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  • Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

    I will keep on editing this post as and when I find time. However, I will try to answer the queries ASAP.

    Prologue: There was no need of intercom in any of my rides till date (leh, amritsar, jammu and what not). Indeed, I used to enjoy the "alone" moment during my rides. But then I got hitched . And just after couple of rides, my wife started complaining that we are not able to converse during the ride. I agreed and hence, started my search for a set - up, which can solve this issue.

    Needs (In order of highest priority first):

    1. Talkback option with the pillion. (Good clarity at cruising speed of 80-90 kmph)
    2. Music sharing. (If I connect my set to my phone and play music, both me and the pillion should be able to listen to that)
    3. Listening to music or GPS commands (Solo)

    Search: So I started looking for options which can fulfill me needs. Browsed loads of forums and online stores for bluetooth intercoms.
    Top brands in this segment are Sena and Interphone. The dual bluetooth intercom kits by these companies will start from $200 (if you get good deal).
    In India, Bachoo motors also offer dual pair kit @ 21k.

    Considering my budget which was 6-7k max, I started looking for alternatives. I came across 2 other less known (chineses) brands : Vnetphone and Climder.
    Went through reviews of both and aliexpress and amazon. Hardly anyone had covered in-depth review of these but most of the customers were satisfied with the value for money performance of these bluetooth intercoms.

    I went through the websites of these companies and after loads of comparison and assessing my needs zeroed in on climder C3.

    Ordered it through aliexpress as there is no official dealer in India.
    Got it for $84 with free shipping. My package was delivered within 20 days .

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    The box is pretty basic and contains following:
    2 units of climder C3
    2 units of headphones and speaker wires
    2 units of mounting clamps
    2 units of charging cables

    This product is for motorcycle purpose only.
    Climder also offers another bluetooth intercoms which aims at other sports such as cycling, snow surfing etc. Be sure that if you think of buying this, you order C3 (as the other bluetooth intercom has single earpiece and different clamps which will not fit the helmet)

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    Instruction manual is exhaustive and lists the guide for connecting the bluetooth intercoms to the phone or pairing with each other.
    Good thing is that it is in English.

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    The inner packing of the box.
    Packing is nothing to boast about and serves the purpose of placing the product safely and separately.

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    The close up picture of the bluetooth headsets are above. The functionality of different buttons are listen below:
    1. Phone button (triangular in shape and with phone symbol) : Used to start or shut the unit.
    2. Button A (Circular in shape): Used to pair with the pillion/rider 1.
    3. Button B (Circular in shape-smaller than A button): Used to pair with pillion/rider 2.
    4. Volume buttons (Small and oval) : to increase the volume of the bluetooth intercom (Don't know why they have placed +ive/increasing button below and -ive button above)

    In between the volume buttons, there is a led light which signifies the mode of the bluetooth intercom.

    Red: Shutting down or starting up.
    Red and Blue flickering (alternatively) : Available for pairing and looking for other bluetooth devices in vicinity.
    Blue flickering (every second) : Connected with phone and ready for music or GPS commands.
    Blue flickering (at every 4-5 seconds) : Connected with other bluetooth intercom and ready for talk back.

    If you notice the last image. you can see that buttons are raised well above the whole unit and one can operate them easily on the move. The tactile feeling of the button is satisfactory and you also get a beep sound (in the ear piece) in case you press buttons.

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    This is the side view of bluetooth intercom.

    The charging port is covered by a small rubber flap which can be easily opened. The charging cable is mini USB (old motorola phones used that). Due to this, you need to carry the charging cables provided in the package if you intend to tour. I have not used any mini to micro USB cables, therefore cant comment if it is possible to charge this with our mobile micro usb chargers.

    The other port is jack for speakers and the earpiece.

    Climder claims that this unit is weather proof and can withstand rain and dirt. Time will tell.

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    This is the back portion of the unit. It has a key like structure which is used to fix the unit on the mounting clamps.

