Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

N400 is a replacement to N300. So technically N400 should cost same as N300. Don’t fall for 50k discounts. You will get a much powerful engine on 400.
Also, 300 is discontinued throughout the world and is getting replaced by 400, which should stay for over 6 7 years.

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

Ya i am holding tight and waiting for N400 launch . In USA Price of N400 ABS is same as N300 ABS But in India , N300 ABS was never launched in India so i expect N400 to be some 20-30 upward priced anything above will mean breach of 4 lakh ex showroom and reach of 5 lakhs on Road which will be make it harder for many buyers .

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

It’s December end and they have lot of N300 stock through out different markets. So, they might take some time to get rid of them prior launching 400. If they launch alongside 300, price would be way higher. So let’s better wait than praying for immediate launch. [emoji14]

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

N400 will be priced around 5 odd lakhs on road, if ever launched in India. Ninja 650 would be a better choice I guess.

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

N650 Black is 6.60 on Road here and KRT is 20k more if they can place it under 3.90 ex then gap still will be over 1.5 lakhs . I agree N650 looks better option but it is not much fun to ride and is not city ride friendly when compared to N300 lets see if N400 is on similar lines but problem is their is now review yet by any known professional reviewers .

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

Why does kawasaki price their lower segment bikes soo high? Similarly with the versys 300, 4.6L ex showroom, will come up to 5.5L after tax, almost 6, two more lakhs you can get a versys 650, similarly with the 400, their mid segment and higher segment bikes seem priced the most competitively, I see a lot of zx10rs and ninja 1000s and z800/900s

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

I think they have launched N300 versys I India last week so 300 engine will continue dont see any discussion on this forum surprised

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

I don't think this is a mistake on their end. I read the explanation some where in this forum or the other bhp forum that Kawasaki prices their low end bikes at a premium so that a lot of people don't buy it and dilute the brand premium image (think of it like being opposite to KTM with dukes and RC). They also price their high end bikes very competitively so as to dominate the high end segment.

Seems like a good strategy to me (with my limited understanding of market dynamics).

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

Exactly, this is what my friend also suggested when I saw the pricing of Versys 300. Increasing sales numbers with low pricing for CKD imports like Ninja 300, without having a local manufacturing unit only dilutes the brand perception. Clever move by them!

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

The N400 is probably the number one option for my gixxer upgrade. But keeping in mind the exorbitant pricing of the Versys x300, I shudder to think what Kawasaki will price the N400 at!

Kawa does charge a premium for their entry level bikes, I'm afraid a price in the vicinity of 5 lakh ex-showroom will place the N400 alarmingly close to the N650 and on par with the Z650! According to me, the asking price of the N400 HAS to be closer to the N300 rather than the N650 or else Kawasaki might run the risk of pricing this bike into oblivion.

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

There is only one direction for every Company. To grow. If their strategy itself doesn't allow the brand to grow, i think, that's a flawed strategy.
Kawasaki is known here for expensive maintenance over Honda CBR650F. As of now, there is only one model from Honda. Situation might change tomorrow. But the brand perception of Kawasaki cant be changed over a long Period.

The second being they have a very good brand value. No. they are not. Inline Twins, Inline Four's and V-Twins are much smoother than Single cylinder bikes. As of now, People like their bikes because they are much smoother than single cylinder bikes, which they have only experience on. Once Domestic manufacturers start making them, we could see much erosion from premium brands like Kawa.

As of now Kawasaki seems to be charging 1800 per hour in labor cost (excluding taxes) ~30 USD. If a bike needs a major work for around 10 hours or more. Guess the cost involved to the owner with Labor + Parts + Consumables + Taxes. Looks like they determined to fend off more people. I don't think, such a strategy works for any brand. Unless they are a Tech company like apple or google, which has a strong moat, their OS, which cannot be copied by others.

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

kAWA in India is on revival phase and hardly has 22 showrooms in a Big country like India while same Kawa in Smaller country like Thailand and Malaysia has 50-70 showrooms , once they get to that number (200-300) in India lets say in 5-7 years and penetrate Tier II and Tier III then i am sure they will also bring in Single Mill Bikes which they are already selling in other Asian countries successfully .

No Partnership with Bajaj means now they can seriously consider Single Mill Bikes for India to grow they cannot count of Imported expensive bikes to sustain their growth story in India but for that they will require new factory to assemble Single Mill Bikes to keep cost in control and also join high volume market . Triumph is exactly doing same with partnership with Bajaj in India and they will introduce premium sub 500cc Single Mill Bikes which can be sold in India and also exported to Europe and America where KTM DUKE and RC are sold at premium and sometimes priced above Twin-Parallel .

Advantage of Kawa is that they already have Single Mill Bikes in their portfolio and don't require external partnership and even Top Kawa management in India knows it and no doubt they are planning in phases to enter this Premium sub 500cc Single Mill Bikes segment.

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

Honda, Yamaha already have plenty of single,twin mills in their portfolio that are sold in the same asian markets except india, and yet they are happy selling scooters and commuters in India despite the infrastructure they already have in place, Why??
Now will Kawa seriously bring down their costs and be more affordable to a lot more people like you said with smaller capacity bikes at a reasonable price(atleast in the sub 400cc segment) without a tie up locally.. i doubt so.
I am just waiting to see if honda or yamaha can rip the sub 400cc segment in the near future and I think bajaj+ktm will continue to provide the best bang for your buck bikes and it was good to see tvs catching up and following similar business mantra.

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

Honda is warming up with Rebel and new CBR lines but they are exactly not famous for their Twin mills in Asia or any where else . Yes Yamaha has good presence in America and Europe when it comes to their Twin mill over 500cc in India they are sloppy and both Honda and Yamaha are more interested in Commuter segments .

Coming back to Kawa , I said it will happen in phases and it will require local factory to develop fully from scratch in India to keep cost low , Kawa will not enter Commuter segments and will focus on Premium sub-500cc single mills , Trumph for example is planning 10 more showrooms over 20 in India by the time their Bajaj collaborated product comes out they will have good presence in tier 2 and 3 .

Re: Kawasaki revealed the new Ninja 400

Dude, the mighty Africa twin is a twin cylinder motor cycle. They wanted to give inline four above 500 cc, so this is the strategy they are on. Honda makes twins and they are very reliable.

Triumph has no other option to venture into new markets. Their home market is pretty limited, aging and has pathetic climate conditions for riders. Same is the case with US. That’s why you see many brands are coming to Asian markets.

Both can’t be compared to kawa in any scenario.