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**Febjos2966** · 09-05-2019, 03:36 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by Ijs View Post

Did they check front forks alignment and coneset bearing. Sounds like a fork alignment issue if not the wheel and tyre.
I had the wobble at high speed leaning but it was resolved after alignment/truing of both front and rear wheel.
Also make sure to get the wheel balanced on a balancing stand after the truing(spokes alignment) and make sure you are not missing the pre installed weight. While getting the balancing done remove the pre installed weights.
But my guess is still with fork alignment or coneset bearing.

They had cross checked every measurement "twice" and the measure's where always within limits. Hence they decided to check the tyre and found it as the culprit!. But the chance's of getting a problematic Tyre again doesn't make sense

. I was in the RE service center for 4 consecutive weekends to solve this issue and still not resolved.

**Ijs** · 09-05-2019, 03:44 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by Febjos2966 View Post

They had cross checked every measurement "twice" and the measure's where always within limits. Hence they decided to check the tyre and found it as the culprit!. But the chance's of getting a problematic Tyre again doesn't make sense

. I was in the RE service center for 4 consecutive weekends to solve this issue and still not resolved.

Then chek then inner collar/ edges of the rim and scrub clean with mild sand paper , high possibility that tyre bead is not properly seating on the rim. And yes it should not be the case to get a problematic tyre again. Usually when we have the tube inside the tubeless tyre the bead can not seat properly in place one prime reason could possibly some surface issue on the rim.

**surencameo** · 09-05-2019, 04:49 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by Febjos2966 View Post

Even i have faced the same issue of handle bar wobble.I got my bike delivered on April and now i have covered 8K .I had to visit Teknik Motors(Indira Nagar) thrice and still they couldn't find the issue. On further escalation and producing a video to service center and in YouTube and in twitter, RE reached out and the Project Manager(Nikhil) himself came down to check on the bike. Further they replaced the front tyre(at 6.5Km).They where planning a meet with the Pirelli team on the issue. However, Now again i am facing the same issue but in much lesser amplitude. I think RE still Needs to figure out what is happening to their flagship. Also,since the bike is providing such a good experience in every other terms (Performance,refinement)i expect RE to figure this out !!
Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Jto5aAY4k

Same blood pal!!!

I too emailed RE on this matter once I left the bike in the service center and a senior person from their HO called me back and assured me they will do everything to fix it and the service in-charge person in Coimbatore RE service also was so cooperative but the issue is they still could not find the cause after all they could do and also replaced the tyre after 4.5k KMs. I still strongly believe the Pirelli tyre to be the issue and the replaced tyre also could be of the same batch. Also I feel this to be a manufacturing defect for all INT 650s and most of the owners would not have checked this yet. Please other INT 650 owners just check and confirm if this issue is present after 60-70 KMPH. Just remove both you hand from the handlebar grips just a few secs and see if your handlebar starts to wobble. This will be in high intensity so please be careful and cautious. Keep your hands just an inch away and check. We can at least conclude this could be the issue for certain batch of bikes. Thank you.

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Originally posted by Ijs View Post

Did they check front forks alignment and coneset bearing. Sounds like a fork alignment issue if not the wheel and tyre.
I had the wobble at high speed leaning but it was resolved after alignment/truing of both front and rear wheel.
Also make sure to get the wheel balanced on a balancing stand after the truing(spokes alignment) and make sure you are not missing the pre installed weight. While getting the balancing done remove the pre installed weights.
But my guess is still with fork alignment or coneset bearing.

They have checked everything including the wheel bearing. The bike was with them for a week and they were struggling what to do as they could not find out the cause nor answer me. Please note that this service center is RE company owned and has all the facilities with senior technicians and bikes with major issues are sent to this service center from other dealer service centers and nearby cities/state.

Finally I myself took the bike back after tyre change as I did not want my bike to stay in the service center idle for that long weekend due to vinayagar chathurthi holiday. They asked me to bring it back so they can call technicians from Chennai HO to check on the issue but I do not want my vehicle to be a test mouse and be messed up. They already messed my front brake disc when refitting the front wheel and caused a streak mark on the disc due to jammed brake and replaced new front brake disc. I am sort of frightened to leave the bike to service center now

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Originally posted by Ijs View Post

Then chek then inner collar/ edges of the rim and scrub clean with mild sand paper , high possibility that tyre bead is not properly seating on the rim. And yes it should not be the case to get a problematic tyre again. Usually when we have the tube inside the tubeless tyre the bead can not seat properly in place one prime reason could possibly some surface issue on the rim.

