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Help Needed: Fitting a P220 Headlight inside the P180 fairing

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  • #16
    help is here

    a twin lamp setup is what u r lookin for then?ok.
    now....the original amby seal beam is 6 inches and two of them will look quite odd if u ask me personally.a smaller setup of twin lamps from other bike headlamps will be much better with a smaller dia headlamp.
    various options are there,two same lookin spotlamps or headlamps from rx100s or two headlamps of avanger(best fit and finish with best headlight throw).u have to make an angle T shaped metal and house both of the headlamps.house them a little lower as it will give the bike a low slung look. then make the cover as i told u.it will look cool man .trust me.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
      a twin lamp setup is what u r lookin for then?ok.
      now....the original amby seal beam is 6 inches and two of them will look quite odd if u ask me personally.a smaller setup of twin lamps from other bike headlamps will be much better with a smaller dia headlamp.
      various options are there,two same lookin spotlamps or headlamps from rx100s or two headlamps of avanger(best fit and finish with best headlight throw).u have to make an angle T shaped metal and house both of the headlamps.house them a little lower as it will give the bike a low slung look. then make the cover as i told u.it will look cool man .trust me.
      Yeah, I think you're right... smaller headlamps ARE necessary for a dual-setup. That 'low slung look' idea is excellent man! Any idea of how much the Avenger's headlamp would cost? And hey, would it be possible to find something that is not chrome?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by abdelazeez View Post
        Thanks for your good help Drvmtm; I truly appreciate it. I think the dual setup looks good, but will be tough since -like you said- the fitting would be a bit difficult since I'll have to search for parts myself. In any case, I will have to use something to cover the meter so as to save it from thieves. Excellent inputs. Thanks a lot again. In case you have any more ideas to share, please pour them in to this thread and oblige.

        I will also be on the lookout for some time for more inputs from other members as well before I decide on what I'd like to do to the bike.
        Azeez, I assume its correct, why dont u go for projector retrofits to the stock beam? Its just a plug and play module. It will not advesly affect the beauty but will defnitly enhance and gives u a different identity and road presence once u go for the HID projectors.



        Am after that currently. U will get nice angel eyes too along with the projectors Imagine the final finish with those angel eyes, only laxurious cars like BMW, AUDI etc. are coming with AE!


        To see the pic and overcome the batt issues, read this thread, as I've the same issues but later solverd it and now my Pulsar is a full DC with HID, and my batt stays cool.



        Firstly u need to go for rewinding the coils for these mods, avy coils are not more than 100W if u go for coil rewinding, u could get more than 130W! which is best for DC conversion as the coil is more than enough to pump 8A to the batt.

        One more thing, if u go for smaller sealed beams, u r sacrificing the beam spread wiidth, smaller housing spread will be poor and dont use the spots as driving lights, as the beam focussed to a particular spot. U can use the car fogs as its not focussed to a spot.

        Drvmtm, it will be more appreciatable if could post the pics ur mods.
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        • #19
          @abdelazeez

          wow thanks brother that u like my idea,and ur thanks for that is very much welcome.
          My motto of this modification is just make it better then original or at least atpar with the original.fit and finish is really important because it will be a thing that u will use it everyday!

          avy headunit is very good at its performance,its throw and performace is sweet.its price i dont know,sorry for that tht.
          yes its chrome finish is the only option but we can sort this out.painting in black is an option but we have to sand paper it then color it.but in my opinion there is a quicke r and easyer way. u can wrap it in matfinish sticker metirial ...
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          • #20
            @sajanjosepht

            your idea of plug and play projecter setup is very nice i admit.i personally havnt seen any of these retofit projecters which work in twin beam mode.if its present then a combination with hid will be brilliant.it will look cool and the light from hid +projecter set up is mind boggling i must say..

            also changing your bike to dc is necessary because hid need dc close to 9 amps while start up.pulsys headunit(up to ug 3 )uses ac .now when u connect hid to battery its get discharged because the battery only gets around 35 w dc(3-4 amps) which is not sufficient to run the hid and charge the battery,also the headlights 60 watts of ac power which is originally dedicated to headlight(stock) is not in use and its lost.now by changing the modification which is done my our own tecnological marvel the king AVIJIT from guahati(also a xbhpiaN)to Use that unused 60 watts and turned to dc from ac to charge the battery ,as it changes to dc by a bridge rectifier its only 35 watt which charges the battery.but its fine to run the hid as its only 35 watts to power it.so in the end its like a double charger setup in simple words.

            as for the modification i did its a simple backcover of pulsy and amby seal beam lucus one.currently i am out of station for my job so cannot post pics sorry for that.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
              your idea of plug and play projecter setup is very nice i admit.i personally havnt seen any of these retofit projecters which work in twin beam mode.if its present then a combination with hid will be brilliant.it will look cool and the light from hid +projecter set up is mind boggling i must say..

              also changing your bike to dc is necessary because hid need dc close to 9 amps while start up.pulsys headunit(up to ug 3 )uses ac .now when u connect hid to battery its get discharged because the battery only gets around 35 w dc(3-4 amps) which is not sufficient to run the hid and charge the battery,also the headlights 60 watts of ac power which is originally dedicated to headlight(stock) is not in use and its lost.now by changing the modification which is done my our own tecnological marvel the king AVIJIT from guahati(also a xbhpiaN)to Use that unused 60 watts and turned to dc from ac to charge the battery ,as it changes to dc by a bridge rectifier its only 35 watt which charges the battery.but its fine to run the hid as its only 35 watts to power it.so in the end its like a double charger setup in simple words.

              as for the modification i did its a simple backcover of pulsy and amby seal beam lucus one.currently i am out of station for my job so cannot post pics sorry for that.
              Yes, I've posted a dual beam projector and its rare here because of the price barrier. There are shops charging for a halo projector single lens kit is around 4-5K and the quality of the beam spread is needless to say poor. This one I have made some arrangements with some OEM suppliers for a HID Bixenon Projector Lens with angel eyes for any vehicle, a Universal type. Not sure about the price as it depends many factors like duty, local taxes, shipping etc. But it will be very reasonable with any other kits here. For that I am working for now.

