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  • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
    got the p220's high beam reflector...
    from a crashed dome, so its very slightly chipped from back side, just the left bottom corner...
    doesn't make any difference on the reflecting surface so i am happy....
    it would be wrong to expect soo much in 50 bucks..
    fair deal ee-nay??

    i searched fiero f2 reflector in junkyards, just in case if i need one, i was not lucky to find as my bike is a rare machine today.
    i went to tvs spare part dealer and grabbed a brand new headlight reflector which already has a bulb inside...

    it was an expensive but i opted to buy that just in case if i screw this proj/halo reflector and if something goes wrong even after doing it so I'll have another one to work upon.

    if nothing goes wrong so atleast i could convert it back to stock if i want to...
    so i kept it at one side..

    regarding p220's high beam reflector, which bulb socket does it have??
    its all round from behind and can it take the heat of the 55w bulb??

    by the way i feel the quality of the plastic is decent but not as good as the plastic of fiero f2's stock reflector..
    and YES it is original, pulled out from the dome in front of my eyes...

    it doesn't even have any clamps or screw holes to mount it an a surface, so i'll have to look for ways to do it..

    regarding space it is very good, small sized, just the kind i was looking for, i placed the projector lens and the reflector side by side over the stock f2's reflector to just see how it would look like and it seems very well so far..

    now the only think left to do it put everything together in a sturdy way....
    i think that is the most difficult job of this mod so far.

    I'll put everything together first and later will go for relays, wiring stuff...

    inputs regarding fitting are most welcome...
    Nice catch for 50/ Yes the quality is better even the other Bajaj steeds. Hey why do u want a spare dome now? If some thing went wrong only u need one any way that part is over. U can prepare some brackets and stick it with the help of Mseal which can withstand considerable heat to the reflector. Why dont u post a pic of it? Before screwing to the reflector do the beam levelling first and then tighten it. It would be a pain to fix both without affecting the appeal. My wishes too for ur great escape juggad.


    Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
    thats a nice deal you got there.quality of plastic is open for interpretation but one thing is sure,tvs bikes range are having better reflectors then others.the bulb p 220 use in both beams are h 7 type 55watt halogens,so the heat melting is not a question.the throw is very precise and its a very nice combo of spot and driving beams,somehow it falls in betwwen which is a good thing.it goes and covers quite a far ,also if fitted with hid it works wonders,not too much scattering like other bajaj big dome reflectors.though its a free form reflector it s light throw is very very good and the spread is not toooo much which aids the driver as he or she can see a stong intensity of light and by far.
    remember that while mounting you use proper ventilation areas.if you see a p 220 s dome carefully you can see there are 1 cm or more free space just in front of the reflector which helps for proper cooling.
    i wish you best of luck.post some pics soon.enough chitchat already.some pics of projector in action is also welcome.
    Dude, the heat vents will be there in every stock reflector sides, so that will take care of the heat even if its 55W. Remember u r on a stock reflector with a 55W halo. But if u ride with a HB for long then it makes sense as a small reflector dont've much space to cool off easily.
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    • well ok, here comes the pics..
      sorry for not posting the pic of projector in action...
      i can't remove my battery and get it home..
      even if i do, lighting it indoors is pointless, I'll finish fixing up everything and show you guys how it looks in real world...

      here's the brothers....





      this is the 220's high beam reflector from behind, i told you guys it was chipped a bit from the bottom !!





      the only damage on it....





      that's the original f2 reflector behind....
      it seems accommodating both inside that big one is possible, but surely is not easy





      that's how f2 reflector looks from behind....





      another shot of the trio...




      i do understand that i will have to do something herculean to place the 220's high beam reflector as it has no mounts....
      I'm still not getting a concrete idea as how to do it.
      besides instead of a steel or aluminum plate, can i buy a piece of acrylic sheet and cut it, i can shape up small piece of metal in this shape
      ___^__
      |
      |
      |
      |
      ______

      three of these to hold the projector
      the ^ means holes to hold screws that can hold the projector, so that only the lens can be visible outside
      and the bottom of these clamps will be glued to the sheet

      I'll stick these clamps to the acrylic sheet with fevi quick and then fix projector on this... confusing ??

      i still don't have an idea as how to mount the 220's reflector..

