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  • rsk_kelkar
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by BlackPanther View Post
    Adjusted the tappet gap for the first time in 44K Kms.

    Input was changed from 0.04 to 0.06
    Output was changed from 0.06 to 0.09

    Now the noise seems to be increased. My bike sound like the timing chain has worn out all of a sudden.

    My question: is 0.06 & 0.09 not an acceptable setting for GS ?

    I made sure that the "T" mark was visible on the inspection window while rotating the crankshaft and also the tappets had some play (TDC of compression stroke).

    Apart from the play, how do we ensure that the we are adjusting the tappet clearance during the compression stroke ? Any visible identifications on the cam chain sprocket ?
    From the symptom you mentioned I quite suspect the right TDC was not set.

    For our 4-stroke engine Top Dead Center(TDC) will occur twice in one combustion cycle. i.e. you will be able to see the 'T' mark twice in once combustion cycle 1) at the end of compression stroke 2) at the end of exhaust stroke. You want to set your valve clearances at the end of compression stroke (When both valves are closed) and not exhaust (When exhaust valve might not be fully closed)

    See four-stroke engine Wikipedia for a nice animation.

    Try the entire operation again with addition of a small check as below:
    1) Ensure 'T' mark visible in the magneto cover inspection window
    2) Move the valve tappets by hand and notice the play
    3) Rotate the crank by 360 degress till you see 'T' mark again
    4) Move the valve tappets by hand and notice the play.
    5) If the play in step 4 is more than that in step 2 continue with adjusting the gap to suitable value now.
    5) If you feel play was more in step 2 than that in step 4, rotate the crank by 360 degrees again and continue adjusting the gap to suitable value.

    Recommended valve clearances
    Intake: 0.04-0.07 mm
    Exhaust: 0.10 to 0.15 mm

    P.S. Valve clearance adjustment should be done in cold state only.

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  • Freak inExile
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Originally posted by BlackPanther View Post
    Adjusted the tappet gap for the first time in 44K Kms.

    Input was changed from 0.04 to 0.06
    Output was changed from 0.06 to 0.09

    Now the noise seems to be increased. My bike sound like the timing chain has worn out all of a sudden.
    For the first time as in DIY or bike's service life?
    Did you perform it on cold-engine(off for over say 5 hours)?
    I assumed that clearances increase over period of usage/service. How come your's were so tight/close?

    Intake : 0.05 mm
    Exhaust : 0.12 mm
    are nominal I suppose.

    Ride the motorcycle for 20 kms to give it a proper warm-up then check for the noises.


    @rsk_kelkar did it a few months ago.

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  • BlackPanther
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Adjusted the tappet gap for the first time in 44K Kms.

    Input was changed from 0.04 to 0.06
    Output was changed from 0.06 to 0.09

    Now the noise seems to be increased. My bike sound like the timing chain has worn out all of a sudden.

    My question: is 0.06 & 0.09 not an acceptable setting for GS ?

    I made sure that the "T" mark was visible on the inspection window while rotating the crankshaft and also the tappets had some play (TDC of compression stroke).

    Apart from the play, how do we ensure that the we are adjusting the tappet clearance during the compression stroke ? Any visible identifications on the cam chain sprocket ?

    Leave a comment:


  • ashwanth.r
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Replies inline in blue.

    Originally posted by deemash View Post

    1. What type of Engine oil do you guys prefer for your GS ? Any specific oil that is good ?

    Most of us use 10W-40/15W-40/20W-40. None of us used 10W-30 (the SVC can fill this by mistake or with intention when xW-40 is unavailable but that oil from Suzuki/Castrol is for their scooters). Worldwide, most Suzuki motorcycle engines are recommended 10W-40 -> xW-40 is the best for their engines and for our hotter days. The owner's manual allows for the use of xW-50 too if xW-40 is unavailable.

    When selecting an oil, just make sure you buy the original brand from a authorized distributor/reputed shop. I have used Servo 20W-40 from IOL pumps and have no complaints. Suzuki mentions a minimum of JASO MA/API SH/SJ. The higher the oil in API ladder, better the thermal breakdown resistance. The latest is JASO MA2 and API SN (I think Shell AX-7 10W-40 and Valvoline 20W-40 are API SN oils). Most others are API SL which should be fine.

    Brandwise, the favorites among GS'pians here are Castrol, Shell and Gulf. There are many other very good brands like Motul and Mobil.

    Remember this: Original make, correct grade, correct level, regular changes along with oil filter and meeting minimum requirements (JASO/API) will suffice.


    2. What could be the cause of Stator coil failure ? In most forums, I learnt that the life of this coil comes to 1 Lakh kms.

    Actually, it might be easily more than 1 lakh kilometers (Fiero/Joy/Dawn/Splendors/GS), because this part unlike a piston-piston ring-cylinder-valve combo, this doesn't wear itself out due to friction. One can't really say why it failed early in your bike (I still don't know whether to blame that fall on a rainy night).

    3. My another problem is the cylinder and piston is weak. So keeping a tab on the Engine oil level weekly.
    All these things happening on a ~40k run 1.5 years old bike.

    SVC guy told you piston/cylinder is weak? If it drinks oil, there would be whitish/bluish smoke too and spark plug would be able to tell the truth.

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  • deemash
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    Re: Suzuki GS150R

    Got my bike after Stator coil replaced. The part cost was 800 INR. Altogether including oil change, the bill came to 1600 INR.

    1. What type of Engine oil do you guys prefer for your GS ? Any specific oil that is good ?
    2. What could be the cause of Stator coil failure ? In most forums, I learnt that the life of this coil comes to 1 Lakh kms.
    3. My another problem is the cylinder and piston is weak. So keeping a tab on the Engine oil level weekly.

    All these things happening on a ~40k run 1.5 years old bike.
    Last edited by deemash; 05-23-2016, 01:58 PM.

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