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    There are 2 parts of mounting clamp. The main clamp itself and a supporting same shaped disc (which is shown beside the main clamp).
    At first, I was clueless about the positing and the use of this supporting disc but then I think this is just to reinforce the attachement between the mount and the bluetooth set.
    This disc will also prevent any scratching on the helmet due to rubbing of the key structure (of the main bluetooth unit) while installing or removing the bluetooth unit.

    The main mounting clamp can be fixed by adjusting the 2 screws. You do not need any special screw driver to operate these (Generic will do).

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    Shown above is the speaker and earpiece set. the backside of speaker holder (small disc just before speaker mike) and earpiece are covered with 3m dual side tape.
    This needs to be removed in order to paste it to the inner shell of the helmet.
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    Last edited by aquaticbullet; 02-17-2015, 12:16 PM.

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    Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

    Approved!

    Will keep an eye on this one. Though I ordered one from Aliexpress, I may need to order a legit piece soon.
    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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    • #3
      Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

      Thanks for approval Divya !! Which unit you ordered?

      Ride Impressions

      I completed a 1000 km trip with my wife recently and following is my user experience of this product:

      Riding Conditions:

      Roads: It involved smooth highway(Cruising speed 100-110), Highway with loads of diversions and people dancing in between (Cruising speed 70-90), city roads (speed 30-50) and congested roads (10-20).

      Wind: This factor will be considered only on highways. We experienced tailwind, headwind as well as crosswind.

      Helmet vents: Both rider and pillion used helmets with front cheek and mount vents open as well as close.

      Distance between the rider and pillion: While riding the distance is obviously close but on short breaks the distance was anything between 20 - 100 meters. (For eg. when I would go and buy a water bottle and my wife is looking after the bike etc)

      Product Review:

      Rating out of 5 stars - 1 being the not satisfied and 5 being highly satisfied:

      Price : 4
      (Disclaimer: I have not used high end and branded bluetooth intercoms so my expectation was quite different. I am sure that such intercoms which retail upwards of 20k for a pair offer better experience, but I am not sure about their value for money aspect)
      I explored all the options and this was the cheapest which ticked my boxes on the paper.

      Packaging: 4
      The products was packaged in a well segmented box.

      Instruction Manual: 3.5
      The instruction for linking the unit with other unit or with a bluetooth enabled phone is pretty elaborate. However, the manual didn't cover the installation procedure. This is very important as the correct installation would make a night and day difference in the end user experience. (I would have given 5 if it had covered installation procedure)

      Built quality: 4
      The bluetooth intercom are made of hard plastic and seem to last for considerable time (Hope I am correct ). Also, the wires are of good quality and pretty thick. The sticking tape was of 3M brand which was quite a surprise. Mouthpiece has got good foam cover to protect from rough edges.

      Can't comment on it's water resistant abilities as it is yet to be tested.

      Installation mechanism: 4.5
      (Deducted .5 marks just because in case of some helmets the mounting disc may slide. But this does not affect the functionality of the unit. Unit stays on its place and is stable during the ride.

      Intercom and music experience: 3.5
      In the city roads and congested roads we were able to talk quite comfortably. On highways we had to speak a bit louder. And anything above the speed of 80 was just a buzz. However wind played a lot of role. In case of tail wind we were able to talk at 90 kmph. But headwind and crosswind just ruined the intercomm.

      My wife listened to music for some time and the experience was quite ok. However, we could not share the music. Hence the system can work as intercom or bluetooth headphones not both at same time. But I can live with this.

      Charging: 4
      During our whole trip the device didn't die on us. We used to charge them at night for 2 hours or so and they would work whole day.
      Just one concern: even after extended charging the red led of the unit didn't turn blue (hence, I was not sure if the unit was fully charged or not. Will test this issue exhaustively later.)

      Hence all in all, if you are on budget and want something which can be used as intercomm while travelling at low speeds, this is a good buy. However, if you want that you should be able to talk while cruising at >100kmph then please invest in branded intercoms.

      Please let me know if you any queries.
      Last edited by aquaticbullet; 02-27-2015, 12:02 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

        Originally posted by aquaticbullet View Post
        Thanks for approval Divya !! Which unit you ordered?