      and guys, the acrylic plate which I'll have with these 2 proj reflector fitted with, i plan to stick it with the tape,
      not the ordinary tape...
      the tape which these AC guys use to seal the air ducts...
      the metal tape...
      i think it will be easier than mounting screws as well as air tight...

      i can also stick the same tape on the acrylic sheet after the holes are cut, hence it will also look like a reflecting surface, also cutting holes won't be a problem being not metal...

      but even after all this, tell me how to mount 220's high beam?


      and yes suggest me a bulb..
      H7 right??

      which one should i go for (high beam)
      inside the 220's reflector...
      Giving a lot to a fiero.
      Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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      • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
        well ok, here comes the pics..
        sorry for not posting the pic of projector in action...
        i can't remove my battery and get it home..
        even if i do, lighting it indoors is pointless, I'll finish fixing up everything and show you guys how it looks in real world...

        here's the brothers....
        .
        .
        .

        but even after all this, tell me how to mount 220's high beam?


        and yes suggest me a bulb..
        H7 right??

        which one should i go for (high beam)
        inside the 220's reflector...
        Dude without seeing the doom can't say how to accommodate the reflector but please make sure you have an option to adjust the focus and also change the bulb easily when required. Sometimes when fitting in multiple lights we forget some critical things and end messing up and reopening.

        Do use a heat gun or micro wave to open up the headlamp assembly glass. And use silicon gel to seal it without leaks.

        Regarding bulb, for time being buy ordinary halogen (H7) from Halonix/Philips/Osram. Premium bulbs doesn't really give huge difference. Instead go for H7 HID once entire setup is final.

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        • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
          well ok, here comes the pics..
          sorry for not posting the pic of projector in action...
          i can't remove my battery and get it home..
          even if i do, lighting it indoors is pointless, I'll finish fixing up everything and show you guys how it looks in real world...
          i do understand that i will have to do something herculean to place the 220's high beam reflector as it has no mounts....
          I'm still not getting a concrete idea as how to do it.
          besides instead of a steel or aluminum plate, can i buy a piece of acrylic sheet and cut it, i can shape up small piece of metal in this shape
          ___^__
          |
          |
          |
          |
          ______

          three of these to hold the projector
          the ^ means holes to hold screws that can hold the projector, so that only the lens can be visible outside
          and the bottom of these clamps will be glued to the sheet

          I'll stick these clamps to the acrylic sheet with fevi quick and then fix projector on this... confusing ??

          i still don't have an idea as how to mount the 220's reflector..

          and guys, the acrylic plate which I'll have with these 2 proj reflector fitted with, i plan to stick it with the tape,
          not the ordinary tape...
          the tape which these AC guys use to seal the air ducts...
          the metal tape...
          i think it will be easier than mounting screws as well as air tight...

          i can also stick the same tape on the acrylic sheet after the holes are cut, hence it will also look like a reflecting surface, also cutting holes won't be a problem being not metal...

          but even after all this, tell me how to mount 220's high beam?


          and yes suggest me a bulb..
          H7 right??

          which one should i go for (high beam)
          inside the 220's reflector...
          So atlast u got the cannon and the torch handy and now its time for the real effort. As u said, u cant get much help from others as its a new idea to plonk dual beams in a single pod. Acrylic sheet is a good idea to work around as cutting, making holes will be much easier than the metal sheets yes gluing too.

          Fixing the HB is not that much easy but can be done with proper brackets, try to make -u- type brackets with metal sheets to fix the HB reflector side handles behind the acrylic sheet so that it can be used as beam leveling by fixing another bracket to opposite sides or to the center with to adjust.

          Bracket type will be like this but of metal sheets


          I dont like the idea of using tape for this purpose as it can get loosen in due course as its very much vibrating than the duct sealing. U can use it later once u finished ur brackets to seal the light going backwards.


          Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
          Dude without seeing the doom can't say how to accommodate the reflector but please make sure you have an option to adjust the focus and also change the bulb easily when required. Sometimes when fitting in multiple lights we forget some critical things and end messing up and reopening.

          Do use a heat gun or micro wave to open up the headlamp assembly glass. And use silicon gel to seal it without leaks.

          Regarding bulb, for time being buy ordinary halogen (H7) from Halonix/Philips/Osram. Premium bulbs doesn't really give huge difference. Instead go for H7 HID once entire setup is final.
          Any hard time during ur juggad?

