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  • #16
    Re: No license or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

    Though this seems to be a good step towards safety, the two mentioned affidavit only gives more reason for showroom people to forcefully sell crap helmets at higher price and also the rto to get more bribe quoting note cases.
    What if I want to buy a really good helmet like ls2 and showroom doesn't have it. It makes the customer to forcefully just buy whatever crap helmets at higher price.
    As few people told before, fining heavily without any soft spot will only make people wear helmet.

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    • #17
      Re: No license or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

      Originally posted by krishna77 View Post
      This rule might not stand the test of time. But still, isn't it a step in the right direction? Even a marathon winner has to take the first long step.
      While i agree that its a good step, cant say its a right one. Thats what i was trying to establish, the point is to make people realise the importance of wearing safety gear. This way, if enforcement is the option, people wld just curse some more n stay the same way.

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      • #18
        Re: No license or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

        Originally posted by emm View Post
        Though this seems to be a good step towards safety, the two mentioned affidavit only gives more reason for showroom people to forcefully sell crap helmets at higher price and also the rto to get more bribe quoting note cases.
        What if I want to buy a really good helmet like ls2 and showroom doesn't have it. It makes the customer to forcefully just buy whatever crap helmets at higher price.
        As few people told before, fining heavily without any soft spot will only make people wear helmet.
        Come on dude...... seriously . . . how many times would that happen?. . if people wanted to buy a helmet , they already would have and this enforcement wouldnt even have happened. but people dont buy helmets, thus this is happening
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        • #19
          Re: No lisence or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

          Originally posted by UnsettledNose73 View Post
          You know as moderators you should probably do your part of promoting safety measures. you would be surprised of the influence you can make.

          I think its forums like these and mediums like the news and the newspaper that can EDUCATE the citizens rather than the police having to FORCE. its like saying ' I wont learn whats wrong until i have done something i will regret the rest of my life about' . Plus, its stupid if one doesnt wear a helmet just because the police dont catch you or fine you. and you are not truly passionate about two wheels nor are you any sort of an alpha male , you are just a SQUID. and without the helmet your brains deserve to be splattered on the road. .you=any random person, not you the moderator per say.

          I dont ride with people that dont wear gear. That's a pledge I have. its my way of supporting safety.

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          I am not quite sure what exactly are you trying to say! Yes we do promote safe motorcycling directly and even indirectly.

          Yes educating people is essential, but enforcing is just as important. I am not saying this from the comfort of my armchair. After having ridden around the country multiple times and having ridden through a lot of the big cities, the only places where helmets were used majorly was Bangalore and Delhi where enforcement is strict. Empirical evidence!

          I am also not talking about 'bikers' only, but the general mass of humanity on two wheels. The people in these two cities wear helmets because of the fear of the law, not because anyone has educated them and thanks to that they are safer.

          So yes educating riders is important for the long run, but enforcement is far more effective especially for immediate results!
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          • #20
            Re: No license or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

            Originally posted by UnsettledNose73 View Post
            Come on dude...... seriously . . . how many times would that happen?. . if people wanted to buy a helmet , they already would have and this enforcement wouldnt even have happened. but people dont buy helmets, thus this is happening
            I agree with emm,Bibhu and others, a much more effective step would be to make helmets compulsory 'on the head' while riding and fine riders who don't comply. My company campus has thousands of two-wheeler users, and entry is allowed only when helmets are worn. This has ensured that, people wear helmets inside the company roads at least. Still there are many super-smart people who carry their helmets on the mirror handles till the gate and then wear it. Some still ride lidless and park outside the company boundaries.

            This rule of dealer having to sell a helmet compulsorily is stupid. Suppose I ride with a superior quality MT/HJC/Arai helmet already and when I go out to purchase a new ride, they will add 500 bucks to my bill for a 300/- lid that I won't even use?
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            • #21
              Re: No lisence or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

              Originally posted by The Monk View Post
              Yes educating people is essential, but enforcing is just as important. I am not saying this from the comfort of my armchair. After having ridden around the country multiple times and having ridden through a lot of the big cities, the only places where helmets were used majorly was Bangalore and Delhi where enforcement is strict. Empirical evidence!