        Ride impressions - Reserved
        The cheapest Chinese set within $25 with most orders placed and decent reviews. Had a Chinese name on it. I would be able to tell more only after I get it.
        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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        • #5
          Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

          [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION], Link please?
          [MENTION=29506]aquaticbullet[/MENTION]

          What is the cost of this? And if more than one piece is bought, can they be interconnected like for 4 guys to converse?
          Sometimes it is the people who no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.

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            Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

            Originally posted by babaji View Post
            @Divya, Link please?
            @aquaticbullet

            What is the cost of this? And if more than one piece is bought, can they be interconnected like for 4 guys to converse?
            This cant be connected to 4 people. At max 3 people can share the intercom network.

            Cost is $84 including shipping for dual sets. (one for my wife and other for me)

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            • #7
              Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

              Originally posted by aquaticbullet View Post
              This cant be connected to 4 people. At max 3 people can share the intercom network.

              Cost is $84 including shipping for dual sets. (one for my wife and other for me)
              Thats costly, atleast for me :P.

              Anyway, [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] bro, can you please share the link?
              Sometimes it is the people who no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.

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              • #8
                Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                Originally posted by babaji View Post
                Thats costly, atleast for me :P.

                Anyway, @Divya Sharan bro, can you please share the link?
                Sorry bro, got a bit late in replying!

                Have a look at this page and take your pick - Shop motorcycle intercom online Gallery - Buy motorcycle intercom for unbeatable low prices on AliExpress.com
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                • #9
                  Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                  Need one. But aint there an app that does the same?
                  Like create a closed radio network, use the phone to remit and receive signals, get in as many peeps as possible. Nah? What about Push To Talk?
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                  • #10
                    Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Sorry bro, got a bit late in replying!

                    Have a look at this page and take your pick - Shop motorcycle intercom online Gallery - Buy motorcycle intercom for unbeatable low prices on AliExpress.com
                    Thanks.
                    Sometimes it is the people who no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                      Would be good if you can actually compare these budget ones with lower end branded BT comm kits like the Sena SMH5. Will be interesting to see the difference, because some of these will be quite close if not better in performance to the branded comm kits.

                      I was in the same boat a few months back, I was swaying between these 60-90$ dual kits vs the Sena SMH5 dual kit course costs almost double. Having said that I decided to take plunge and pick up the Sena over other because I wanted peace of mind. Now I wish I had more money to directly pick up the SMH10

                      From a personal POV I will recommend giving the SMH5 a second thought, I know you can buy two (maybe even three) chinese ones in that cost but it is definitely worth it.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                        True Praful bhai. Just a matter of time and dough!

                        Sent from my phone. Kindly avoid it while riding.
                        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                        Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • #13
                          Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                          PUSH TO TALK app anyone?
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                          • #14
                            Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                            Originally posted by Praful View Post
                            Would be good if you can actually compare these budget ones with lower end branded BT comm kits like the Sena SMH5. Will be interesting to see the difference, because some of these will be quite close if not better in performance to the branded comm kits.

                            I was in the same boat a few months back, I was swaying between these 60-90$ dual kits vs the Sena SMH5 dual kit course costs almost double. Having said that I decided to take plunge and pick up the Sena over other because I wanted peace of mind. Now I wish I had more money to directly pick up the SMH10

                            From a personal POV I will recommend giving the SMH5 a second thought, I know you can buy two (maybe even three) chinese ones in that cost but it is definitely worth it.

                            Even I would like to do the same. Compare mine with the branded offering and check if there is a difference or not. Do you use your unit for intercom or phone pairing (GPS and Music) ?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Budget Bluetooth Intercoms (CLIMDER C3) - Review

                              Originally posted by aquaticbullet View Post
                              Even I would like to do the same. Compare mine with the branded offering and check if there is a difference or not. Do you use your unit for intercom or phone pairing (GPS and Music) ?
                              I use mine for all i.e. intercom with pillion and other riders, phone, music (and music sharing too), GPS (or secondary phone)
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