Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

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Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

It's a 750cc naked bike; what did you expect?. 215kg is fairly reasonable for that class of bike. Even the racetrack-oriented GSXR750 isn't much lighter than that. Add in that this bike isn't aimed at the hardcore street hooligan, and probably uses some steel in the frame rather than all-aluminum for cost control, and that weight is pretty much on-target.

The Japanese manufacturers have always aimed at a particular individual philosophy: Kawasaki has always been the horsepower king, Honda has been the "appliance bike", and so on. Suzuki used to be the racetrack king back in the days of the air/oil GSXRs, but when Yamaha's R1 dethroned them, they kind of faded. Now they've kind of traded places with the old Yamaha as the heavier, slightly outdated back-of-the-pack builder, while Yamaha has taken over as the risk-taker/bleeding-edge builder. Look at how long it's been since the Hayabusa was given a refresh, or worse, the Bandit 1250. Meanwhile the R1 keeps getting more advanced, the Yamaha MT-10 looks like a refugee from an Anime movie, and bikes like the VMAX and my Tenere continue to be consistent sellers (both bikes are super-niche machines that nevertheless work really well).

All that is to say that this GSX-S is pretty much what one can expect from Suzuki right now.

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh


What did I expect?

The 2009 FZ1 (1000 cc Inline 4 naked) weight 214 kg) And that was 9 years ago. NINE!!!!!

The MT09 weighs a sublime 188 kg wet. (which about 8 kg more than ideal, but that can be fixed. 200+kg cant be) (Side note: MT07 weighs even less)

The kawasaki z900 weighs less than this.

So does the Triumph Triple

Heck, the GSX-S1000 weighs 209 kg. Why is the 750 heavier than the 1000?



Shit bike.

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh


Because the 750 uses a mix of steel and aluminum in the frame, presumably as a cost measure. As I noted earlier, Suzuki is kind of the back-bench marque right now. Plus, Suzuki has aimed this bike at someone who wants a Naked bike but wants slightly more relaxed performance, sort of like the old Katana and RF bikes. If weight is all that matters (it isn't), buy a GSX-R.


Edited: the MT07 weighs less, but has half as many cylinders.

Also, the VMAX weighs 310kg. Does that make the VMAX crap too?

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

For me the weight and the ground clearance are the 2 main negatives in this bike specially for the Indian market with our roads ,average height and build .Bike sounds really sweet in the video.

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

Looks good to me and the performance numbers are healthy too, not sure about road performance. Yeah, they could have priced it ~7L to make it a good deal.

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

Shit bike? :P

By your logic, companies should spend millions of dollars on all of their bikes. Even if they don't sell. This bike is not a flagship which will make Suzuki invest big money. They usually invest in top of the line, big selling products.
And mods are done based on rider inputs too!

BTW how many big bikes have you ridden? And for how long?

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh


I agree on all of the points. And as for the V-Max, I dont really think it is a fair comparo. The V-Max was supossed to do different things, and it does.


Umm, I dont run the company's accounts department, so I will refrain from commenting on that.

Maybe they dont sell because the rivals are better? I mean, Canada, USA and Europe have a plethora of choices. And Suzuki 750 is dead last in sales, in its class. And its not a preception or a styling issue, considering how well the GSX-S1000 sells. So its the bike.

Is it unreasonable to expect a company's 750 I-4 to weigh less than the companies 1000 I4

Excess weight is excess weight. There is only so much you can remove.

Not Enough.



And as for me, I guess I'll just leave this link here

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

Let me explain.

Companies want to promote a flagship in certain segments. A product which will standout.They will devote a big amount of time and budget for that bike. They will use the existing generation of bike to make modifications or if they have huge budget they will make a new bike all together.
S750 is not their flagship bike. It is S1000. This doesn't warrant a cutting edge frame and engine.
Suzuki's plan doesn't seem to innovate much at this stage. As the market doesn't command a super advanced 750 streetbike at this time.
Hence the S750 is an older generation bike.

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

Sure it is. The GSX-S1000 is a high-performance naked, with an all-aluminum frame and all the bells and whistles. It's aimed at riders who want a slightly more upright seating position and less plastic on the bike, but still want arm-stretching performance and a near-race motor. The 750 is aimed at riders who want a mid-range bike with modern styling and a more tractable motor. We're not talking about race bikes now. If the GSX-R 750 weighed more than the 1000, it would raise eyebrows, because both Gixxers are race bikes. The two GSX-S bikes are aimed at completely different rider segments.

There's already a consensus in the reviews that the 750 is a fairly tepid bike, but there are plenty of riders out there who don't need bleeding-edge performance, but still want a 4cyl motor. Sure, you can get a z900 or MT-09 for a bit more, but both of those bikes are also much more powerful and more difficult to handle. Plus, we're talking about maybe 10-15kg. On the track, that can mean a lot, but out on the road, that amount of weight is the difference between riding to class with an empty or full backpack.

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh



And while you are at it, you might as well go through these reviews.







I just dont see the USP of the GSX-R.

The z900 is a measley 23 grand extra. Thats it. It has 10 more BHP, 17 more NM of Torque. And is 5 kg lighter.

And if you, (like me) dislike extra weight, and are willing to pay for it, get the Street Triple. That is 50 KG less. FIFTY!!!!!!!!!

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh


That 166kg is *dry* weight, not kerb weight (per the Triumph website). Kerb weight is 190kg.


And the z900 is slightly lighter, and slightly more expensive, but also has a very different character. The GSX-S is not a streetfighter or hooligan bike or track weapon. That's not its purpose. That's why it has a steel frame rather than aluminum and a less-adjustable suspension. Attacking it for its weight is like saying the FJR is a crap bike because it's so much heavier than the Hayabusa.

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

The 215 kgs figure, I would say, its not competely unbelievable...
How about making your thoughts sour by saying that even a Ninja 400R (based on 650R) weighed 203 kgs wet, and its still sold!


However, this weight figure clarifies 2 things:-

1. Suzuki doesn't expect much from this segment, globally or locally. Its not about Japanese tradition, or anything. See Ninja 400 for example. If they find demand, they do work hard to make it awesome.

2. Since Suzuki chose a pre-2005 engine for this bike, there are high chances that it will get a lot of competition from... NO, not the Z900 or Street Triple, but from the Benelli four cylinders...

And given that the Benelli ends up being significantly cheaper with about a 25~% power drop anyways, only time can tell... Of course, GSXS is a new launch, that will help sales in the initial months...


After that, we'll have to see whether Suzuki's brand image can push this segment or not..

Re: 2018 Suzuki GSX-S750 launched at Rs 7.45 lakh

Wow, guess OP must have owned plenty of superbikes in the last thirty years to say the GSX-S750 a 'shit bike' just from the spec sheet, without even test riding one. Speaks volumes of the experience he has gained along the years!