          Anyways its very very important tip in these mods as we might forget about the future maintanance part during this process just bz of our over excitement and anxiety. Once I forgot to fix the AE CCFL, and I'd to pull out the whole thing to fix that back and delayed by another 1 hr So take ur time before u seal the dome and double check for the beam adjustment clamps, levelling etc very carefully before u seal it. There's nothing wrong in fixing the dome without the front glass to test the real positions ie; for beam leveling provided in a clean from dust place else dust will go inside of the lens.

          Do not put ur sealed beams in a micro wave without convection and put the setting on convection mode (for making cake where the oven will be circulated with hot air evenly) else u can buy another dome. Still not convinced, try the same setting in micro mode and see the colour of the reflector, u wont see that after 1 min. Best thing is if u've a hair dryer use that but bit more time than the first one. Heat the sealant by blowing for 1 min on the same spot and try to pry out slowly. Once its off, clean both sides.

          Always use Halo for HB rather than HID, as u cant use it for flashing. So keep that in mind when choosing for HID.
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          • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
            Dude without seeing the doom can't say how to accommodate the reflector but please make sure you have an option to adjust the focus and also change the bulb easily when required. Sometimes when fitting in multiple lights we forget some critical things and end messing up and reopening.

            Do use a heat gun or micro wave to open up the headlamp assembly glass. And use silicon gel to seal it without leaks.

            Regarding bulb, for time being buy ordinary halogen (H7) from Halonix/Philips/Osram. Premium bulbs doesn't really give huge difference. Instead go for H7 HID once entire setup is final.
            I'll keep small things in mind..
            oops no more hid's now, out of cash.....

            Originally posted by sajjt View Post
            So atlast u got the cannon and the torch handy and now its time for the real effort. As u said, u cant get much help from others as its a new idea to plonk dual beams in a single pod. Acrylic sheet is a good idea to work around as cutting, making holes will be much easier than the metal sheets yes gluing too.

            Fixing the HB is not that much easy but can be done with proper brackets, try to make -u- type brackets with metal sheets to fix the HB reflector side handles behind the acrylic sheet so that it can be used as beam leveling by fixing another bracket to opposite sides or to the center with to adjust.

            Bracket type will be like this but of metal sheets


            I dont like the idea of using tape for this purpose as it can get loosen in due course as its very much vibrating than the duct sealing. U can use it later once u finished ur brackets to seal the light going backwards.




            Any hard time during ur juggad?

            Anyways its very very important tip in these mods as we might forget about the future maintanance part during this process just bz of our over excitement and anxiety. Once I forgot to fix the AE CCFL, and I'd to pull out the whole thing to fix that back and delayed by another 1 hr So take ur time before u seal the dome and double check for the beam adjustment clamps, levelling etc very carefully before u seal it. There's nothing wrong in fixing the dome without the front glass to test the real positions ie; for beam leveling provided in a clean from dust place else dust will go inside of the lens.

            Do not put ur sealed beams in a micro wave without convection and put the setting on convection mode (for making cake where the oven will be circulated with hot air evenly) else u can buy another dome. Still not convinced, try the same setting in micro mode and see the colour of the reflector, u wont see that after 1 min. Best thing is if u've a hair dryer use that but bit more time than the first one. Heat the sealant by blowing for 1 min on the same spot and try to pry out slowly. Once its off, clean both sides.

            Always use Halo for HB rather than HID, as u cant use it for flashing. So keep that in mind when choosing for HID.

            the things marked in bold...
            i got confused....
            do you want me to make this brackets, just to hold the handles on the left and right?
            or the whole thing...
            the pic shows the whole thing...


            i do have a convection microwave, but i don't think its big enough to accommodate this huge reflector...
            I'll have to use my sister's hairdryer..
            Giving a lot to a fiero.
            Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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            • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
              the things marked in bold...
              i got confused....
              do you want me to make this brackets, just to hold the handles on the left and right?
              or the whole thing...
              the pic shows the whole thing...


              i do have a convection microwave, but i don't think its big enough to accommodate this huge reflector...
              I'll have to use my sister's hairdryer..

