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Some food for thought. Decade old technology?

Let me give you some perspective as to Honda's history. The Karizma was launched in 2003 (basically a HONDA CRF 230 MX series) and the CBR in 2011, and still these fetch a good demand, not purely because of their dated technology but purely because of their reliability and their time tested design. Even to this day a well maintained CBR and Karizma does turn many heads, I bet very few bikes have the prowess to do that. It's not only that, it's just one part of the potpourri.

Talking about the Sprint CBZ and Karizma have one of the best carburettors and solid engines out there, because they are finicky and that's a technology that was light years ahead back then and even today.

Coming to our decade older. the CBR's FI, ABS and the number of patents that went into making it, you would be awestruck just to see the number of patents Honda patented for the CBR 250. All these are technology which are still better than most of the advanced tech that are being offered today or currently in town. Design may be old, but their technology sure is always advanced than most of their counterparts in India.

Now, I'd also like to mention the finer side of the print, though these are what I found, observed as a biker and cherished, everyone has their own opinions and view points as to the bikes, technology et cetera.

Hero, still is piggybacking on Honda's technology which is good for them as long as they are into commuters and scooters. While, all other manufacturers are upping their ante, Hero is in dire need of projecting their motorcycle prowess and it's not Hero's bad EB going bankrupt to EB's dope team ruining the Karizma image to all the home stretch, they tried real hard. Hero, for one, is in need of a motorcycle that makes people go gaga for it all over, and with the XF3R things can improve a lot for Hero.

If they can bring back the old Karizma with PGM fuel injection, slightly wider rear tire and a projector lamp with dual discs with ABSOLUTELY NIL changes whatsoever to the body of the ZMA, they'll definitely set an avalanche in motion.

Cheers!
VJ

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Whoahhh!!!!

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" If they can bring back the old Karizma with PGM fuel injection, slightly wider rear tire and a projector lamp with dual discs with ABSOLUTELY NIL changes whatsoever to the body of the ZMA, they'll definitely set an avalanche in motion. "

Cant agree More Karizma Engine is still a Rockstar , Love the Hero Brand .... Bring in the Hero impulse with Karizma Engine as well

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But hero have seriously downgraded quality of post last batch of classic zma after divorce with honda. Being an owner of 2013 sep old model zma model i can tell you. Hero have changed various spare part/raw materials suppliers from 2012.

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But these carbs doesn't work above 8000 feet asl. Old zma with unchanged looks and riding position, fi, fresh tyres, good HL setup is the need for tourers like me. If hero can launch once again with these features @ 1.15 on road then certainly i will buy once again zma.

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You are straight away going into the defense of CBR and it's technology, but my point there is only one competition that's CBR and you agree or not but it's a decade old and Honda hasn't done anything to provide any sort of update(except those stickers). Looking at the past years sales figures Honda has shifted its focus towards the commuters segment to produce volumes and that's the reason for not providing any updates I think. So I wanted to point out that, hero has a pretty good chance to eat out the only competition out there. It doesn't matter how good you are you can always be replaced 😎.

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Right, and in fact I did. Honda India isn't focused on their upper segment motorcycles, even 250cc is considered a premium motorcycle in India. Of course, part of the reason why sales are sluggish when you compare Honda's commuters versus sportbikes is first, is in Honda's terms might be lack of volumes, lack of market potential et cetera, we'll just leave the guess work to them. It's like grinding the same chutney again and again with different ingredients.

Now, technology is always evolving, and we're all in for it. What I'd love to stress is the fact that what was once a dream has become the mainstream and has even the potential to eradicate certain systems completely in the coming years, in the Indian market. Hero sure has gained a lot of know-how from Honda, I would personally like to see a Hero product set a benchmark against Honda themselves. But will it be radical in anyway? Now, the answer is no, at least not for now.

Cheers!
VJ

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Soo that's why I said that it's the right time now before Honda brings an updated CBR 😂.
Assuming mojo launching after the dominator 😂😂
Few months back gixer 250 was in speculation and now it has disappeared (no updates) now hero won't have that competition if there is a competition I fear it would end up like mojo.
Hope any of the three launches soone 😍

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I hope Honda launches updated Cbr 250 this year

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If they do, the still don't meet the competition.. this will cost atleast 20k more than the present models.. at 2.4L, many would prefer a RC/Duke 390 and if at all Hero launches HX250R then the HX250R

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I don't think they will hike the price. Infact they are not in a position to do the same. How can they add 20k to the price for tuning it again and adding twin headlamp only..??
I think they would like to be competitive in the market.

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We will never know.. didn't the same happen with R15? Cost difference between R15S and R15.. matter of seat and tail difference!

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Manufacturers are increasing the price just for some sticker job or due to increase in material cost, in that way no manufacturer will modify the current version and keep the price same. And you are talking about Honda here. They have a part of their price just for the brand name .( by the way i own a CBR250)

And do you think they are trying to be competitive in the market by just giving some new color options. They are more focused on other segment where they have most profit.

Coming back to the original topic, I stopped waiting for new launches from HERO in 200 plus cc segment. They are busy in making the concept and takes ages to have it in production .

Ram

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There is a difference of 2700 only in between r15s and r15 v2 which is ok

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I believed it was close to 10k.. if it is 2.7k then it seems to be negligible

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I feel you have some confusion or something. Right from the start r15s was priced very close to r15 v2. Just few months back r15 v2 got a hike of 2k or something for new colors and sticker updated otherwise both were 2-300 bucks apart only...