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  • Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

    Struggling to curb at least 380 daily road fatalities, the government is likely to steeply increase fine for traffic offences and introduce penalty points in the proposed new motor vehicle law. Once a driver accumulates 12 negative points, his/her licence would be suspended for a year.



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    Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing - The Times of India

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    Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

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    • #3
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      Snapshot copied from a fb page.



      The fines have sky rocketed.

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      • #4
        Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

        Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
        Snapshot copied from a fb page.



        The fines have sky rocketed.
        So has the income.

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        • #5
          Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

          The problem will continue that the laws are there, the implementation is not.

          And again this is on the basis of what the cop on the street 'thinks'! If he sees you in riding gear and he calls you a racer and fines you 10/15/25k, then what do you do.

          Increased amounts will not deter anybody, it will only ensure that the law abiding citizen instead of paying the fine will try to grease the palms of the cops and move on.

          Sadly nothing is thought through. Though the penalty points system is very welcome.
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          • #6
            Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

            On the face of it, seems like a good move. But, the amounts are so steep that three things will happen.

            1. Most won't be able to pay out of pocket to settle the challan. This will lead to paying the fines in the court. An unnecessary hassle and potential bribing point.
            2. The bribe amounts will increase. To avoid a 5k challan, people will now shell out at-least 1k more.
            3. Exploitation will go up steeply. Any cop can now threaten you with 'obstruction of road'/'racing' frivolous charges. These vague charges will be difficult to contest and will lead to more harassment for people who are following rules.

            Yes, I do agree that these steep fines might even be a deterrent for a minority. Hopefully, the govt is not just thinking quick-fix stuff like this but also things like driver/rider education and stiffer license tests.

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            • #7
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              Useless proposal & there is no point in arguing about it on-line.
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              • #8
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                You can't make a fail proof law violators will come up with some kind of magic to outplay the law, if a person is bribing the cop to avoid 5000/- rs challan for rs 1000/-,then this 1000 bucks is no small amount and for how many times can a person shell out thousand rupees.

                It's the attitude of the every individual which is like "sab chalta haih", one of my friends has recently shifted to New Zealand and he was praising the traffic sense of New zealand, but he himself never obeyed the traffic rules of his own country, till we have these kind of peoples our traffic situation is never gonna solve.

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                  Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

                  Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                  You can't make a fail proof law violators will come up with some kind of magic to outplay the law, if a person is bribing the cop to avoid 5000/- rs challan for rs 1000/-,then this 1000 bucks is no small amount and for how many times can a person shell out thousand rupees.


                  It's the attitude of the every individual which is like "sab chalta haih", one of my friends has recently shifted to New Zealand and he was praising the traffic sense of New zealand, but he himself never obeyed the traffic rules of his own country, till we have these kind of peoples our traffic situation is never gonna solve.

                  Not only your friend mate, I have seen my friends too. Coming here in England and obeying every possible rule stopping at the signal when there is no one crossing and in Pune, who gives a $hite! Its attitude and nothing more.


                  Coming to penalties, they are bizarre, skyhigh, some of the people riding bike/moped have their monthly income as equal to the fine. This doesnt make any sense to me.


                  Point system is a welcome.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

                    Originally posted by lalitp View Post
                    Not only your friend mate, I have seen my friends too. Coming here in England and obeying every possible rule stopping at the signal when there is no one crossing and in Pune, who gives a $hite! Its attitude and nothing more.


                    Coming to penalties, they are bizarre, skyhigh, some of the people riding bike/moped have their monthly income as equal to the fine. This doesnt make any sense to me.


                    Point system is a welcome.
                    Yes that's the point in having higher penalties that everyone will not be able to bear them, and because of this fear may be people will start obeying rules, atleast that's what rule makers think.

                    Let's see what happens when these penalties are actually enforced.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

                      The Moment Gadkari was made transport minister I knew this guy was gonna screw up but never wondered he will screw up this bad. 5k for Jumping and signal and 2.5k for not wearing a helmet. This will only result in more corruption. Nothing else.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Stiffer fines, penalty points for traffic offences in the offing

                        what a stupid proposal.

                        uneducated politicians. bah!

                        this won't teach anyone in this country how to drive better. but they will be able to bribe better.

                        i am going to use my 'sunglasses spy camera' to make sure i catch a few more cops taking bribes.

                        does anyone know... what are the "fines" for a cop trying to take a bribe?

                        stupid politicians.
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                        • #13
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                          This law has retarded written all over it. +1 for what Monk said.


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                          • #14
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                            I guess we should all start shopping for an action cam and mount it on our helmet. We're gonna need it all the time seeing how the cops love to target 150cc and above bikes especially if the rider is fully geared up.

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                            • #15
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                              Fines are simply too high. There are some emergencies you can't avoid.
                              A few days back, my father was admitted in the hospital after a stroke. I was informed and I rushed to the hospital. I had to take such a route which was not known to me. I asked some locals and they happily pointed out to a road which ends right in front of the hospital. It was an almost dark road with no visible road signs. Upon reaching the signal, I was stopped and asked to show my DL by the traffic police. My crime was - I was riding down a one-way lane(it was a one-way lane indeed but I didn't know that). My DL was almost snatched away even after I conveyed the gravity of the situation to them. I was advised to visit the outpost after my 'visit' to the hospital was over. I came back after 2 hr.s after admitting my father and was informed that I 'have to' cough up Rs. 400/-. I tried hard to make the in-charge understand that it was my first traffic violation and that too in case of an emergency. But all came to a zero. Just when I left, I saw something in my RVM. Two persons riding without helmets came from the same direction as I was, stood right there in the middle of the road and started chit-chatting with the cop. Nobody told him nothing. By the time the signal was green and I could move, those two person just flew away in their bike. Were the cops simply too afraid to take any actions against them?
                              Mentally I was not willing enough to make it an issue but my question is when a life and death scenario like this comes and anyone unwillingly makes any offense, would he/she still have to pay 2.5/5K?
                              I'll be ready to pay the fine if no car carrying a municipal/corporation/district/state level leader makes his/her way out through the wrong side before an ambulance. Can the people behind this type of law guarantee his/her convoy will never break traffic rules.
                              Sorry if I've vented out too much but that's what I feel.
                              Last edited by krishna77; 08-25-2014, 10:42 PM.
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