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  • '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

    The Ministry of Road, Transport & Highways, apparently needs 3 more months to review Motor Vehicle Act, and to introduce it afresh in the parliament. The objective is to refresh it upto "international standards".



    Union Transport Minister Nitin Gadkari said, "We need three months to study the (Motor Vehicle) Act in its totality and then we will try and bring it in Parliament in its next session."
    Earlier on June 5th, Gadkari had said that the government in a month's time will re-draft the Motor Vehicle amendment bill, which will be in sync with six advanced nations - US, Canada, Singapore, Japan, Germany and the UK, and thereafter will introduce it in Parliament. The Motor Vehicles (Amendment) Bill, which could be passed only in the Rajya Sabha in May 2012, proposes hefty penalties for traffic rule violations and drunken driving.

    Repeated violations of traffic rules resulting in cancellation of driving license, is likely to be one of the major amendments to the Bill.

    "If anyone violates the road rules more than three times, his driving licence will be suspended for six months and if he continues to violate after that, then the driving licence will be cancelled. These are some of the considerations as part of redrafting the Motor Vehicles bill," the Minister had said.

    Several provisions of the Motor Vehicles Act of 1988, especially those related to penalties for violations, have not been found to be effective in checking road accidents. The last time the Act was amended was in 2001. It is notable that our Motor Vehicles Act has been criticised from time to time. The penalties were often considered small and inadequate specially in cases of severe offences like drunk driving, overspeeding and causing lethal accidents, etc. Even accidental deaths are not -punishable enough, in line with the seriousness of the offence.



    This also brings to mind, among various other cases, the petition of Jyoti Gupta, an Indian housewife who lost her husband, and 3 year old baby girl to an accident, which involved a Roadways bus driver driving on the wrong side of the road. The driver, whose license was given without any driving test in the RTO, claimed that he pressed accelerator, instead the of brake pedal by mistake. He got out on bail the same day he was arrested.
    Jyoti Gupta had gathered attention on news, and later, opened an online petition to The Narendra Modi led BJP government, urging them to reform sections under the Motor Vehicle Act.
    Similar other efforts have been made in the past, although not all could be channelised properly.


    Source: Various online links from websites like Economic times, Business Standard, etc.

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    What do you think guys? Will this create a change? Is this amendment high time coming, since 2001?
    Or will this remain as another amendment, whereby the law is great on paper, but the ground reality remains the same, or gets worse?
    Last edited by Samarth 619; 07-17-2014, 05:21 AM.
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    Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

    Better late than never. A strong act is needed but how it is implemeted that remains to be seen. In India, rules are different for the common man and te politicians,actors and powerful people.
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    • #3
      Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

      How good is "International rules" on "Indian Roads"?
      Give us some International Infrastructure like wider roads with clear marked lanes, well maintained road signs(not rusted ones), Long lasting Tarmac roads, etc etc.. and then enforce International guidelines.
      The license issuing authority is a joke, any idiot can bribe an official outside RTOs and get one without tests. The official test is a bigger joke. Driving around a small track proves absolutely nothing about one's traffic sense. Driving schools instruct candidates exactly 5 hand signals that the Inspector at the test asks, if you show him once you are approved for the test.
      Bring in the simulators, study the candidate's behaviour, road sense and only then approve their license.
      Also helps if pedestrians are told to use Zebra crossing instead of Jaywalking which is a crime in major countries.
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      • #4
        Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

        There are many great acts but none properly implemented and hence render useless.
        The police will come in full force for a couple of weeks or a month and after that, it will be all the same.

        What govt should do is first improve the license issuing procedure and stop giving license based on the influence/bribe, improve road conditions and stop jaywalking.

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        • #5
          Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

          But sir, Places with very low literacy rates, whose more than 70% of area is rural area, does'nt even have a driving license, and these people continue to drive their vehicles all through their life without any problem. I've lived in Punjab and Haryana for about 3 years, and have seen almost nobody cares about getting their license made. They seriously do not see what the fuss is all about. How is this act going to make any difference when a lot of people can drive fearlessly without the very basic license.


          More ever, bribing the policemen and phone calls to the MLAs and MPs and Commissioners by the culprits, and the situation is as it was before, if not worse.
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          • #6
            Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

            Its good, better late than never.... However..



            Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
            ...... Gadkari had said that the government in a month's time will re-draft the Motor Vehicle amendment bill, which will be in sync with six advanced nations - US, Canada, Singapore, Japan, Germany and the UK, and thereafter will introduce it in Parliament. The Motor Vehicles (Amendment) Bill, which could be passed only in the Rajya Sabha in May 2012.....
            So, basically it will be a copy paste, and Re-Draft of already amended bill passed earlier only in rajya sabha.



            Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
            ...... ..... proposes hefty penalties for traffic rule violations and drunken driving.

            Repeated violations of traffic rules resulting in cancellation of driving license, is likely to be one of the major amendments to the Bill.

            ....
            welcome step, although quite difficult to implement, neverthless a good step.



            Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
            ...... ..... The penalties were often considered small and inadequate specially in cases of severe offences like drunk driving, overspeeding and causing lethal accidents, etc. Even accidental deaths are not -punishable enough, in line with the seriousness of the offence....
            this is very true, having experienced first hand....needs to improve.


            Apart from this, plz increase legal speed limit, atleast on good roads and highways.
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              Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

              I think the biggest problem is our mentality, majority of the people in India does not care about rules even peoples life on road and why all this, because of gov act only after when problems become horrible and that too some time for just publicity or to save them selves, now these traffic rules problem has become horrible in India everywhere, I don't think making rules when disease is already seems like there is no cure is as equal as doing nothing.
              I know Something is better than nothing but its not good always and everywhere....
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              • #8
                Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                Lots of rules but zero implementation.

