Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

Yes you are right about the workings of the CBS. But when i ride off tarmac, only the rear brake is used, we don't even want to touch the front, especially on sand and loose mud. CBS will activate my front brake sinking the front wheel into the mud. Bahh. Taking the fun out of riding. So i reiterate, i hope these wonderful mandatory safety features can be turned off or removed for good!

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

Yay for the ABS, but not so excited about CBS. One doubt I have relates to braking while cornering, we use the rear brake to tighten the line we take. But with CBS where the front too gets applied, wouldn't the bike stand up rather than take a tighter line. Just curious to know. I believe that reduces the riders ability to use the controls as he pleases.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

ABS part is good. But why CBS ? Honda(Hero too) only uses this tech. Did Honda bribe Those who made the decision of CBS ? Even though I found it very helpful on Honda scooters because u can smash your rear brake so hard , so the front also gets applied without locking. But ABS with CBS is too much interference into the braking department.
More over if you look at The CBR250R C-ABS(ABS+CBS) , the model is ditched in other countries for ordinary ABS. And Honda themselves say this braking is better than the outgoing model(India still to receive the updated CBR).
And moreover once you bring the models as CKD, like the R3 or CBR650F itself, it has to again go through R&D for incorporating CBS into it. I dont think thats practical at all.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

the clear problem in our country is that we rely and expect from the government to make society safer and more habitable for us. weather it be road safety , cleanliness, or anything else. if you over fill your vehicle , its your fault. not government, not technology or anything else.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

KTM should provide ABS on the 200 Duke already. It's just a monopoly, nothing else. The export versions already has ABS.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

A very welcome move nevertheless.
But, first I'd like to see discs being made compulsary.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

good move but why so late?

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

They should have made the mandate like "any bike which gives less than 45kmpl mileage should have ABS" LOL

Welcome move but this should be applicable above 200cc. This is will adversely affect the commuters of India who want a cheap mode of transportation but have to shell out more for a "fancy" looking bike.

Inversely might make people stick to 100-125cc and never make the leap to 150 and above. Less petrol bill for the govt.

With already costly bikes, making ABS mandatory is gonna affect us all. Without ABS, the buggers at Kawasaki/Honda/Yamaha are already charging a premium for their "premium" bikes, now this will just be a another excuse to increase their margins.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

Contrary to that belief, by implementing ABS on mass production bikes, you will bring the ABS premium down by quite a margin. The reason some manufacturers haven't launched the ABS versions of their premium sport bikes yet is because the ratio of ABS opting people to non ABS opting people is pretty much lopsided in the favor of non-ABS owners. Just ask a Honda sales person in any city on the ratio of ABS to non ABS versions they have sold with the CBR. Manufacturers have already stated that if ABS is made mandatory then it can be part of standard equipment along several motorcycles in their portfolio and they can order the units in bulk for assembly and that will eventually bring the price down by a good margin.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

You proved my point exactly. If a guy spending 1.8L is crying to throw 30K more for ABS, even with economies of scale, IT WILL BE A PREMIUM for the price conscious COMMUTER segment, where every rupee counts. College students who generally opt for 150cc bikes will now be forced to go for 125cc as their parents will refuse to shell out the extra dough, with the double whammy of better fuel efficiency and lesser price.

Re: ABS & CBS Mandatory On 2-Wheelers In India From April 2018

And you missed my point in its entirely. The C-ABS was 30k because it was optional. It's a hit and miss and a manufacturer has to rely on two different brands or models of braking systems and that involves extra dough during developmental phase and not to mention inventory of spares for two different variants and they also have to predict how many ABS bikes to manufacture and how many Non-ABS bikes. That's a big problem especially since if the ABS variants has no demand, it will collect dust in the warehouses and the manufacture will suffer either way.

If you standardize the brakes, they won't be 30k anymore. It would be very less than that. Its how KTM managed to plonk the ABS on their Duke 390s since the export countries especially in Europe have standardized ABS on motorcycles above 125cc from next year, while they didn't want to plonk the ABS on the 200s because its not an export model to those standardized countries afaik and the fact that ours is a price conscious market where a 5k difference is frowned down upon even if eventually the system ends up saving way more than that especially with their life on the line.

ABS CBS to be made mmandatory by 2017 for 125+ cc bikes

As per Indian Government ABS/CBS to be made mandatory by 2017 for 125+ cc bbikes, what about the present bikes in the market??
Will the manufacturers dump the present versions of the bike and bring out new ones, or ABS/CBS kits to be introduced in the market???