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  • #31
    Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    I can't understand one thing. When I own a 2007 model Pulsar happily, and it has provided me all the reliability I needed, even on long trips, stunting, commuting, etc., why do you expect the new Bajaj bikes to have a problem in 2011?
    Wake up man. Its not 2003 whereby you can blame Pulsars in the matter of quality..

    Owners don't exactly have much of a big problem. Its these keyboard warriors doing all the bashing...
    Somebody please give this guy a Pulsar and send him to Himalayas... Then he'll know! And ask him which bikes are used in MTV Stuntmania...
    Well, the 2011 CBR250R does seem to have many issues. So, we just need to ignore the Bajaj bashers.
    Coming back to the topic, it is amazing, what Bajaj has achieved with in-house R&D. Hero might be getting the numbers thanks to its 100cc bikes but nobody can beat Bajaj for the sheer number of bikes it has launched. Pulsar has been launched with 6 variants (135,150,180,200,220FI,220) and has had an equal number of iterations till date.
    Discover has had 6 variants as well (125,112,135,150,100,125) with the initial 125 being different from the current one.
    All this in the span of less than a decade.
    Just hoping Bajaj keeps going ahead and we'll not have to look at the Japs as the benchmark for quality.
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    • #32
      Hero should stop spending on those stupid music albums and make proper ads ....(better they dont make any,they are insulting,what you call ads)
      Hats off to Bajaj,with just 3 products in market(pulsar,discover,avanger),they are standing right on the neck of Hero....
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      • #33
        I never knew Bajaj has only three products this is amazing!
        All the wise men of the world are called wise only after they spoke their mind, so dont keep the ideas to yourselves!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by sambit View Post
          Hero should stop spending on those stupid music albums and make proper ads ....(better they dont make any,they are insulting,what you call ads)
          Hats off to Bajaj,with just 3 products in market(pulsar,discover,avanger),they are standing right on the neck of Hero....
          +1 to that..

          who did the design and styling for hero hondas? was it honda?
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          • #35
            Hearty congrats to Bajaj on this award.

            The rationale behind the constant criticism of BAL is in my opinion unfounded as i have a pulsar 220 Dtsi since Jan 2010 and frankly speaking there has been no major problem and the bike has always been giving flawless performance and similarly other friends who have Bajaj, including an old Caliber, have not been even slightly disappointed.

            It looks like someone must have picked up this point of Bajaj bike being unreliable some ages ago and quite a few Bajaj "haters" have been been pointlessly harping onto this issue without even having actually owned BAL bikes.

            Any i know this is not the best place to post this, but continuing with what was being discussed added my comments.

            Kudos to Bajaj

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Karthik Mathur (Orange) View Post
              Hearty congrats to Bajaj on this award.

              The rationale behind the constant criticism of BAL is in my opinion unfounded as i have a pulsar 220 Dtsi since Jan 2010 and frankly speaking there has been no major problem and the bike has always been giving flawless performance and similarly other friends who have Bajaj, including an old Caliber, have not been even slightly disappointed.

              It looks like someone must have picked up this point of Bajaj bike being unreliable some ages ago and quite a few Bajaj "haters" have been been pointlessly harping onto this issue without even having actually owned BAL bikes.

              Any i know this is not the best place to post this, but continuing with what was being discussed added my comments.

              Kudos to Bajaj
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              • #37
                Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                I do agree. Their ads do know how to keep the future target client interested in their respective products.
                Bajaj were the only brand which first ever promoted a city commuter Pulsar as performence machine ..and were the first to produce an add showing a bike with front wheel of the ground!!! Really that only promotion, gave buds to performer a stunter in many of the ordinary Indian commuters. Either recall Hodibaba add or Wind add, or any of there including platina also ...there adds are also "Distinctly Ahead" as there bikes are..!!!


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                • #38
                  Originally posted by sambit View Post
                  Hero should stop spending on those stupid music albums and make proper ads ....(better they dont make any,they are insulting,what you call ads)
                  Hats off to Bajaj,with just 3 products in market(pulsar,discover,avanger),they are standing right on the neck of Hero....
                  Perfect all perfect.... these are almost killing HH's premium market.!!