I believe these are things to be checked by the manufacturer before launching any product through R&D or at least find these issues during QC checks and fix it before selling it to the customers. We checking on inner collar, edge, scrubbing and cleaning etc is not supposed to be the customer's work. I have already owned 2 REs prior (Classic 500 2011 and Thunderbird 500 2017, both new) and sold off both at half the price after 1 year of ownership due to EFI and other issues. I promised to myself not to come back to RE again in my life but this 650 Twins blew me away with it's value for money twin cylinder 650 cc segment. I still do not regret on the performance or engine.

**Gordon Freeman** · 09-05-2019, 08:23 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Do you guys feel a slight buzz or vibration at 2500-2600RPM?
I feel it more if I accelarate slowly, and they dont appear before the said RPM and disappears to dead silent as it reaches 3000.

Note: The same was enquired on a different forum as well, and one of them have felt the same.
Can any more members confirm the same?

Regards...

**B7ACKTHORN** · 09-05-2019, 10:06 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by surencameo View Post

Hi everyone, booked the INT 650 ravishing red on Dec 28, 2018 and got it delivered on Feb 14, 2019 through RE company store, Coimbatore and the whole buying and ownership experience was wonderful. I have clocked around 4500 kms till date and recently after reading about the handlebar wobble past 60-70 kmph, I just wanted to try it and to my shock found the handlebar to wobble very vigorously past 60-70 kmph when I remove my hands off the handlebar. With my hands on, there is no problem. I was surprised and shocked and immediately took it to the service center. They test rode it and confirmed the wobble and did wheel balancing, alignment, test rides, etc etc and finally changed the front tyre on warranty. The bike was in company service center for almost a week for analyzing the issue. I thought it would be fine after the tyre change but to my surprise it is still present the same way after 60-70 kmph. They have not found the cause yet and I am reluctant to leave my motorcycle again to the service center as they may keep it there for analyzing the issue for an indefinite time period. I agree RE service is far better now and their response and service is satisfactory but I think the motorcycle itself has this manufacturing defect and they are unable to find the cause. I doubt this wobble starts post 4000 km in the odo and the Pirelli tyres to be the culprit.

Does anyone else face the same issue and is there any solution for this problem? I find this a rare case and unable to take it an ordinary issue. Please help.

Thank you so much.

For some reason, RE still seems to have not gotten the know-how to execute a properly working fuel gauge right from Himalayan to the Interceptor 650. Secondly, the wobbles you face are purely due to the rake angle of the bike. It's basically a cafe racer with bits and pieces added to look like a retro classic machine. The wobble you experience, I did face upwards of 80 kmph. You do feel a mild weave. I don't own a 650, but I did have the opportunity to own it for a week, a couple of months back. I would still say, it's a lovely 650 cc motor, practical and comparatively frugal. But definitely not meant for pillion comfort or rider comfort when taking the long route, that's one.

Secondly, since you guys have checked almost everything including tire replacement. Poor tire pressure or too high a tire pressure to can induce speed wobbles, and so is a loose T stem or a Tight T stem, both can and will cause wobbles above or below a certain speed. If you haven't considered adjusting your T stem, I'd recommend you to adjust and check if necessary. Take it your friendly local mechanic, have him adjust your T stem and do a speed run and check if it helps.

Keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

**surencameo** · 09-06-2019, 01:21 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

For some reason, RE still seems to have not gotten the know-how to execute a properly working fuel gauge right from Himalayan to the Interceptor 650. Secondly, the wobbles you face are purely due to the rake angle of the bike. It's basically a cafe racer with bits and pieces added to look like a retro classic machine. The wobble you experience, I did face upwards of 80 kmph. You do feel a mild weave. I don't own a 650, but I did have the opportunity to own it for a week, a couple of months back. I would still say, it's a lovely 650 cc motor, practical and comparatively frugal. But definitely not meant for pillion comfort or rider comfort when taking the long route, that's one.

