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  • #16
    Re: Honda to make a middleweight motorcycle in India to take on Royal Enfield

    Originally posted by leech View Post
    If they make the rebel 500 in India, and price it around ₹3.5L on road, it could find takers. The rebel 300 must be around ₹2 lakh to poach the RE customer.
    Rightly said.

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    • #17
      Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

      The Rebel 500 costs 4.15 lakhs ex showroom in Thailand where it is manufactured. It costs 7.2 lakhs in Indonesia where its imported as CBU. Even if they manufacture it in India, you wouldn't see the Rebel sell for under that Thai price if the Indian CBR250R price and Thai CBR250R price being identical in 2011 is of any reference.

      TBH I don't see local production happening at all. The sales numbers wouldn't justify the investment for a manufacturing line in India when they export worldwide from Thailand. At best what I can see them doing is import the engine as CBU and electrical bits from Thailand much like they do with 650F and 150R but maybe manufacture the frame and other parts locally to keep the price down. If the engine comes in as CBU, it would add a premium to that Thai price which means you'd be shelling out more than the Thai price to offset the tax. Its exactly what they did with the 150R(which makes it tad expensive over the R15) and the CBR650F(which puts it above the other 650s).
      Last edited by Nithesh; 03-21-2017, 12:29 AM.
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      • #18
        Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

        RE itself is a brand or rather should i say the motorcycle 'bullet' is the brand. It has it's own fan base and following, no doubt about it and imo it doesn't have and will never have anything to compare it with (unless you want to compare apples vs oranges).
        If you look at the market today, the number of customers spending 1~2 lakh on a bike is increasing tremendously compared to say the 2.5+ lakh category. Out here the budget plays the pivotal role in a customer deciding which bike to buy.
        So can Honda get a sub 2.5 lakh (assuming inflation/spending power increase in the next couple of years) sub-400cc twin (or single) in a retro-classic style ?(like the picture posted earlier)

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        • #19
          Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

          Honda Rebel 250 Unveiled in Japan
          https://news.maxabout.com/bikes/honda/honda-rebel-250-unveiled-in-japan/
          Honda Rebel 250 was recently unveiled at Osaka Motor Show in Japan. The motorcycle is built around the same frame as Rebel 300, keeping everything exactly the same except the downsized engine. It can be a coincidence but the news of its unveil came at the same time when people around the industry we...


          Honda rebel 250 would be a good option here!
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          • #20
            Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

            That Rebel 250 is only for the Japanese market. Maybe Indonesia and Turkey in the future because those markets cannot recieve the Rebel 300.
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            • #21
              Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

              Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
              That Rebel 250 is only for the Japanese market. Maybe Indonesia and Turkey in the future because those markets cannot recieve the Rebel 300.
              So is there any concrete plans to set up manufacturing of the rebel here in India, or is it just in the planning stages?

              PS: you seem to have good knowledge on Honda, are you working for the company or related companies?

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              • #22
                Re: Honda to make a middleweight motorcycle in India to take on Royal Enfield

                Rebel 250 @ Osaka motorcycle show

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                • #23
                  Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

                  Originally posted by leech View Post
                  So is there any concrete plans to set up manufacturing of the rebel here in India, or is it just in the planning stages?

                  PS: you seem to have good knowledge on Honda, are you working for the company or related companies?
                  i follow all the press releases and media interviews for all the motorcycle bigwigs. Have a few industry sources in the Thai/Indonesia side of things where most of the Asian market decisions are taken. Its also very easy to find news from Honda since they put up all their press release on their Honda worldwide website.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Honda to make a middleweight motorcycle in India to take on Royal Enfield

                    Whatever their plans, Honda better hustle.

                    With the 750cc RE testing in India now and Bajaj's next release for 2017 being confirmed, Honda being Honda might arrive late to the party.

                    The irony is here is that Honda can easily win over a substantial market share if it got its act together - which it hasn't till date (except in the commuter segment).

                    But I doubt if they'll ignore the way motorcycling as a choice of endeavour (organised or otherwise) has grown steadily out here.

                    It's anybody's guess now about Honda's decisions ahead.
                    - ​When Life throws you a curve, Lean into it! -

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                    • #25
                      Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

                      Price would be the real game changer, as 1.5L you can get good RE but at the same price you won't get in any other companies.
                      Competition to RE means low end torque and more of cruiser kind of, Honda can not decrease the price so forget 500cc in 2L
                      They would definite launch 500cc engine above 4-5L and at that price, people would prefer HD

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                      • #26
                        Re: Honda to make a middleweight motorcycle in India to take on Royal Enfield

                        They launch/redesign the crf250l or create a crf450l... Dual sport bikes are going to be the nxt big thing in india

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                        • #27
                          Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

                          No new developments are there in this direction, there are very little choices of higher cc bikes in this section. Real cruiser bikes are almost missing except HD . Korean bike maker has that costing too much .
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                          • #28
                            Information on the Honda XRE 300

                            Hello All!

                            Stumbled upon this beauty from team-bhp. Honda XRE 300

                            This is a no-joke off-roader, at-least for its specs and price POV. And in Brazil(only place where it exists as-of-now), they use this for motorized infantry brigades.

                            Since Hero Impulse is no more in production and RE Himalayan is facing a shit loads of issues, this is a serious option to consider, IF, they release it in Indian market. After all, Honda doesn't have anything in entry level adv segment, besides the other players like RE Himalaya, BMW G 310GS, KTM 390 Adventure and Kawasaki Versys 300.

                            Any info on this bike's release in Indian market would be really appreciated!
                            Mohan
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                            • #29
                              Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

                              Somebody on the other bhp website posted a pic of what appears to be an XRE 300 that's supposedly arrived at Honda dealership in Mumbai.
                              The bike is already on sale in Brazil much like how the FZ200 was so pricing would be attractive since its pretty old in the market(from 2009).
                              21" front/ 18" rear wheels (offroad bias), 13.6 litre fuel tank, fuel efficiency about 26-30kpl, 860mm seat height(same as that of Africa Twin), Givi makes luggage racks in Brazil, has high ground clearance and is air/oil cooled so no Liquid cooling components. Rated at about 26hp and 29Nm Torque

                              Think of it as a more powerful/capable Hero Impulse(which NXR 150 Bros). Dry weight is rated at 144kg(STD) and 151 kg(C-ABS)
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                              Last edited by Nithesh; 04-25-2017, 07:16 PM.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Honda plans to compete with Royal Enfield in India

                                Honda can never compete with RE at the price range RE bikes sells and they know it. And there is no point selling a cruiser like bike which costs above 4L since it will not work out for them due to numbers.

                                Their best bet is to get CBR300R here because eventhe CBR500 will not see much sales owing to it's pricing. India is a poor man's market with few pockets of affordability for such bikes.

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