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                  • #39
                    Hats off to Bajaj!! I am so proud of it.

                    7+ years of owning my Pulsar, it has never let me down or had issues. Now that its old, I spend on changing the sprockets and disc plates etc.. something un-avoidable.

                    There has not been a single complaint I have about my bike and i love it more than my GT. Good to see that the brand has emerged so much and all credits to Bajaj for the efforts it has taken to keep it up.

                    I have also had bad experiences with BAL owning a Kristal, where the product was stopped and we struggled a lot to get even a brake cable and finally sold the bike for 10% of the price. May be Bajaj should start thinking about their existing customers before they decide something like discontinuing a product.
                    MJ
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                    **I got a BIKE cuz I wanted a PULSAR!!**

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                    • #40
                      lol, from Pulsar Bashing to Hero Honda Bashing in 2 pages. I hope you kids grow out of fanboyism for either of the brands.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by j4zb4 View Post
                        Have you heard of the term "Beating a dead donkey"... This is a live example...
                        True thing
                        people who criticize will continue doing so and bajaj bike owners will continue enjoying the bikes

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                        • #42
                          The "no single problem till date" is an exaggeration. Go through the ownership threads/help forum and there are posts/threads. Every bike, whether Indian or Japanese or would've had a minor niggle atleast once in its "years of running".

                          At times, people post about their problems, seeking for help and few days later would come up in some bashing thread and claim they have had no problems till date.





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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by eliksir View Post
                            The "no single problem till date" is an exaggeration. Go through the ownership threads/help forum and there are posts/threads. Every bike, whether Indian or Japanese or would've had a minor niggle atleast once in its "years of running".

                            At times, people post about their problems, seeking for help and few days later would come up in some bashing thread and claim they have had no problems till date.





                            (not biased against any particular bike/brand/company)
                            No one is saying there are no niggles and tiny issues which are easily solved and don't recur... And yes regular maintenance is required too... What we are talking about is there are no such huge unsolvable issues these bashers keep harping about non-stop all the time... Clear enough...?
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                              - They don’t have a brand ambassador (Huge saving)

                              And yet the ads have much bigger impact...
                              Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                              - They don’t have a rampant TVC

                              Since they are good they have long lasting Impact...


                              On the other hand Hero ads are utterly un inspiring (no one want to take inspiration for reclaiming his cap from storm etc.)
                              and on top of this they keep airing those ads constantly.

                              Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                              EDIT: I am not very computer savvy and so I do not know how to post links etc. But some info of Bajaj and its largest competitor Hero from Economic Times-


                              Hero MotoCorp- Financials


                              Q1 / 2011 Ann 2011
                              Total Income Cr 5,772 19,491
                              BIT Cr. 666 2,318
                              PAT Cr. 558 1,928
                              EPS (Rs.) 27.94 96.55
                              Market Cap (Rs Cr.): 39,067

                              Bajaj Auto- Financials

                              Q1 / 2011 Ann 2011
                              Total Income Cr. 4,850 16,860
                              EBIT Cr. 953 3,538
                              PAT Cr. 711 3,340
                              EPS (Rs.) 24.57 115.42
                              Market Cap (Rs Cr.): 43,198

                              PS- As this information is copy-pasted from ET, I cannot guarantee that it is 100% accurate.


                              If these (bold) nos. are real, Bajaj already overtook Hero and that to with good margin. As its not the no of vehicle produced is everything to go by. Company with costlier product may sell less but still will be better...
                              Last edited by saurabh81; 10-10-2011, 06:05 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by rakesh_zmr View Post
                                I never knew Bajaj has only three products this is amazing!
                                That makes 2 of us, but than you realize that they have PULSAR 135,150,180,220F,220 without F, 220DTSI, Avenger 200, Avenger 220, and so on... Oh btw, YES OFFENSE J/k :P
                                My thoughts are subjected to personal experiences/internet articles. Please read my comment carefully before replying. :)

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