KTM Adventure 390 Ownership Thread

[vishnukuttan1988]

A bit off-topic!!

I assume standard warranty for the 390Adv is 2 years, request you make note that any warranty parts replaced are tracked in job card, the same updated in KTM portal and it should reflect in your KTM Assist mobile app under your bike service details. If not, do push and pressure your SVC to update the same.
KTM SVC's are known to do such shady under the table replacement jobs without keeping a track or updating in the KTM one portal.

Also if you can do push for free warranty extension for extra 1 or 2 years, being the 1st batch of 390Adv's are known to have plagued with various issues, ECU failure error, MTC failure error, water leaking into tail lights, dead pixels in LCD display, burnt LED light segments.

So being the early adopter, touch wood but for most of the times you do the job beta tester being the early adopter, it'd be good to be covered against these in future. KTM did offer free 2 years of warranty extension to 1st year batch of bikes for 2017 KTM normal D390 from 2017-2018 buyers owners due to various issues. Hope the same can be claimed for 390 Adv's.

Had thought of the niggles that may arise in the first batch. Had thus got 3 year extended warranty that they were offering for free in September,2020. 😊

[sivigshankar]

I am finding it odd that a KTM 390 adventure ownership review thread has so less reviews and posts. Am I in the right thread ? Or is there another one hiding somewhere out here..

[kiran2508]

I am finding it odd that a KTM 390 adventure ownership review thread has so less reviews and posts. Am I in the right thread ? Or is there another one hiding somewhere out here..

Traffic on this site has reduced significantly post COVID, due to not much riding that's happening I believe.

But if you are looking for 390 ADV ownership thread, better look at other Bhp forum, there ownership thread is almost 40 pages long and they all are pretty much active there.

[peoplearemirrors]

Hi folks!
Lets make a KTM 390 ADV Whatsapp or telegram group?
My bike always turns off in 1 or 2 gear at city traffic, any one else faced the same issue?

[roadd3m0n]

Are you on low rpm in city traffic. Also check check the quickshifter setting.

[pinkesh2703]

Currently I own CBR 250r. I own it from last 4 & half years, odo is 64000 kms. Now I want to upgrade to Adv 250 or Adv 390. Main reason is the relaxed riding posture of Adv siblings.
I ride mostly on road n in hilly areas. Off roading is very minimal. My ave crusing speed is btwn 90-110. If I get open road then go above 120 for fun but that's not more often.
Now Adv 390 is little bit out of budget but I can adjust it. But my concern is that do I really need Adv 390 or Adv 250 is enough for me being a CBR owner?

[roadd3m0n]

Well speaking of the ADv 390 there is a short learning curve with the bike. The way the bike behaves is quite different ..You would certainly love this bike.

[Manoj Sivaraman]

Hi everyone,

I'm pretty new to ADV ownership thread, owning a 2020 OCT gen 1 ADV390.
Would love to share certain critical stuff I noted with the ADV390, It might get a little technical from here.

Cylinder kit update...

So there is this issue of oil burn/consumption across the 390 platform which I wanted to share here for a long time. This is across 390 platforms DUKE/RC/ADV, right from OCT 2020 least that's when I started noticing complaints across owners in India. No matter how sane you keep the throttle. Yes, the oil burn is very evident. When asked at ASC we got a reply that its normal to lose up to 50ml every 1000kms. Which was a case for a 50k clocked bikes.

So the lame reason given by ASC, that made me think of all possible reasons for some months were:
i) Possible valve stem seal wear (quality/material change)
ii) There was a oil wiper rings part update in the past but it was way back in 2015.
iii) Oil leak from shift shaft oil seal.
iv) Oil leak from output shaft seals.