              Thats another bracket to get an idea what I meant, prepare a u shaped brackets and fix the HB reflector handles using them. U can straight away fix the reflector once u make the hole on the sheet to fit enough but bit play should be there for the beam leveling.


              this is what I meant to fix those handles to the back side of the sheet. Take another one to use as leveling by pulling back and forth to lift this. Got it?

              Hope this will fix u for the time being.

              Yeah dryer will do, provided u should return it her in the same condition I had a tough time with my wife once I took her's and returned with some dirt. So next time I've to steal that if I want.
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              • Ahh Nice. I just did the Projector installation in my Stock Fiero dome. The beam is awesome, its an almost 180 Deg beam. Nice and Bright. This is more like a low beam only. Running on stock wiring. No Hid too. Planning a High beam, more like a spot beam maybe an add on somewhere someday.
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                • that's a very very well kept fiero my friend...
                  its still shining...
                  mine looks terrible...

                  anyways, do you use a h4 dual beam halogen inside it, or some other bulb...
                  hey where's your crash guard??
                  you can mount aux lamps on handlebars too...

                  Go for hid my friend, there's no replacement to the brightness of his bulb, every penny spent will be worth...
                  i think you are the only guy in this entire forum to have a fiero WITH a projector...

                  I'll be the second i think when i'll be done..
                  but surely the 1st with hid on fiero
                  Giving a lot to a fiero.
                  Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                  • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                    well ok, here comes the pics..
                    sorry for not posting the pic of projector in action...
                    i can't remove my battery and get it home..
                    even if i do, lighting it indoors is pointless, I'll finish fixing up everything and show you guys how it looks in real world...

                    here's the brothers....





                    this is the 220's high beam reflector from behind, i told you guys it was chipped a bit from the bottom !!





                    the only damage on it....





                    that's the original f2 reflector behind....
                    it seems accommodating both inside that big one is possible, but surely is not easy





                    that's how f2 reflector looks from behind....





                    another shot of the trio...




                    i do understand that i will have to do something herculean to place the 220's high beam reflector as it has no mounts....
                    I'm still not getting a concrete idea as how to do it.
                    besides instead of a steel or aluminum plate, can i buy a piece of acrylic sheet and cut it, i can shape up small piece of metal in this shape
                    ___^__
                    |
                    |
                    |
                    |
                    ______

                    three of these to hold the projector
                    the ^ means holes to hold screws that can hold the projector, so that only the lens can be visible outside
                    and the bottom of these clamps will be glued to the sheet

                    I'll stick these clamps to the acrylic sheet with fevi quick and then fix projector on this... confusing ??

                    i still don't have an idea as how to mount the 220's reflector..

                    and guys, the acrylic plate which I'll have with these 2 proj reflector fitted with, i plan to stick it with the tape,
                    not the ordinary tape...
                    the tape which these AC guys use to seal the air ducts...
                    the metal tape...
                    i think it will be easier than mounting screws as well as air tight...

                    i can also stick the same tape on the acrylic sheet after the holes are cut, hence it will also look like a reflecting surface, also cutting holes won't be a problem being not metal...

                    but even after all this, tell me how to mount 220's high beam?


                    and yes suggest me a bulb..
                    H7 right??

                    which one should i go for (high beam)
                    inside the 220's reflector...
                    you can also use m seal to stick the projector assembly on to the reflector assembly.. it works well...... mine is also done like that and it is supporting a full blown projector with angel eyes in it...
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                    • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                      that's a very very well kept fiero my friend...
                      its still shining...
                      mine looks terrible...

                      Thanks man. Love her.

                      anyways, do you use a h4 dual beam halogen inside it, or some other bulb...

                      Its the stock P220 projector inside with the stock 55w bulb. Stock is H7 i think.

                      hey where's your crash guard??

                      It broke away years ago in a minor knock.

                      you can mount aux lamps on handlebars too...

                      Yes, I need to put a high beam. The projector is only a really good low beam.

                      Go for hid my friend, there's no replacement to the brightness of his bulb, every penny spent will be worth...

                      Yes, Agreed. However, the battery on this model is really puny, and I am afraid it would drain out in no time, unless there is a solution to it.

                      i think you are the only guy in this entire forum to have a fiero WITH a projector...

                      And a lot more.

