KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

[joe_marvy]

Re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

Finally went for service yesterday, got the bike back today. Marathahalli KTM service is now move a KM further and it's quite big. No more pigeon cage. Bajaj separate bay, KTM and Kawasaki has a separate bay.

Explained about the issue with low oil pressure and also told him I have topped up with 100ml oil, from then the the warning stopped. However I wanted to have a piece of mind so replace, oil, oil filter and the O-Ring. Also, check with the diagnostic tool for any warning.

They checked everything, oil quantity was correct, oil was not burnt, oil could have been used further for more KMS. But the culprit seems to be the O-Ring. It was bulged to cut. Pictures below. Replaced O-Ring and checked oil pressure and it was holding good. He said in case this happens again please get the bike and leave it with us for two days, we may need to do an extensive analysis.

Is this good?

[alen]

Re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

Hi everyone
There is a dragging like sound coming from the chain/sprocket. It is a bit annoying when the bike is not accelerated and it gradually reduces with throttling.
Is anyone facing this issue?

[Ajay Vishwanath]

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always try to be around when the bike is being serviced and especially during oil change..

THAT my friend, IS the most important thing to do. Believe me, I asked for a new oil filter and they were reusing the old one and the mechanic hid the new one after taking from the spares. Cheap @$$h0les. Not all, but a good number of them are. So yeah.

[s1d]

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Hey guys can anyone upload a picture on how to check oil level on the rc200 . I gave mine for servicing just yesterday and I think the oil level is low. Not able to upload pictures.

you need to let the bike idle for a minute or two and shut it down, wait for 30 seconds and look at the oil sight glass with the bike upright (ask someone to hold it, and not on side or paddock stand). It should show close to the upper '-' mark (i.e. above the midway between the lower and upper '-') and on a cold engine it will be a little above the upper '-' mark.
always try to be around when the bike is being serviced and especially during oil change.. and make sure they refill ~1.4l during oil+filter change. that way you know for sure that new oil and the right quantity has gone in.

[Kenny Pinto]

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Hey guys can anyone upload a picture on how to check oil level on the rc200 . I gave mine for servicing just yesterday and I think the oil level is low. Not able to upload pictures.

[jRay]

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if its properly applied, it wont peel off easily unless you apply heat.
You need to leave it for 24 hours after applying it, to ensure maximum bonding.

Thank you. I'll update once i get it

[vishnu.leo]

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Sure will do, one more thing, is it easily peeled off after application? I don't want people to peel it off when the bike is parked somewhere

if its properly applied, it wont peel off easily unless you apply heat.
You need to leave it for 24 hours after applying it, to ensure maximum bonding.

[jRay]

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No idea on the import duty, I believe some items if valued under a certain amount is certified as gift and original invoice citing the value of product being under the limit should get it through customs without any tax.
Try searching amazon US for the product , the amount they show at the end is usually inclusive of all taxes. Prices on revzilla seems to be almost the same as we get here when we consider the shipping cost

Sure will do, one more thing, is it easily peeled off after application? I don't want people to peel it off when the bike is parked somewhere

[vishnu.leo]

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Thanks man. I might get it from US, any idea on the custom duty that will be levied?

No idea on the import duty, I believe some items if valued under a certain amount is certified as gift and original invoice citing the value of product being under the limit should get it through customs without any tax.
Try searching amazon US for the product , the amount they show at the end is usually inclusive of all taxes. Prices on revzilla seems to be almost the same as we get here when we consider the shipping cost

[jRay]

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been using the snakeskin for almost an year now. the best investment i made on any accessory for the bike i must say, greatly reduced the stress on hands and thighs since the legs now almost automatically lock onto the tank.

You can contact this shop, I believe they ship to anywhere in india. Gripsters usually cost 6k-7k depending upon size and model.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dj-Helmets/1383631398560688

photos of the bike with the gripsters

Thanks man. I might get it from US, any idea on the custom duty that will be levied?

[vishnu.leo]

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Can anyone suggest good tank grips for the RC? I am confused between stomp grips and techspec snakeskin, read online that stompgrips are way too aggressive and will eat through jeans and riding pants eventually.
Also i have no idea where to find snakeskin in mumbai, would be helpful if anyone can suggest a place for me to check it out

been using the snakeskin for almost an year now. the best investment i made on any accessory for the bike i must say, greatly reduced the stress on hands and thighs since the legs now almost automatically lock onto the tank.

You can contact this shop, I believe they ship to anywhere in india. Gripsters usually cost 6k-7k depending upon size and model.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dj-Helmets/1383631398560688

photos of the bike with the gripsters

[jRay]

Re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

Can anyone suggest good tank grips for the RC? I am confused between stomp grips and techspec snakeskin, read online that stompgrips are way too aggressive and will eat through jeans and riding pants eventually.
Also i have no idea where to find snakeskin in mumbai, would be helpful if anyone can suggest a place for me to check it out

[joe_marvy]

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The right way to check the engine oil is mentioned in the manual. all you need to do is let the bike idle for a minute or two and shut if down, wait for 30 seconds...

I did this today morning, it's perfect. After 2 minutes of idle, turned off engine. Waited for 30 seconds or bit more. Yes, it was close to the upper mark/above midway. When the engine was cold, the level was exactly on the upper mark, not more than that. Hope things are good for now.

And remember in emergencies you don't have to put in 'motul'.. any decent Xw40 or Xw50 oil would do. in fact even a xW30 is ok provided you ride out slowly till you reach the closest workshop. remember.. any oil is better than no oil...

I will keep this in mind, thank you!

Then have the oil drained in to an empty container and measured at the svc......

I am going tomorrow, I will get all this done.

