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**Omega Man** · 02-03-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by pulsar_flame View Post

for this and all our govt will not fight..

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

don't be too happy since our government will not make this happen...our government earn huge profits by imposing various taxes on petrol ,diesel...

Originally posted by ksameer View Post

If this is true and sucha fuel manages to come to India, our govt. will make sure to tax it obscenely. This way, they will be able to proudly keep inflation at sky high levels.

On a serious note, I don't see this making much progress because this will bring OPEC countries on the streets from their Bugatti Veyrons. They are a big enough cartel and won't want to see their only source of income being obliterated.

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

+1. Government gets a big chunk of money by taxing the petrol. I am sure it will tax the same way and bring the final price to current petrol price.

I do not remember exactly the name of the English movie. The authorities do not want to disclose about a scientific discovery that creates free energy and they try to kill the scientist.

Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post

Lolz. Then govt will increase the tax imposed on SBKs!!

Originally posted by T-Bone View Post

This kind of petrol is quite far in reality if India is concerned. Due to its "Cheap" properties the parent companies currently operating in our country will suffer a lot towards which the government too earns its share by imposing taxes & finally declaring to the masses that its subsidized. Moreover, the world economically can experience a major change if Hydrogen comes to the rescue which will furthermore take 20 years to come to India. Seriously in my opinion the government will never take a step forward in this direction. Take an example of Solar Power, India receives about 27% of the sun's energy which is by far a lot as compared to the world, how much do we use it??? What is the government doing to promote this??? NOTHING!!! There are a few companies I saw operating in this field which is why its expensive!!!
The Conclusion - PETROL(Prices) WILL RISE!!!!!

Originally posted by ch.madhur View Post

Cheap in India, and thats also petrol,
Our Government simply hates this.

P.S. New tax schemes are coming soon

There we go GOVERNMENT bashing all over again.

Such hatred and Anti-Government sentiment for our government and yet we let ourselves to be governed by them. Why dont you guys do a Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen or a Jordan in India instead?

Pun intended, lest I be charged with sedition too.

Anyways, this low cost fuel is still at the research stage. Will take donkeys years to be implemented in the developed countries itself. That is, if the EV's (Electric Vehicles) or the HV's (Hydrogen Vehicles) do not become commercially viable until then. Nothing can change the subsidies or taxes on our fuels except revolutions like the ones in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen & Jordan, which is impossible to expect from us Indians???

**xoham** · 02-03-2011, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

don't be too happy since our government will not make this happen...our government earn huge profits by imposing various taxes on petrol ,diesel...

actually govt. became tired of giving lots of subsidies on petrol and mainly on diesel and few days ago haven't govt. withdrawn control on fixing petrol price!!

Rs.14/ltr??..Cheap Cheap Hurray....

**madhav krishna** · 02-03-2011, 11:16 PM

Perhaps between the complete hydrogen usage & complete petrol usage there is one more option also IMO. To avoid huge losses they may even blend both these fuels to regulate the fuel prices & keep the companies away from losses.

**salman.rvf** · 02-04-2011, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by madhav krishna View Post

Perhaps between the complete hydrogen usage & complete petrol usage there is one more option also IMO. To avoid huge losses they may even blend both these fuels to regulate the fuel prices & keep the companies away from losses.

These fuels cannot be blended.

**Blumarine005** · 02-04-2011, 12:48 AM

I do not remember exactly the name of the English movie. The authorities do not want to disclose about a scientific discovery that creates free energy and they try to kill the scientist.[/QUOTE]

The Chain Reaction...featuring Keanu Reeves and Morgan Freeman...The scientist is killed and Reeves is framed into the murder of the scientist.

**madhav krishna** · 02-04-2011, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by salman.rvf View Post

These fuels cannot be blended.

Why?? And how do you know about it??

**Blumarine005** · 02-04-2011, 01:27 AM

There we go GOVERNMENT bashing all over again. Such hatred and Anti-Government sentiment for our government and yet we let ourselves to be governed by them. Why dont you guys do a Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen or a Jordan in India instead? Pun intended, lest I be charged with sedition too.

Anyways, this low cost fuel is still at the research stage. Will take donkeys years to be implemented in the developed countries itself. That is, if the EV's (Electric Vehicles) or the HV's (Hydrogen Vehicles) do not become commercially viable until then. Nothing can change the subsidies or taxes on our fuels except revolutions like the ones in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen & Jordan, which is impossible to expect from us Indians??? [/QUOTE]

Thts true. We cannot blame the government only. Agreed that the government is implementing heavy taxes on petroleum products. But we should not only talk about the issue just for the sake of it. Its good that alternative fuel is been researched on. Although it may take some time to be implemented, may be it can help reducing the pollution issue. Further, I read in a magazine that the Americans already have tested electric bikes which can do speeds in excess of 100miles/hour. I don't remember the details since it was some time back. But yes, if we can get these machines in India, SBKs would become affordable for the enthusiasts who want to one but cannot due to high maintainace.

**princeot** · 02-17-2011, 05:59 PM

Petrol in PAKISTAN: INR17/litre
Petrol in MALAYSIA: INR18/litre
Petrol in Bangalore(INDIA): INR65/litre

IF THIS IS TAKEN CARE OF, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH

**dineshsamtani** · 02-17-2011, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by princeot View Post

Petrol in PAKISTAN: INR17/litre
Petrol in MALAYSIA: INR18/litre
Petrol in Bangalore(INDIA): INR65/litre

IF THIS IS TAKEN CARE OF, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH

Before accusing out Government for anything...here is a little exercise for you dude......