                How about making a rule which allowed a person to ride their vehicle throughout the country uninhibited. Currently people have to hide from cops if they happen to be riding a vehicle registered in another state. When will this rule change come???
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                • #9
                  Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                  Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                  Lots of rules but zero implementation.

                  How about making a rule which allowed a person to ride their vehicle throughout the country uninhibited. Currently people have to hide from cops if they happen to be riding a vehicle registered in another state. When will this rule change come???
                  True Fact.. I was riding to Coimbatore from New Delhi last month and I was sure to carry all the documents I needed including the Pollution Certificate.. even then something was trickling my mind saying be very cautious as they can stop me any moment and take money for no cause..
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                  • #10
                    Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                    A good start but would this change also be valid for police other government organisations as I have never seen them obeying any traffic law. These guys are always violating all traffic rules such as wearing helmet, wearing seat belts in police cars, driving on the wrong side on intersections. Even all public transport vehicle drivers are rarely obeying the law. I think enforcement at all level across the spectrum irrespective of the fact that you are working in a government body is required. Only changing the traffic rules would not suffice and common man would be harassed to new height by these police wallas.

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                    • #11
                      Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                      This is welcome though there is no guarantee it will make things better on road. For 99% of on road behaviour it all simply boils down to how we as public honour the rules. The existing rules are more than enough if followed to make roads safer and driving a hassle free experience. The people need education because somebody has to drill into our silly minds that getting "there" 10 mins early is not going to make us a crorepati, we act as though it does!

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                      • #12
                        Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                        Whatever be the new rules it wont come into effect because of the arrogant drivers and riders who think they can buy a cop by bribing him or have political contacts
                        The problem here is if you correct someone it hurts his/her ego and next moment there will be a fight. They may be highly qualified but they behave worst than animals.
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                        • #13
                          Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                          Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                          Lots of rules but zero implementation.

                          How about making a rule which allowed a person to ride their vehicle throughout the country uninhibited. Currently people have to hide from cops if they happen to be riding a vehicle registered in another state. When will this rule change come???

                          Exactly, Once upon a time ( read Pre 1991) only Central government employees and People from Defence forces would be perennially on the move throught their career. Now with the Private secor ( IT & ITES most promiently) employing a very large numer of people who have to relocate many times... there should be some amendments to the law. I hope common sense prevails. How about starting an online petition for this one.

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                          • #14
                            Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                            So, we can expect that Helmet standard will get also revised and DOT / ECE gets an approval into Indian standards.

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                              Re: '3 more months needed to review Motor Vehicle Act', -Ministry of RT&H, India.

                              Well, the Ministry of Road, Transport & Highways has to do something(useful or not) in its term at the office.

                              Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                              Repeated violations of traffic rules resulting in cancellation of driving license, is likely to be one of the major amendments to the Bill.

                              "If anyone violates the road rules more than three times, his driving licence will be suspended for six months and if he continues to violate after that, then the driving licence will be cancelled. These are some of the considerations as part of redrafting the Motor Vehicles bill," the Minister had said.
                              Confiscate the vehicle instead, duration can be debatable.

                              Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                              Several provisions of the Motor Vehicles Act of 1988, especially those related to penalties for violations, have not been found to be effective in checking road accidents. The last time the Act was amended was in 2001. It is notable that our Motor Vehicles Act has been criticised from time to time. The penalties were often considered small and inadequate specially in cases of severe offences like drunk driving, overspeeding and causing lethal accidents, etc. Even accidental deaths are not -punishable enough, in line with the seriousness of the offence.
                              Penalties should in proportion to individual's earning capability.

                              More penalty rules => evade penalties => happy dirty policemen => unhappy honest people => no honesty left

                              A simple stroll on motorcycle in Bengaluru gives you current status of enforcing traffic laws.
                              • BMTC city buses get on to service roads, often are the ones violating traffic rules. Are buses supposed to change lanes such frequently within city limits?
                              • Impatient two-wheelers zip-zapping between four-wheelers; even in stagnant traffic they always find space on pavement to ride on.
                              • You'll always find someone too early to start off or too late to stop, ending up in a conflict amid traffic.
                              • I respect pedestrians, I don't blame them; I don't want to piss-off another pedestrian and see him/her buy a two-wheeler.
                              • People jumping signals right in front TP(Traffic-Police)



                              We have advertisements with bikers performing stunts on motorcycles that are targeted for am-junta. Yet, we ban stunts on public roads, I don't understand why the stunts in advertisements? Not to mention caffeinated sugar drinks' ads.

                              This issue is like America calling its people crazy for gun abuse in public(esp schools) places. It's like Eddie says "They say . Well I think the gun helps". There are gun stores in America & owning a gun is public right.

                              Didn't vehicle count doubled in metros in the last decade?

                              Registered vehicles with RTO Karnataka(a state which levies nearly 50% tax on alcohol; which are already diluted 40%ethanol => paying 100/- for 20/- worth ethanol, make me run for local jaggery-hearths for some moonshine):

                              2000-01 - 36,92,980
                              2010-11 - 99,30,483
                              2012-13 - 1,20,63,686


                              Bottom line: New rules not necessarily make things better but they often complicate things. In a democracy like India(largest known) they often overcomplicate than simplifying. Make things simpler.
                              • Invest heavily in public transport, make them reliable, timely & cheaper than private ownership.
                              • Our democracy can't cope with progress like China(or is it?), nor can it open up like USA & suffer consequences.


                              Penalysing people will only make them angrier, esp when they see others breaking rules & escaping penalties with pride.

                              Like great men said before : Condemn the sin not the sinner.Do we stop riding knowing road accidents can kill us?
                              Do we stop air-travel knowing airplane can crash or go completely lost like recent incident?
                              List goes on ...

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