Get the bike warm and then rev it up to around 7000 rpm a few times on neutral and observe for smoke from the exhaust. Blue smoke indicates oil burning.

check for smoke during early morning starts, usually IT WILL smoke if we have head and bore problems If it smokes thick, smells oily we have problems with the rings and piston...

Cheers!
VJ

Thank God, no smoke at all

Burnt oil can indicate a lot of things. Anything less than 1.4 we are looking at inadequate quantity of oil installed by your dealership.

Tomorrow I will come to know the oil level, burnt or not and other damages. Fingers crossed there should not be any damage. I also doubt the quantity of oil installed in the last service.

[B7ACKTHORN]

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Hi Alen, please don't quote the entire post. I stopped long rides because of personal reasons. My ride is for work commute and not taking him for rides. My one way is just 14 KMs, but in tight traffic (Bangalore). BTW I'm no fan of upgrading stock exhaust for a single cylinder😉.


No VJ, I'm sure what is mentioned in manual and as @s1d said, I had let it run to optimum temp and the let it cool then checked leaving the bike straight. It was in good level, but oil looked burnt (I saw that and smelled).

My question is how it can burn so much oil to give low pressure sign when it's just 3+ K with new oil (does the oil expire after days?).

But as you said the oil was below the center line when it was hot while pouring the top-up. Am I looking something big opening engine/bore? Do you think some thing is failing inside?

God I don't want SVC guys play around factory fixed things...

Guys, I'll better sell my bike and not let anyone (even trained personnel) to open the heart on a just 2 year old baby.

Burnt oil can indicate a lot of things. But sticking to the topic and keeping it simple, oil level measurement on a cold engine can be checked the next day after an overnight park or 20 to 45 mins after a hot ride. In fact, you can only know the right amount of oil used by draining the engine oil and do a visual cross check to what the manufacturer recommends, that is 1.6L. Anything less than 1.4 we are looking at inadequate quantity of oil installed by your dealership.

Secondly, check for smoke during early morning starts, usually IT WILL smoke if we have head and bore problems If it smokes thick, smells oily we have problems with the rings and piston -- the bore kit in general. If you don't observe any such "paranormal" activities. Do a compression check at your dealership and install a fresh charge of oil with the right quantity, should get things in check.

Cheers!
VJ

[s1d]

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Hi Alen, please don't quote the entire post. I stopped long rides because of personal reasons. My ride is for work commute and not taking him for rides. My one way is just 14 KMs, but in tight traffic (Bangalore). BTW I'm no fan of upgrading stock exhaust for a single cylinder��.

No VJ, I'm sure what is mentioned in manual and as @s1d said, I had let it run to optimum temp and the let it cool then checked leaving the bike straight. It was in good level, but oil looked burnt (I saw that and smelled).

My question is how it can burn so much oil to give low pressure sign when it's just 3+ K with new oil (does the oil expire after days?).

But as you said the oil was below the center line when it was hot while pouring the top-up. Am I looking something big opening engine/bore? Do you think some thing is failing inside? .

First get the bike to the svc and checked (using their diagnostic tool and clear the dtc's). It could have also been a false warning. Considering that these bikes are loaded with electronics(sensors), there is a chance of a false reading.
Normally 3000 km is too less of a mileage, especially on a bike with low mileage on the odo to find oil consumption (leaky valves or worn bore/rings are not common occurrence if maintained correctly) or oil wearing out (considering you run the 7100). I have seen folks who rip (100+ kmph) consistently on the highway and also folks like me who do spirited riding around in the city/traffic and there is almost nil oil consumption (even now on my 22k km run d200).
The right way to check the engine oil is mentioned in the manual. all you need to do is let the bike idle for a minute or two and shut if down, wait for 30 seconds and look at the oil sight glass with the bike upright (ask someone to hold it, and not on side or paddock stand). It should show close to the upper '-' mark (i.e. above the midway between the lower and upper '-') and on a cold engine it will be a little above the upper '-' mark.

Recently fellow member @Ajay Vishwanath had a break down one early morning at his office.. the bike refused to start and there was a pool of oil on the floor. I went over and checked it, it turned out be a lose ignition coil wire (bike fired up after tapping it with an extended juggad spanner set up.. faired bikes are so hard to work on) and the oil leak was from the oil filter cap area due to a bad o ring. Since the RC has a faring, some oil is initially collected in the fairing belly pan area before it starts to drip down. He was very lucky that I was able to buy a bottle of engine oil at 4 am in the morning . Thanks to a 24hrs Bharat petroleum bunk that saved the day and sold me a bottle of mak 20w40 4t oil. The bike took in approx 400ml oil (the sight glass initially showed almost below the lower '-' mark). So it means even though the oil level was below the lower mark, there was still around 1 litre of oil in the crank case.

And remember in emergencies you don't have to put in 'motul'.. any decent Xw40 or Xw50 oil would do. in fact even a xW30 is ok provided you ride out slowly till you reach the closest workshop. remember.. any oil is better than no oil. When you top up oil, always pour in little at a time and check to avoid over filling.

Get the bike warm and then rev it up to around 7000 rpm a few times on neutral and observe for smoke from the exhaust. Blue smoke indicates oil burning. Then have the oil drained in to an empty container and measured at the svc. That will give you a rough idea on the oil consumption.
Next have them open the air filter box and check if there is any blow by (oily residue in the air filter box)
And finally for a peace of mind, change the oil , oil filter and the oil filter housing O ring (don't skimp of a 10rs O ring during service/oil change).. just ask them to tilt the bike a bit to remove as much oil as possible. And fill up the recommended quantity. Next ask them to connect their diagnostic device and read out any errors and clear the Dtc's.
Observe over the next few days for oil consumption/leaks and warning messages.