Secondly, since you guys have checked almost everything including tire replacement. Poor tire pressure or too high a tire pressure to can induce speed wobbles, and so is a loose T stem or a Tight T stem, both can and will cause wobbles above or below a certain speed. If you haven't considered adjusting your T stem, I'd recommend you to adjust and check if necessary. Take it your friendly local mechanic, have him adjust your T stem and do a speed run and check if it helps.

Keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

The tire pressure is perfect and I use N2 and check it every week while refueling and keep it at 32 psi front and 36 psi back and find no major pressure loss except for 1 or 2 psi. Due to this doubt I checked for the wobble just after checking tyre pressure and to my disappointment it happened. They have not checked the T stem yet and I will check it as you suggested with a local mechanic. RE service does not take our recommendations and will start again from wheel alignment etc and stall the bike there for days.

Also, I find my front brake effect to be dull with lesser bite after the disc change due to jammed brake during wheel fitment after checking the wobble issue. They replaced the front disc. Any suggestion on this please as I felt the brake was crisp and precise before and needed very less effort just using the one finger but now I feel otherwise with putting more effort and lacking the bite. Should I do anything or its just the new disc? Help please.

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Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

For some reason, RE still seems to have not gotten the know-how to execute a properly working fuel gauge right from Himalayan to the Interceptor 650. Secondly, the wobbles you face are purely due to the rake angle of the bike. It's basically a cafe racer with bits and pieces added to look like a retro classic machine. The wobble you experience, I did face upwards of 80 kmph. You do feel a mild weave. I don't own a 650, but I did have the opportunity to own it for a week, a couple of months back. I would still say, it's a lovely 650 cc motor, practical and comparatively frugal. But definitely not meant for pillion comfort or rider comfort when taking the long route, that's one.

Secondly, since you guys have checked almost everything including tire replacement. Poor tire pressure or too high a tire pressure to can induce speed wobbles, and so is a loose T stem or a Tight T stem, both can and will cause wobbles above or below a certain speed. If you haven't considered adjusting your T stem, I'd recommend you to adjust and check if necessary. Take it your friendly local mechanic, have him adjust your T stem and do a speed run and check if it helps.

Keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

Also just to add, the wobble is "definitely not MILD WEAVE. It is a vigorous shaking of the handle bar. I also noted from day one that the tyre going wobbly and slippery when we ride on the white markings on the road at any speed. I have never experienced this on any other bikes I had before. This makes me more suspicious on the Pirelli tyres provided in this machine. Please clarify if any other cause for this. Thank you.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 09-06-2019, 02:31 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by surencameo View Post

The tire pressure is perfect and I use N2 and check it every week while refueling and keep it at 32 psi front and 36 psi back and find no major pressure loss except for 1 or 2 psi. Due to this doubt I checked for the wobble just after checking tyre pressure and to my disappointment it happened. They have not checked the T stem yet and I will check it as you suggested with a local mechanic. RE service does not take our recommendations and will start again from wheel alignment etc and stall the bike there for days.

One or two PSI for a week here and there, isn't a major problem per se. The reason why I mentioned local mechanic is precisely the reason you mentioned, they start from the beginning and the more the bike stays in a SVC for a problem, the more hard time it will have, at least from an RE experience. Start off by inspecting your T stem and keep your observations posted.

Originally posted by surencameo View Post

Also, I find my front brake effect to be dull with lesser bite after the disc change due to jammed brake during wheel fitment after checking the wobble issue. They replaced the front disc. Any suggestion on this please as I felt the brake was crisp and precise before and needed very less effort just using the one finger but now I feel otherwise with putting more effort and lacking the bite. Should I do anything or its just the new disc? Help please.

I might be wrong, and clueless here, but I am wondering why they replaced your brake rotor for a brake jam issue. Usually a jammed brake is either due to a faulty caliper pistons and or jammed master cylinder. A brand new rotor has no point to be replaced, unless it's warped or something like that. But again, I can't comment since we don't know what the condition of the rotor was. A new rotor would take some time to bed in. I would also suggest, you remove your front brake pad, glaze it with mild sand paper and then install it back, a local mechanic can do this for you, as the calipers are basically similar to that of a Pulsar 220, so any local mech will be able to do the procedure glazing procedure.

Do this procedure and keep your observations posted.