                      I'll be the second i think when i'll be done..
                      but surely the 1st with hid on fiero

                      Go for it man, Projectors are awesome. Regarding HID, keep an eye on the battery.
                      A thread of all works done on the bike is on its way. PM me if you need any installation tips. I did a very simple and unorthodox installation.
                      **MaSh**

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                      • guys please send me pics of your projector setup..
                        specially the brackets as how did you all do it...
                        and how does it makes easy for you to level beam...
                        Giving a lot to a fiero.
                        Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                        • Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
                          you can also use m seal to stick the projector assembly on to the reflector assembly.. it works well...... mine is also done like that and it is supporting a full blown projector with angel eyes in it...
                          Use nut and bolts, then u can anytime dismantle it in case of any alignment issues. Mseal makes it almost impossible to pull out. But on naked types that treatment will do for the water seepage after the alignment.


                          Originally posted by MaSh View Post
                          Ahh Nice. I just did the Projector installation in my Stock Fiero dome. The beam is awesome, its an almost 180 Deg beam. Nice and Bright. This is more like a low beam only. Running on stock wiring. No Hid too. Planning a High beam, more like a spot beam maybe an add on somewhere someday.
                          Very nice installation and u r maintaining ur bike in excellent condition.
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                            • well hello there
                              I'm back after a break.
                              i got a phillips 55w h7 bulb for high beam which fits inside the p220's high beam reflector.

                              so far I've attached both the projector and reflector behind the plate successfully.
                              I've done a lot of R & D for beam leveling.

                              after much trial and error I've found out that's its almost impossible to allow beam leveling for this high beam reflector if attached behind the plate with the clamps holding the shoulder.

                              I've decided to stick the edges to the plate.
                              forgetting the clamps holding the shoulder.
                              i had to do a bit of very precise grinding to tilt it slightly higher to give good High beam.
                              the spread is smaller, but Range is AWESOME.
                              it can light up upto 500 mts without any probs, but spread isn't that great, i don't have to worry about it as i have a proj with hid for low beam which has an almost 180 degree beam spread.

                              the projector is mounted by bolts to the plate.
                              the space is small in the main reflector so these things fit edge to edge, so had to spend entire day cutting bits of the reflector.

                              removing the glass was a pain, but did it thanks to the hair dryer, i have 1 problem.
                              i am not finding that rubber sealant anywhere.
                              nobody has it at any shops, can i use silicon gel to fit the glass back??
                              i even took the part of sealant to the shop but still no luck.

                              also i have confirmed my beam leveling after much trial and error, i don't want to change it so I've decided to seal the edges of the plate with a rubberized sealant or m seal back to the main big stock reflector.
                              i know its not a good idea but i planned it for a reason.
                              please tell me where can i find a good rubberized sealant if possible suggest me the name too.

                              i has a small space track below the dome given by the factory to mount bolts,
                              these are not holes, but tracks almost an inch long which means they have given it for beam leveling.
                              i can use it to adjust minor things, but so far high and low fall exactly above one another.
                              so remaining distance issues can be sorted.

                              I've stuck angles at proper places on the main reflector to hold the plate.
                              however I'll use sealant on all the sides to make it 1 piece

                              I'll post pics very soon.


                              Please help me regarding relays.
                              spst relay!!
                              what to do with that, i have no idea as how to make it work on stock switches.
                              please be more detailed with the connections part.

                              all i want now is
                              when i keep the switch to low beam, i want hid to glow
                              when i switch to high beam i want both the projector and reflector, i.e hid and halo to glow.
                              also when i hit pass, irrelevant of weather the headlight switch is on or off, or high beam / low beam is selected
                              i want only the REFLECTOR to flash.....


                              so far 2 thing guys.

                              1) Everything is gone according to the plan and is perfect.
                              2) i owe a lot to you guys who made it happen so far.
                              thanks a lot......

                              please tell me how this is done and I'll be done completely.
                              Giving a lot to a fiero.
                              Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                              • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post

                                i am not finding that rubber sealant anywhere.
                                nobody has it at any shops, can i use silicon gel to fit the glass back??
                                i even took the part of sealant to the shop but still no luck.
                                First of all heartly congratulations for your successful completion of Project Projector.

                                You can use the hair drier again to heat up the existing sealant and place back the glass. After sealing the glass, to keep it 100% water proof use Silicon Gel (available in aquarium shops).

                                The relay part, its best explained by Abhi / Sajjit / Dr.

                                Photos are wanted urgently
                                Do post them soon

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