              I am also not talking about 'bikers' only, but the general mass of humanity on two wheels. The people in these two cities wear helmets because of the fear of the law, not because anyone has educated them and thanks to that they are safer.

              So yes educating riders is important for the long run, but enforcement is far more effective especially for immediate results!
              While i agree with your point of legal compulsion towards helmet usage, i would like to state that without proper education in the matter, people tend to get irritated towards the concept and start believing that it isnt necessary.

              Once you introduce a criminal penalty for such a simple matter of self-preservation, people start to believe that the state is trying to encroach on their liberty. I know, it sounds stupid. But there are voices of outrage, on various platforms, against wearing helmets and carrying insurance on the grounds of personal freedom and social responsibility. Proper education towards the subject will help curb all these misguided attempts towards a romantic notion of "revolution".

              So yes, in addition to enforcement of safety laws, some kind of educational program would be very helpful.

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              • #22
                Re: No license or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FOLLOW

                Can anyone help me with online registration for license?

                I just can't understand the procedure to apply for it..I am based in Mumbai.

                Thanks

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                • #23
                  Re: No license or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FOLLOW

                  This another BS rule which some crazy state is trying to implement not for riders safety but for some ulterior purpose.

                  First of all I find that helmets being mandatory is a stupid rule to be applied universally across the entire country regardless of its benefit. Second why is the govt going overboard about helmets beyond what is necessary, it's like saying "no smoking" but beyond certain limit you have to let the stupid people live their way of life even if it harms them potentially. There are hundreds of things which are more dangerous on the roads than riders without helmets, the govt turns a blind eye to those.

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                  • #24
                    Re: No lisence or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

                    Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
                    While i agree with your point of legal compulsion towards helmet usage, i would like to state that without proper education in the matter, people tend to get irritated towards the concept and start believing that it isnt necessary.

                    Once you introduce a criminal penalty for such a simple matter of self-preservation, people start to believe that the state is trying to encroach on their liberty. I know, it sounds stupid. But there are voices of outrage, on various platforms, against wearing helmets and carrying insurance on the grounds of personal freedom and social responsibility. Proper education towards the subject will help curb all these misguided attempts towards a romantic notion of "revolution".

                    So yes, in addition to enforcement of safety laws, some kind of educational program would be very helpful.

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                    While I agree that Helmet wearing is very important , but I also think that if there is a criminal penalty for not wearing it then it's encroaching upon personal freedom.Motorcycles crashes result in far more deaths/debilitating injuries than car crashes(obvious really), so should the Government ban it, should we be happy about it?
                    There is an argument which I do think makes sense is that if a helmetless rider dies or gets injured, then the public health system may spend money on him. To which I say, there should be an option of paying a much higher health/life insurance premium for helmetless riding. This gives you a choice,
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                    There should be a clause in every life or health insurance policy which says if the rider meets an accident without a helmet then there would be no disbursement.
                    This would take care of the problem.
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                    • #25
                      Re: No lisence or registration without a helmet, in Maharashtra! ALL STATES SHOULD FO

                      Originally posted by Doga View Post
                      While I agree that Helmet wearing is very important , but I also think that if there is a criminal penalty for not wearing it then it's encroaching upon personal freedom.Motorcycles crashes result in far more deaths/debilitating injuries than car crashes(obvious really), so should the Government ban it, should we be happy about it?
                      There is an argument which I do think makes sense is that if a helmetless rider dies or gets injured, then the public health system may spend money on him. To which I say, there should be an option of paying a much higher health/life insurance premium for helmetless riding. This gives you a choice,
                      Or
                      There should be a clause in every life or health insurance policy which says if the rider meets an accident without a helmet then there would be no disbursement.
                      This would take care of the problem.
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