Originally posted by surencameo View Post

Also just to add, the wobble is "definitely not MILD WEAVE. It is a vigorous shaking of the handle bar. I also noted from day one that the tyre going wobbly and slippery when we ride on the white markings on the road at any speed. I have never experienced this on any other bikes I had before. This makes me more suspicious on the Pirelli tyres provided in this machine. Please clarify if any other cause for this. Thank you.

The tires shouldn't be a problem per se, as there aren't any trouble reports abroad. But you just never know.

Good luck.

Cheers!
VJ

**surencameo** · 09-06-2019, 02:52 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by Gordon Freeman View Post

Do you guys feel a slight buzz or vibration at 2500-2600RPM?
I feel it more if I accelarate slowly, and they dont appear before the said RPM and disappears to dead silent as it reaches 3000.

Note: The same was enquired on a different forum as well, and one of them have felt the same.
Can any more members confirm the same?

Regards...

Hi, I have not felt any vibration and feel the throttle to be more free with smoother revs after the ECU update which was done with my 5K check-up service. Please try that.

Except for the handlebar wobble post 70 kmph, inaccurate fuel gauge, tyre slipping on the white paint on roads, and our shoe touching the left mid silencer pipe while opening the side stand which makes a mark on the silencer, I did not find any fault with my INT 650 so far.

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Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

One or two PSI for a week here and there, isn't a major problem per se. The reason why I mentioned local mechanic is precisely the reason you mentioned, they start from the beginning and the more the bike stays in a SVC for a problem, the more hard time it will have, at least from an RE experience. Start off by inspecting your T stem and keep your observations posted.

I might be wrong, and clueless here, but I am wondering why they replaced your brake rotor for a brake jam issue. Usually a jammed brake is either due to a faulty caliper pistons and or jammed master cylinder. A brand new rotor has no point to be replaced, unless it's warped or something like that. But again, I can't comment since we don't know what the condition of the rotor was. A new rotor would take some time to bed in. I would also suggest, you remove your front brake pad, glaze it with mild sand paper and then install it back, a local mechanic can do this for you, as the calipers are basically similar to that of a Pulsar 220, so any local mech will be able to do the procedure glazing procedure.

Do this procedure and keep your observations posted.

The tires shouldn't be a problem per se, as there aren't any trouble reports abroad. But you just never know.

Good luck.

Cheers!
VJ

I will check this and post my findings soon.

When I took delivery after the tyre change it was around 7:30 pm closing time and bit dark. I noticed a broad streaking line in the center on the inner side of the front brake disk and inquired about this to a service guy but he told all bikes have this blah blah but I was not convinced but had to take the bike and left. But before 100-200 meters, I found the bike struggling and stopped at a signal and switched off the bike and tried to move the bike sitting and pushing it but could not move an inch. I got off and put the center stand and tried to rotate the front wheel but it was jammed. So immediately took the bike back to service before they could close and left it there. Next day they told the streak was due to jammed brake and changed the front brake disc on warranty. They were also checking on the wheel bearing, wheel alignment, wheel balancing, etc when I went next day evening. Somehow they messed it up but changed the brake disc and now the wheel is freely rotating but I feel the brake and bite less effective compared to prior. I too feel removing the brake pads and glazing it should solve the issue. I will do that and update you guys.

Maybe domestic tyres are different!!! We do not know but you can try any 650 twin on the white markers on the road and feel the unstableness which I have never experienced before with other bikes.

**s1d** · 09-06-2019, 04:12 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by surencameo View Post

We do not know but you can try any 650 twin on the white markers on the road and feel the unstableness which I have never experienced before with other bikes.

that is normal, the painted markings are slippery ,even more so in the wet. stay clear of them or slow down when approaching such markings.
the wobble could be due to the tire, rim/spokes (not true/loose spokes) or wheel balance usually. make sure the wheel is installed properly, not over tightened and the axle is not bent.
even with a slightly shot coneset a bike should track straight on a flat road when you take the hands of the bar at 70 kmph . Either these or its due to the design/rake/geometry of the bike itself.

as for your brakes, clean the rotor with dishwash soapy water, maybe remove the pads and rub them down on sand paper.. then overnight leave the brake lever tied down to the handle bar (So that any air in the line escapes up to the master cylinder).. you could use a zip tie or a piece of rope to press n tie the lever down. braking should be back to normal after using the brakes a few times to let the pads/rotor bed in.