Run to the local cylinder shop and ask him how much does refilling a cylinder cost...ok?
The come read this article http://pakistannewsblog.com/2011/02/...-rs-10-per-kg/

and then talk about comparing the petrol prices in different countries.

In Pakistan, Govenment has given a subsidy on Petrol, in INDIA we have subsidized LPG (cooking gas - used in every home unlike PETROL/DIESEL).

It is for the benefit of Common Man, Petrol is a luxury, LPG at home is NOT.

So before knowing the entire facts, no one has the right to make any comparisons.

**princeot** · 02-17-2011, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by dineshsamtani View Post

Before accusing out Government for anything...here is a little exercise for you dude......

Run to the local cylinder shop and ask him how much does refilling a cylinder cost...ok?
The come read this article http://pakistannewsblog.com/2011/02/...-rs-10-per-kg/

and then talk about comparing the petrol prices in different countries.

In Pakistan, Govenment has given a subsidy on Petrol, in INDIA we have subsidized LPG (cooking gas - used in every home unlike PETROL/DIESEL).

It is for the benefit of Common Man, Petrol is a luxury, LPG at home is NOT.

So before knowing the entire facts, no one has the right to make any comparisons.

I'm not an idiot to write down whatever stuff that comes to mind.
i think 'you' need to do some research.
with all taxes whatsoever the actual price should never cross 40.
do you even know how the pricing system works?
considering you are from another state....you'll never know the inside story.
Oh! i know what to do....why don't you "RUN DOWN TO OUR CITY AND ASK?"

OH! and that last statement of yours......it implies to you too

**j4zb4** · 02-17-2011, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by dineshsamtani View Post

Before accusing out Government for anything...here is a little exercise for you dude......

Run to the local cylinder shop and ask him how much does refilling a cylinder cost...ok?
The come read this article http://pakistannewsblog.com/2011/02/...-rs-10-per-kg/

and then talk about comparing the petrol prices in different countries.

In Pakistan, Govenment has given a subsidy on Petrol, in INDIA we have subsidized LPG (cooking gas - used in every home unlike PETROL/DIESEL).

It is for the benefit of Common Man, Petrol is a luxury, LPG at home is NOT.

So before knowing the entire facts, no one has the right to make any comparisons.

Boy that is expensive cooking gas! even if you consider that 1INR = 2 PKR those are still double the prices...

Also hasn't our gov just recently stopped subsidized petrol? I think petrol and diesel were subsidized till now...

**dineshsamtani** · 02-17-2011, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by princeot View Post

I'm not an idiot to write down whatever stuff that comes to mind.
i think 'you' need to do some research.
with all taxes whatsoever the actual price should never cross 40.
do you even know how the pricing system works?
considering you are from another state....you'll never know the inside story.
Oh! i know what to do....why don't you "RUN DOWN TO OUR CITY AND ASK?"
OH! and that last statement of yours......it implies to you too

Firstly, i never called you or referred to you as AN IDIOT. You clarifications for the same raises doubts

Before talking about the pricing system and concluding to the price of 40 bucks by yourself, go understand the central and state government taxation rules, and if you are incapable of that, you can right a letter and seek that information under RTI act.

And for your kindest info, the different in prices between your city and mines is not more than a buck, and if you think that yours is the only city where the petrol is prices high, look around and you do the running to other cities.

The last statement very much applies to you as you tried to pull out the facts, i just gave you a point to consider, left the research and actualy figures open. So think again kido!

**dineshsamtani** · 02-17-2011, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by j4zb4 View Post

Boy that is expensive cooking gas! even if you consider that 1INR = 2 PKR those are still double the prices...

Also hasn't our gov just recently stopped subsidized petrol? I think petrol and diesel were subsidized till now...

Correct, the prices are double, if there are 1000 houses, 1000 houses would use LPG daily but 1000 wont use Petrol everyday, so the quantity of LPG spent is higher than of Petrol/Diesel.

Petrol and Diesel were partly subsidized by BP,HP Indian Oil. Shell lubricants was the only one not recieving that subsidy.

I dont say fuel is cheaper, but comparing the prices with other countries is ridiculous if you are not comparing the basic cost of living of a common man. (which does not include Petrol/Diesel)

**j4zb4** · 02-17-2011, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by princeot View Post

I'm not an idiot to write down whatever stuff that comes to mind.
i think 'you' need to do some research.
with all taxes whatsoever the actual price should never cross 40.
do you even know how the pricing system works?
considering you are from another state....you'll never know the inside story.
Oh! i know what to do....why don't you "RUN DOWN TO OUR CITY AND ASK?"

OH! and that last statement of yours......it implies to you too

Originally posted by dineshsamtani View Post

Firstly, i never called you or referred to you as AN IDIOT. You clarifications for the same raises doubts

Before talking about the pricing system and concluding to the price of 40 bucks by yourself, go understand the central and state government taxation rules, and if you are incapable of that, you can right a letter and seek that information under RTI act.

And for your kindest info, the different in prices between your city and mines is not more than a buck, and if you think that yours is the only city where the petrol is prices high, look around and you do the running to other cities.

The last statement very much applies to you as you tried to pull out the facts, i just gave you a point to consider, left the research and actualy figures open. So think again kido!

calm down people... We do not need to get sooo agitated... Its just a discussion...

**dineshsamtani** · 02-17-2011, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by j4zb4 View Post

calm down people... We do not need to get sooo agitated... Its just a discussion...

Yups it is,

I just wanted to convey the entire picture, so that baseless comparisons and allegations are not given too much focus.

Sorry if i came out harsh

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