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  • Isn't a KB capable of high speed cruising?

    Yest did my first ever trip on my bike to a place called sirumalai(hills), around 100kms away from my place. Accompanying me were two friends on a P150. Cornering was really fun on my bike. Way back I rode doubles and was doin 85+ since the P150 guy was at 90(four lane roads!). My bike suddenly fainted and we tried starting(for half an hour) but in vain. Luckily there was a small town near. Then we went in search of a mech(on a sunday!). We woke up a mech who was tight asleep. He was generous enough to repair my bike since we had 70+kms to go. As I expected the problem was with the spark plug since the same thing had happened before when I was ripping hard with a pillion. Replaced and I rode alone between 70-80kmph. Reached home safely. Learnt good lessons.
    1.Try to have company when on long tours.
    2.Carry spares.
    3.Never push your bike to its limits.
    The best part was that my bike gave around 45kmpl.

    Now coming back to the problem. Did the problem occur because the bike is not capable of carrying two people at 85+kmph? Or is there a problem with the spark plug? Note that the problem doesn't occur when I'm riding alone. I've done continously 85+ for around half an hour and there was no problem at all. The mech said one musn't do 75+ on 2-strokeys(I don't believe this!). Will appreciate a technical explanation for the problem.
    Tour De Thekkady

    The Return of the KB

    The Run-in Adventure

    150cc doing 100+ is great!
    100cc doing 100+ is awesome!!
    150cc cornering like hell is great!
    100cc cornering like hell is awesome!!
    THAT'S WHY I RIDE A RTZ!!

  • #2
    Query Approved.
    :)

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    • #3
      I guess you should give sufficient breaks for the engine to cool as it tends to heat very quickly. And yes spark plug might be culprit or it was unable to take the heat resulting failure.

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      • #4
        Dude, Dont hold out on the same RPM continously on a 2 stroker! Was the spark plug fowled up? maybe you are running a pretty rich mixture.
        Sit Down, Shut Up and Hang on ....

        FB :
        Ragavan Venkatakrishnan

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        • #5
          Check your oil pump settings. Perhaps, your pump is pushing more oil than required, resulting in incomplete combustion and subsequently plug fouling. Also check the source of your fuel (did you fuel up from a different bunk this time?)
          Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

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          • #6
            Its all about keeping your carb tuned and fit in perfect condition, i have done numerous non stop rides on my rx moped all at min speeds of 85+ never underestimate your two stroke, devolop a habit of carrying a plug spanner and spare plugs in the tool box.

            On pillion riding ask aravindraju on the forum, new rebored engine went on for a highway run for 150kms or so absolute bliss it was 90+ speeds ...
            Last edited by psycho 98; 07-05-2010, 04:08 PM.
            "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


            Still the Boss -- RX 135

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            • #7
              @Aryan
              Thank you aryan for the approval.

              Thank you everyone for your quick reply.

              @felix
              The first time it happened the spark plug was totalled. This time the spark plug wasn't firing. In fact while repairing we noticed that the there was no spark at all! The mech said there were no signs of oil on the plug. It was pretty dry. Is there a problem in holding the bike in the same rpm?? Any reasons??

              @niranjanvaidya
              I'll consider what you have said. I too suspect filling fuel in different bunks caused the problem. I also need to clean the fuel tank as I can see a little dust settled. I don't think there is a problem with the oil pump because my bike doesn't smoke badly.

              @all
              But my confusion is howcome the problem never occurs when there is no pillion.
              Tour De Thekkady

              The Return of the KB

              The Run-in Adventure

              150cc doing 100+ is great!
              100cc doing 100+ is awesome!!
              150cc cornering like hell is great!
              100cc cornering like hell is awesome!!
              THAT'S WHY I RIDE A RTZ!!

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              • #8
                how old was the plug?? i think the spark plug could not take the high temps, and the bike was running quite lean as well.


                My offerings to the gods of speed -

                - KTM Duke 200
                - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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                • #9
                  Its all a myth; whether you've a pillion or not, if your intake is good including a good carbs doing its job, your output will not be of any issue at all.
                  PS - I've ripped (read it T.W.O) with a pillion on RX including a backpack of about 10Kg from Thoppur to Krishnagiri & RX didn't even sneeze. Like Psycho says, it all depends on the carb tuning.
                  Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                  Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                  ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                  • #10
                    Check your plug if it is right one for your bike per manual.
                    As many suggested, check carb if it is tuned correct.
                    Note: I had same problem almost a year ago on my RX, was using the recommended spark plug and the plug cap was a stock, still had issues.

                    After the carb was tuned to right setting, I did not have any issues. Then, regularly checked oil, plug reading to make sure the bike is tuned correct.
                    RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                    2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by arvindraju
                      psycho can never forget this ride,fulll blast @ 90+ with 2 heavy asses :P bike really pulled well it was all about riding in 4th & 5th gear
                      Moral of the Story: blast your bike ONLY if you can tune it right
                      LOL and this is what i call running in the new engine, run rich and blast the shitt out
                      "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


                      Still the Boss -- RX 135

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                      • #12
                        LOL. thats only coz you got the right clearances on the setup I know my first rebore was done by a complete idiot [some chief service engineer of the andheri yamaha showroom] I took the bike at 60kph after 200 kms and i seized again. 3 rebores in the same month :P This was back in 2000
                        83' RD350 HT
                        96' RXG
                        97' RXZ
                        91'RX100>09'RX165
                        2010' HH ZMR

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by harishkumarko View Post
                          The mech said one musn't do 75+ on 2-strokeys(I don't believe this!).
                          Does he know about RD350?

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                          • #14
                            i Doubt it but can any CDI issues cause this?
                            Sit Down, Shut Up and Hang on ....

                            FB :
                            Ragavan Venkatakrishnan

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                            • #15
                              @felix
                              Nope! I don't think there is a problem with CDI....

                              @franklyspeaking
                              You know the answer!

                              @SriramEfunds
                              Thanks for the suggestion sir. As per the manual the recommended spark plug is NGK B8 ES or an equivalent. Now to be frank I don't understand any of these(psst that's why I am gonna do automobile eng).

                              @jd666
                              Frankly....I don't understand what running lean means! The plug seemed to be corroded this time. I'm not sure how old it was but I guess it was a used one.

                              @aargee
                              Thank you sir. INPUT->PROCESS->OUTPUT. If that's the case then the problem exists with the PROCESS I guess. I'll have my carb checked and will replace the spark plug.

                              @all
                              Since I ain't good with technical data, pls suggest me a good brand for the spark plug. My dad asked me to go for a MICO.
                              Tour De Thekkady

                              The Return of the KB

                              The Run-in Adventure

                              150cc doing 100+ is great!
                              100cc doing 100+ is awesome!!
                              150cc cornering like hell is great!
                              100cc cornering like hell is awesome!!
                              THAT'S WHY I RIDE A RTZ!!

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