**RR310** · 09-06-2019, 08:18 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Friends, I bought an Interceptor 650 Orange Crush. Delivery planned on 8 Sept Sunday Morning. Eagerly waiting. Mine is a 18 Aug Manufactured Bike so hope most of issues reported may have been ironed out. Been reading stories of long Waiting periods.
Here is my Interceptor Story.

I am 5"7 and 102 Kgs, aged 36. I went into the showroom, saw Orange I650, enquired about it and booked it. Down Payment made and Loan sanctioned. No waiting at all for me.
I already have 2 Scooters and an Apache RR310. Somehow I wanted something big, powerful and a comfortable Bike. I am using RR310 as a lifestyle vehicle, cannot ride for long distances. While sipping a cup of tea, thought of selling of one scooter and getting a big Bike. Checked out Leoncino, Triumph Street Twin, TNT 600 and I650. Leoncino did not connect with me, Triumph 2019 version somehow ergonomics were not correct for me (2018 was excellent for me but I missed it), TNT600 I could not flat foot, I took 3 test drives of I650 loved it from all angles. Looked best part of Street Twin, some modifications will make it look similar.

Somehow in my big bike purchase the Interceptor 650 kept popping up (such is the pull of the price factor). Eventually decided to get one and booked a Baker Express with 45 days waiting period. But this bug of a big bike wanting soon was constant so entered another RE Showroom and voila an Orange Crush which came on 3 Sep was readily available (an 18 AUG 2019 Manufactured Bike at Pre Hiked Price).

Accessories Bought from RE

Windscreen.
Engine Guard
Sump Guard
Bar End Weights (black)

Accessories planned

Pillion Backrest
Something for both Silencers to save the Pillion Footwear.
Headlight (Been researching a lot. Somehow the Headlamp Assembly of Bajaj CT100 looks like perfect fit and Size. It has clear lens as well). Not a fan of those Aftermarket LED Lights.
Taillight Assembly from Himalayan.
LED Front and Rear Indicator from KTM.
Water Proof Clock on the Handlebar.
3M Paint Protection Film.
White Vinyl on the Fuel Tank to resemble Baker express (Instead of White and Red Combination I want to have White and Orange Combination)
Brake and Gear Lever Protector just like KTM.
Handlebar Risers about 1 Inch.
Seat Modification (want to make it a bit wider at the base just like Classic and raise the Pillion seat a bit).

Will keep your posted on the Purchase and the Ownership experience.
Can someone add me to the Interceptor 650 Whatsapp Group?

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**Sudhanshu K** · 09-07-2019, 09:38 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

I urge everyone to please check their fuel lid gasket. I used to smell petrol around my bike usually and just noticed that my gasket was crumbling so soon. This can be disastrous if someone is smoking nearby.

**RR310** · 09-08-2019, 02:33 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Got my INT650 today. Rode for 10 kms from showroom to home. Rest of the points keeping aside, the Seat felt hard. I am 102 kgs. The seat is firm. Sat for 30 minutes. Did not feel like touching the frame. Mine is Aug manufactured bike. Did RE incorporate feedback about the seat?

Anyone who recently got their bike confirm?

Can someone help me adding to INT650 WhatsApp group. I will pm my number.

**RR310** · 09-09-2019, 04:18 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Day 2: Heart Broken, my Bike tipped over (not because of the footpegs). I lost Balance while it was standstill. No damages, Engine guard took the weight and suffered scratches.

Additional work done:
1. 3M PPF for the Tank, side panels. I was given complementary headlight ppf. Will get it done after LED swap. Total Rs. 3900+ 1000 + 1000.

**Ijs** · 09-09-2019, 04:38 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

Originally posted by RR310 View Post

Day 2: Heart Broken, my Bike tipped over (not because of the footpegs). I lost Balance while it was standstill. No damages, Engine guard took the weight and suffered scratches.

Additional work done:
1. 3M PPF for the Tank, side panels. I was given complementary headlight ppf. Will get it done after LED swap. Total Rs. 3900+ 1000 + 1000.

Good that it is fine. Contact your local dealer for the WhatsApp group . Re has officially created these groups state wise.

**Laserdance1982** · 09-09-2019, 08:10 PM

Re: Interceptor 650 Twin

I got delivery of my Baker Express Done 130 kms so far . That sound track of the exhaust is just right and soulful !!!

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