Once you buy a Claw your option to use a Saddlebag is killed. If I have to pay the same amount to get the Hawk, why would one kill this flexibility of using the saddlebags.

If Sandeep was carrying a Claw for his above mentioned ride, he would not have been able to use any saddlebag and would not have been able to carry his friend's luggage. So all I am saying is why kill the option of carrying additional luggage by buying the Claw.

When stacked with less stuff, Claw gets completely shapeless- I am sure, this cannot be the thoughtful design philosophy. It should have rather had a compression/ expansion mechanism. Why would one want to carry that huge log when I am hardly having anything inside. I think the Hawk score another point here as it has a thoughtful expansion/compression mechanism- One can converts into a small tail bag when not expanded, when carrying lesser stuff. Though I did not like its shape when not expanded but its much functional.

Also I was told by a friend that one needs to very carefully fill the bag else the bag shows some stability issues as it tends to bend towards one side (I got an image that exactly explain this on Viaterra's FB Page itself), However a Viaterra Dealer in Mumbai recommended me to buy a bungee chord along with the Claw to counter this. But then if I have to use bungee chords, Hawk would again be a better option as it comes with Bungee chords by default.

Well after using saddlebags with a tail bag on multiple occasions and using Claw for non-stop 1 month bike trip, I can easily say "To each his own".

What I disagree about claw is the mentioned stability or shape issue. The craftsmanship of claw is top notch and based on month long trip through central India(read rain and off-road) and Leh, I can vouch for its stability and shape.

For me Claw was ''Fill it, shut it and forget it" for entire trip. On the other hand, saddlebags and tail bag combo did give me a little more flexibility but I had to spend my fair share of time in loading, unloading and striking various permutations.

I am not saying that the Rynox is Inferior (I haven't even seen/touched it)..


The Claw was designed as a Simple solution for all bikes (be it the Duke, R15, Royal Enfield, Pulsars, Harley Davidsons.. On/Off Road bikes.. almost all of them).. and YES, it was INTENDED to have a FLEXIBLE SHAPE so that it manages to HUG the rear seat of bikes with all shapes of rear ends.

After all it was ME who designed it

Ohh that's great !!

No offense to you as a product designer. You have indeed done a good job. Perhaps now I am hoping that my words could help you better the product's future models. What I really like about the Hawk is the ability to expand and compress whenever required.

But really the shape of the Claw really gets weird and off-balanced as shown in the image shared by me above.

I do not ride in a big group or something. I have a few friends and my elder brother with whom I ride, 1 of them was using a Claw he was using it with Bungees, that is where my information comes from- so its first hand. May be this would help as a feedback.

BY THE WAY:

Sandeep could have also bought 2 CLAWS put one on his bike and other on his friends (provided none of them had any pillion of course) .. even then it could have cost him way less (2 x 2900) than the Rynox Saddle + Tail Bag (4,699 + 2,999) combo and still manage the ALMOST THE SAME COMBINED CARRYING CAPACITY in terms of Litres (around 110 lts)

Case 1: Assuming his friend had a pillion, 2 Claw's would have been worthless !
Case 2: Cost of 2 Claw (2 X 2900) > Rynox Stacker Saddlebag +Hawk (2680+2999). Assuming Stacker is the most inexpensive saddlebag (with rain cover). If there is any other brand you can add that instead of the Stacker.

OR Rather let me put it this way

Case 2: Cost of 2 Claw (2 X 2900) + 4 Bungee Chords (4 X 200) >> Rynox Stacker Saddlebag +Hawk (2680+2999)..

Saddle bag cost Rs 4699/- and the Tail bag ( Hawx ) costs Rs 2999/-

Hahaha..yeah pleasing everyone is not possible..though thank you for acknowledging my feedback !
And I just happened to realize that my previous post looks like an arithmetic problem ! (Though it completely makes sense )

The " Fill It. Shut It. Forget It" thing remains common for almost all bags by reputed brands- Viaterra, Rynox, Dirtsack or any others..!

May be Sandeep can provide better clarity if the "Fill It. Shut It. Forget It." thing is also valid for Rynox as well?

My Simple Point: Why KILL the Flexibility of using Saddlebags when you can pay as much and have almost all of it that the Claw has to offer.

ALSO PLEASE STOP EDITING/MESSING WITH MY COMMENTS: NEVER HAVE I MENTIONED "RYNOX STACKER SADDLEBAGS"

Simple Answer: No Arithmetic or Calculations, No Hauling-Loading-Unloading around Multiple bags. "ONE BAG-ANY BIKE-ANY JOURNEY"

I DID NOT EDIT YOUR COMMENT !!! In my reply your quotes are as posted by you.

Your Simple Answer is true for the Hawk as well I believe- "ONE BAG-ANY BIKE-ANY JOURNEY"

If one likes the flexibility of a Tail Luggage with Saddlebags and not the Claw, then one can just strap his normal Duffel Bag on the rear seat of his bike (just like many who still travel on their bike).

Come on dude, you are the one who made a motorcycle luggage. You cannot be recommending someone to use a Duffle bag instead of a motorcycle specific luggages !

Why not?

You made the Claw right so that riders have a motorcycle luggage solution (better/faster/secure mounting+much more) over primitive duffle bags !..And you ask me why not !
Okay ..Go ahead then and recommend people to use Duffle bags over the Claw..Certainly not life threatening !

So now do we go ahead and compare duffle bags to motorcycle luggage solution !!!!

Hahaha..yeah pleasing everyone is not possible..though thank you for acknowledging my feedback !
And I just happened to realize that my previous post looks like an arithmetic problem ! (Though it completely makes sense )

The " Fill It. Shut It. Forget It" thing remains common for almost all bags by reputed brands- Viaterra, Rynox, Dirtsack or any others..!

May be Sandeep can provide better clarity if the "Fill It. Shut It. Forget It." thing is also valid for Rynox as well?

My Simple Point: Why KILL the Flexibility of using Saddlebags when you can pay as much and have almost all of it that the Claw has to offer.

But Sir when it comes to capacity i was having around 117 Litres of capacity ( Saddles 64 litres + Tail bag 53 litres). After reaching Leh i dropped my saddles at the hotel and was carrying only tail bag (filled with essentials ) with me for the next few days until i returned back to Leh ( after 4 days ).

and when it comes to Claw one will be restricted to 55 litres.

Case 2: Bungee Cords are not necessary. Thousands of Claw users can't be wrong