damage

                    If you change the oil during service:
                    it will mean that you wasted the oil big time

                    Also Synthetic oil will hold much and is more viscous and holds like glue so it will not actually help the much intended wear and tear too...

                    What I have said is just from my limited experience... there is a whole lot of engine dynamics which I cant explain as am a noob in that

                    thanks for clearing my doubts, will chage to synthetic after 4000kms or on 4th free service now, is it advisable to first opt for semi synthetis and then synthetic, do i have to flush engine for synthetic oil ....

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                      thanks for clearing my doubts, will chage to synthetic after 4000kms or on 4th free service now, is it advisable to first opt for semi synthetis and then synthetic, do i have to flush engine for synthetic oil ....
                      No Need to move to semi synth... just move to Full Synth... AGIP or Motul 300V are good ones...
                      Flushing and Changing the Oil Filter before switching to Full Synth is a good habit....
                      (BTW Which Bike?)
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                      #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                      #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                      #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                      #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
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                      • #26
                        No issues at all. Just stop for about 10 minutes every 100kms. It is good to stretch yourself&cool down the machine too.
                        You can consider a synthetic oil for better heat management, say the Motul 300V Factory Line 15w50, but it doesn't suit some Pulsars. Do check some good options.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pradeep reddy View Post
                          dude close ur eyes and ride the bike wil not have any problem..modern bikes air/liquid cooled can do atleast 500kms of nonstop riding (which u can never do) if the bike is in good condition with fresh engine oil..as ur telling ur bike is new dont worry jus change the engine oil and ride ...

                          atleast i have ridden 280kms(most of the time above 90kph) of nonstop riding and i can guarantee you that nothing will happen to ur bike..

                          I agree With Pradeep. Just see what your @$$ can sustain, believe me , a Pulsar, or for that matter any other Decent bike is capable of twice as much. A lot of us have done 3-4 hours of continuous riding at speeds of over 80-90kms and the engine was never boiling hot. One fellow from our group attempted an Iron Butt on a Pulsar( my Bad, cant recollect his name!), dont really think that he would have stopped after every 100-150 kms for letting his engine cool off. Dont underestimate your bike, respect her, and she will treat you nicely. Just make sure that the engine is tuned at its best, the Air Fuel ratio, Tyre pressure, chain slack, valve clearence and all, other than that, take her for a spin and she wont Grin!!
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                            No Need to move to semi synth... just move to Full Synth... AGIP or Motul 300V are good ones...
                            Flushing and Changing the Oil Filter before switching to Full Synth is a good habit....
                            (BTW Which Bike?)
                            i own pulsar180 UG4, but during 1st service of ma bike i asked SC guy to replace oilfilter, but, he said no pulsar under 180 come with oil filter..
                            i was surprised i asked all guys i can there but answer was the same no oilfilter in P180, even in manual "not applicable" was written after oil filter.... what to do???
                            Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                            No issues at all. Just stop for about 10 minutes every 100kms. It is good to stretch yourself&cool down the machine too.
                            You can consider a synthetic oil for better heat management, say the Motul 300V Factory Line 15w50, but it doesn't suit some Pulsars. Do check some good options.
                            Originally posted by dcs View Post
                            I agree With Pradeep. Just see what your @$$ can sustain, believe me , a Pulsar, or for that matter any other Decent bike is capable of twice as much. A lot of us have done 3-4 hours of continuous riding at speeds of over 80-90kms and the engine was never boiling hot. One fellow from our group attempted an Iron Butt on a Pulsar( my Bad, cant recollect his name!), dont really think that he would have stopped after every 100-150 kms for letting his engine cool off. Dont underestimate your bike, respect her, and she will treat you nicely. Just make sure that the engine is tuned at its best, the Air Fuel ratio, Tyre pressure, chain slack, valve clearence and all, other than that, take her for a spin and she wont Grin!!
                            thanks guyz..

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                              i own pulsar180 UG4, but during 1st service of ma bike i asked SC guy to replace oilfilter, but, he said no pulsar under 180 come with oil filter..
                              i was surprised i asked all guys i can there but answer was the same no oilfilter in P180, even in manual "not applicable" was written after oil filter.... what to do???




                              thanks guyz..
                              No oil filter NO IDEA!
                              Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

                              .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex                               PowerDrift:.

                              #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
                              #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
                              #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
                              #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
                              #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
                              � Satyen Poojary

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                                No oil filter NO IDEA!
                                Well the pulsar has a cigar shaped strainer on the clutch side beside the balancer weight.
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