A lil history:
There was a view that the 390 block piston assy. (OLD CYL assy. PART No. - 36JP0031) is very pricy. At least that's what Indian buyers were ranting about when bike needs a replacement. The cost was approximately under 16000/- INR (i.e - 197USD, 189EUR approx. conversion). For a Liner less NiKaSil Vacuum cast block combined forged piston with a hard anodizing and Grafal coated skirts the pricing is very much relatable. The cylinder block was manufactured in India, but the pistons(OLD PISTON PART No. - JY521214) and rings were done at ELKO Konig, Austria (https://www.elko-koenig.com/porducts/pistons/?lang=en) . So all the import cost and taxes made the piston prices to increase.

OLD part number and MRP

GREY colored hard anodized forged piston.

Now the Actual reason:
KTM updated the cylinder kit I guess from October 2020 or something to (UPDATED CYL assy. PART No. - 36JY0251). approx. price was 8200/- (i.e - 101 USD, 97EUR).
Now this kit comes with a localized made in India pistons Sriram Pistons (https://shrirampistons.com/). (NEW PISTON PART No. JY521223). This is also a forged unit but it lost the hard anodization on the surface, different metallurgy even.

NEW PART NUMBER

SILVER COLORED Non Anodized Pistons.

The new one comes with the corrugated oil scrapper ring spacer and two thin scraper rings VS The old one came with spring wire, spring behind the single piece oil scraper ring.
This change right outta the box was shitty and every bike has this oil consumption issue which KTM says its very normal which is BS in my opinion.

So if someone faces this issue try to find the old piston assy. and swap it out. You'll not have this issue of topping up frequently or wear the engine by running dry.
NOTE: Some of these images are from other Threads/forums. Some of their information regarding the same was a little misleading. Have compiled all the changes and this post clarifies all.(CREDITS to the respective image owners)
HOPE THIS HELPS

[Manoj Sivaraman]

Issues with low end hiccups and low end torque

There was a fuel hose update from a straight hose to a pre-bent hose.
Part number OLD - JG171819 to Part number NEW - JP171816.
Which prevent the hoses getting pinched when dropping the tank back in the bike. This was done for FOC.

There was a last update for the ECU ends with 503. That fixed the stalling issue by numbing the throttle closing factor by a bit, In layman now when we blip the throttle the RPM comes back to idle slowly.

The issue here was random stalling here and there was evident that is because of the ignition coil. So there are 3 versions of ignition coil part number starts with JG 2017 till 2019 oldest. Then JP03 2019 till 2021 I suppose. Now JP07 latest. I still don't understand is there any winding spec change between these 3. Since all these have very similar impedance when measured with a DMM. There are multiple design approaches when it comes to a HT coil. Apart from the part number change and certain engravings change on the body the part still remains physically same. So all the 3 are interchangeable. The issue here with JP03 coil is the HT cable was of shitty quality, replaced the cable with a Glass fiber braided oxygen free tin coated silicon insulated ones. along with NGK LKAR8AI-9 plugs.
Gone is the low end hiccups and hesitation in the throttle response.

[B7ACKTHORN]

There was a last update for the ECU ends with 503. That fixed the stalling issue by numbing the throttle closing factor by a bit, In layman now when we blip the throttle the RPM comes back to idle slowly.

The issue here was random stalling here and there was evident that is because of the ignition coil. So there are 3 versions of ignition coil part number starts with JG 2017 till 2019 oldest. Then JP03 2019 till 2021 I suppose. Now JP07 latest. I still don't understand is there any winding spec change between these 3. Since all these have very similar impedance when measured with a DMM. There are multiple design approaches when it comes to a HT coil. Apart from the part number change and certain engravings change on the body the part still remains physically same. So all the 3 are interchangeable. The issue here with JP03 coil is the HT cable was of shitty quality, replaced the cable with a Glass fiber braided oxygen free tin coated silicon insulated ones. along with NGK LKAR8AI-9 plugs.
Gone is the low end hiccups and hesitation in the throttle response.

Iridium plugs do make a difference, albeit not noticeable immediately, but over time one can feel the difference with the crispness of the motor and response. You've literally opened up Pandora's box of questions arising in my mind Manoj, and to start off, do you think 2015's HT coil, fuel pump and overall components were robust compared to the 2017 and later models. I see, you've shared great insights regarding the part numbers of HT coil and quality thereon, would love to get your perspective on this.

