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Atleast thats how it worked in Malaysia which is the only place I have used it...
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There's other countries in the planetOriginally posted by j4zb4 View PostAtleast thats how it worked in Malaysia which is the only place I have used it... This is how it works in some part of US (Troy, MI) apart from what you mentioned.
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i agree.. Imagine a bunch of drunk friends landing up at such a pump!!! and start playing with the petrol!!!Originally posted by diffuser911 View Post
Also what happens to the rule that bottled, or fuel in containers will not be filled and sold????
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I realised... Thats why I mentioned that... After your sarcasm...Originally posted by aargee View PostThere's other countries in the planet This is how it works in some part of US (Troy, MI) apart from what you mentioned.
but I think this is the ideal way...
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Interesting.But what is the point?
Just have guys there 24hrs!Smoke rubber,not tobacco.
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I dont think the guys at the pump cheat by NOT resetting to 0.Dont they rig the machine?Originally posted by eliksir View Postprobably everyone will reset to 0 before filling and will get the exact amount of fuel.Smoke rubber,not tobacco.
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*Bows down*Originally posted by aargee View PostI let you win; your's is ideal way; don't wanna argue on this anymore
But on a serious note... Are we, the Indian public, mature enough to be handed a fuel station to ourselves...?Last edited by j4zb4; 08-29-2011, 11:59 AM."stay hungry, stay foolish."
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There has to be some point to start, why not consider opportunity to start with? Maturity comes with experience; there will be initial hicups, but, we will learn eventually. If I'd such a fuel station that's less than 10 Kms from my home, I don't mind going there to refuel for my vehicles. I literally HATE the attendant based fuel station these days.Originally posted by j4zb4 View Post
They ask you to move front even before the guy in front of you has not closed the lid; they ask you to make way for someone behind you even before you close the lid; they don't like payments by cc; some of them don't fill to close paise but round of to nearest Re; some of them want to round up to the amount even if you don't have tank capacity. I'm tired of listening to these excuses!!!
BTW, I didn't talk about short fuelling tricks!!!Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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you are wrong.works on pre pay basis as said by jzb...Originally posted by ttusharz View Post
yes & no.Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
it's an old system we implemented 5 years back.but for reasons mentioned earlier w.r.t employment & customer benifit this mode is not activated
nothing related to honesty.checks & measures ensure payment.Originally posted by aargee View Post
OK.
since I handle one of the similar projects for an Oil company here's a few inputs:
the advantages are thus for manned or unmanned stations having automation:
To consumers:ffice
ffice" />- Assurance of quality and quantity of the product (fuel) being dispensed.
- Facility to use a variety of payment methods (cash, debit/credit card, loyalty card) right there at the pump
- Oil companies may even permit cashless transactions and self-service mode of operation by the vehicle owners.
- An extension of the automation system would also control the operations of the Convenience store located at the retail outlet, a car wash or any other value-add service that may be provided by the retail outlet dealer.
- Better retention / increase its market share through greater customer loyalty
- Ability to offer various loyalty programs to fleet owners
- Improvement in retail station operational efficiency and asset utilization
- Ability to study demand of various products and loads at various outlets to take tactical and strategic marketing decisions regarding petroleum retailing.
- Access to online data which will help monitor / prevent fraudulent practices.
- Identification of Attendants(DSM) for each transaction
- Any DSM can operate any pump with cash accountability for individual Transaction
- Accounting for each mode of payment; pump wise, DSM wise
- Reduction in fuelling transaction time for Customers paying through cards
- Credit Customer/ Big accounts billing Stock, sales, loss/gain.
- Banking reports.
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It works the same way you said in New Jersey, Chicago and Oklahoma as well.. I've been driving only in these 3 places. Not sure about rest.Originally posted by j4zb4 View PostAtleast thats how it worked in Malaysia which is the only place I have used it...MJ
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Hi DK,Originally posted by darkknight View Post
I'm not sure if that is the case. What if I want to make the tank full..not sure how much left in that tank. Wherever I traveled in US or Aus, you pay after you fill it (either by card or cash). The laws are so strict that you just can't run away from it (especially when you are not a resident).
Somewhere I feel that not all the stations will be unmanned. Only few of them in the pump will be auto the rest will be operated by attendants.
Also I believe all the auto pay station will be based on credit/debit card pay.Comment
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quite correct --post pay mode too works on the same principle as you apply in a retail store or a restaurant.Originally posted by abhijitkn View Post
that is the mode which is operational now--refer to coco rto in pune done by us --only in this case attendants are doing it & w.r.t unmanned stations you will need to do it.
for cash though you need to go & pay the cashier in the c store or otherwise.
the running away thing exists even now with all attendants in place -- you will be shocked to see that happens sometimes at retail outlets in india
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woohoo! I was part of a team that first piloted the prepaid cards based fuel pump infrastructre ages ago
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