              For the DC conversion, u've got two chargers at a time!, how did u regulate the AC before the rectifier? Or simply took the light wire from the stock rr and connect the bridge? I've changed the RR with a high cap RR and fed the light coil to the RR direct from the stator coil. Result was amazing with an output of 8A! All requirements are from batt and no worries till date.

              If your light coil supplying enough current to batt, why the stock charger connected?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by sajanjosepht View Post
                Yes, I've posted a dual beam projector and its rare here because of the price barrier. There are shops charging for a halo projector single lens kit is around 4-5K and the quality of the beam spread is needless to say poor. This one I have made some arrangements with some OEM suppliers for a HID Bixenon Projector Lens with angel eyes for any vehicle, a Universal type. Not sure about the price as it depends many factors like duty, local taxes, shipping etc. But it will be very reasonable with any other kits here. For that I am working for now
                Hey Sajanjosepht,
                Bro, what dual beam projector are you referring to and where have you posted it? (sorry if I'm missing something). Hey, how does using the two projectors from the 220's headlamp (i.e. taking them out of the 220's assembly n using them separately) seem? Would that be feasible?

                If not, then maybe I could get a couple of used car projectors (from scrap?) and then get someone to create/fabricate a custom housing for them on my bike. Does that sound like a good idea? I particularly liked these pics that I found online. (I think the Pulsar's fairing could be modified a bit to make it somewhat like the last one, but then I am not sure how I could glass in that shape. Could you recommend/suggest something please?)

                For angel eyes, I hope you are aware of simple DIY ways to create them at home, in a very inexpensive way. Let me know if you need more info on that one.
                Last edited by abdelazeez; 11-06-2009, 01:06 PM. Reason: Darned Typos!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by abdelazeez View Post
                  Hey Sajanjosepht,
                  Bro, what dual beam projector are you referring to and where have you posted it? (sorry if I'm missing something). Hey, how does using the two projectors from the 220's headlamp (i.e. taking them out of the 220's assembly n using them separately) seem? Would that be feasible?

                  If not, then maybe I could get a couple of used car projectors (from scrap?) and then get someone to create/fabricate a custom housing for them on my bike. Does that sound like a good idea? I particularly liked these pics that I found online. (I think the Pulsar's fairing could be modified a bit to make it somewhat like the last one, but then I am not sure how I could glass in that shape. Could you recommend/suggest something please?)

                  For angel eyes, I hope you are aware of simple DIY ways to create them at home, in a very inexpensive way. Let me know if you need more info on that one.
                  Dude, its not nice to say that u missed ur own thread's some postings
                  This was my post


                  My projector kit is a universal type with high and low beam in a single projector. Pull out the glass of the stock sealed beam and fix the lens and fix the glass back to its original condition. So u r retaining the original looks but in an enhanced way. And no doubt in the beam spreads as its from the HID bulb!

                  I dont know much about P220 lens fixing to the others as it requires frame/bracket fabrication as the fairing is bigger than the others so is the space within the fairing too. And its not having dual projectors, projector is for low beam and ellipsoidal dome is for high beam. I think its a balanced setup as the projectors wont offer a good wide high beam spread like the reflector ones. And what about the cost factors? Light assy alone will costing around 4K without any HID!

                  Salvaging the lens from junk yard is a very cost effective method but crude too. The final finish will be the main concern and for that u can use the stock fairing too.

                  U can refer another link from Shreeni



                  And for Angel Eyes' I was refering to the CCFL AE's not the cheap imitation with acrylic LED gimmics. Once u see the pics u will convince and admire the quality. Here's another one for u



                  And how about this?


                  Last edited by sajjt; 11-06-2009, 02:41 PM.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by sajanjosepht View Post
                    Dude, its not nice to say that u missed ur own thread's some postings
                    This was my post


                    My projector kit is a universal type with high and low beam in a single projector. Pull out the glass of the stock sealed beam and fix the lens and fix the glass back to its original condition. So u r retaining the original looks but in an enhanced way. And no doubt in the beam spreads as its from the HID bulb!

                    I dont know much about P220 lens fixing to the others as it requires frame/bracket fabrication as the fairing is bigger than the others so is the space within the fairing too. And its not having dual projectors, projector is for low beam and ellipsoidal dome is for high beam. I think its a balanced setup as the projectors wont offer a good wide high beam spread like the reflector ones. And what about the cost factors? Light assy alone will costing around 4K without any HID!

                    Salvaging the lens from junk yard is a very cost effective method but crude too. The final finish will be the main concern and for that u can use the stock fairing too.

                    U can refer another link from Shreeni



                    And for Angel Eyes' I was refering to the CCFL AE's not the cheap imitation with acrylic LED gimmics. Once u see the pics u will convince and admire the quality. Here's another one for u

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                    And how about this?

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                    Sorry man, I didn't actually miss any posts in this thread, I was only wondering where you've mentioned 'dual projectors' explicitly since (maybe coz of my own mindset), I was only thinking of a single projector until sometime ago and somehow thought you meant the same... Guess I should learn to pay more attention

                    Hmm... Yes, those CCFL AE's in the pics are indeed MUCH better than the cheap LED imitations... and the reason I mentioned the DIY LED ones, is simply coz they are cheap and easy to source . However, from the pics you've posted, I am convinced that the LED ones cannot match the output or the looks of the CCFLs... Thanks for that man.

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