Also, are all these above mentioned HT coil part number/part available as we deem necessary? In other words, will they give a newer gen coil to affix it to an old bike instead of asking for a part number that originally belonged to its respective MY? And secondly, the cables of all the models right from inception replaceable/threaded in types and not fused, am I correct in thinking so, considering you've swapped it to a good quality insulated cable.

Lastly, you have a DM.

Cheers!
VJ

[Manoj Sivaraman]

Iridium plugs do make a difference, albeit not noticeable immediately, but over time one can feel the difference with the crispness of the motor and response. You've literally opened up Pandora's box of questions arising in my mind Manoj, and to start off, do you think 2015's HT coil, fuel pump and overall components were robust compared to the 2017 and later models. I see, you've shared great insights regarding the part numbers of HT coil and quality thereon, would love to get your perspective on this.

Also, are all these above mentioned HT coil part number/part available as we deem necessary? In other words, will they give a newer gen coil to affix it to an old bike instead of asking for a part number that originally belonged to its respective MY? And secondly, the cables of all the models right from inception replaceable/threaded in types and not fused, am I correct in thinking so, considering you've swapped it to a good quality insulated cable.

Lastly, you have a DM.

Cheers!
VJ

Since 2020 I've been closely monitoring the ADV390. I wanted to own one so I took my own sweet time to analyse what's wrong with the fueling etc. thanks to some of our xbhp members. Special thanks to Karthik he was one of the first ADV owner in my city. He faced tons of issues in the initial batch, that the ASC people were simply incapable of fixing. They didn't understand the root cause, just were beating around the bush. We escalated the issue till ASM and KTM India. All that he got was throttle body cleaning and sanding off at the fuse legs.
Wouldn't blame the ASC though because I've been a part of KTM in the past and I know how well they educate ASC people (pure sarcasm).

Regarding the HT coil...
Yeah all three models can be interchanged. I hope the older JG part number is no longer available. It was available till 2019 if I remember correctly.
Early JG models had issue of premature failure say it may fail in the 3rd year or so..
Then 2016+ till 2019 models had enjoyed the best ignition coils must say. I've personally worked on more than five MY16, MY17 and MY18 models, so is this conclusion.

Then 2019 JP03 started coming I suppose. I'm not sure what changes were made but till 2021 JP03 was the standard. May be someone who's bike ran fine can check the coil and provide their feedback here. Again I don't understand what change was done to JP07 model for 2021+ models.

Physically all three are same, visible changes were the part number stickers pasted. The HT cable quality degradation. All three are under the same impedance range for the primary and secondary circuit.
Since I don't have necessary equipments to measure HT output on secondary side. Can't comment on the output voltage or current rating.

Yes, you can install new gen coil in older bikes. You can mention the part number and get it over the counter.

From day one they had threaded ends at the coil and the plug caps. Wires are replaceable, yet KTM doesn't have a official part number listed for the HT cable.

[B7ACKTHORN]

Very much helpful Manoj. You've mentioned you did use " with a Glass fiber braided oxygen free tin coated silicon insulated ones. along with NGK LKAR8AI-9" was this NGK cable?

Cheers
VJ

[Manoj Sivaraman]

Very much helpful Manoj. You've mentioned you did use " with a Glass fiber braided oxygen free tin coated silicon insulated ones. along with NGK LKAR8AI-9" was this NGK cable?

Cheers
VJ

No no not a NGK. Was a custom cable

[B7ACKTHORN]

SCOOP!

Guess, this year started with a great bang and KTM have finally given heed.

2023 KTM 390 ADV Debuts – New Spoked Wheels, Colours





More info here: https://www.rushlane.com/2023-ktm-39...-12459473.html

Credits: Respective media houses.

Cheers!
VJ

[Crank49]

I was dormant for a long, and now it seems this thread which I looked into is dormant too. Can we revive discussions here?