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  • #151
    Originally posted by gautambagchi View Post
    i don't know why people admire HH so, they don't do any original R&D and use old outdated hand me down tech. from honda. the sloper engine design in most HH bikes is close to 50 yrs old. they just change the stickers and serve old wine in new bottles. no offense just my opinion
    Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post
    I also have same opinion for HH
    I am not an admirer of HH as well as they always produce Bike which are atleast 50 years behind (as pointed by Gautam and Jatin). However we must understand HH is the company which revolutionized Indian Biking Scene. HH was the first company to bring 150 CC CBZ and then 223CC Karizma. Further, please understand they are dependent on Honda which is a shred company and would never let HH develop its own products or provide the latest technology. HH can only flourish, bring its own products if the break collaboration with Honda and set up their own R&D like Bajaj or TVS.

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    • #152
      @srinathrao - i hope you are right and i am wrong, but generally with HH, the case has not been so.

      @gautambagchi - that sloper engine is the largest selling engine in the world, virtually unchanged for the last 50 yrs, testament to its ability!


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      • #153
        My 2 cents....

        I somehow got a weird feeling that HH is going to plonk the same old 223cc mill with FI and the new full fairing and all new stickers. I really hope I am wrong.

        Again, on the positive side its gonna be a 250cc at best which I feel a bit unlikely but hoping for the best.
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        • #154
          Originally posted by gautambagchi View Post
          i don't know why people admire HH so, they don't do any original R&D and use old outdated hand me down tech. from honda. the sloper engine design in most HH bikes is close to 50 yrs old. they just change the stickers and serve old wine in new bottles. no offense just my opinion
          Good product is what makes people admire Hero Honda and not their RnD, why RnD is required when Honda is there ? As far as 50 years old technology or 100 years technology, it doesn't really matter as far as product meets customer's expectations.
          FYI, Twin Spark, Swirl ignition etc are all 80+ year old technology but hyped up as new technology as a result of 'great' RnD !!

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          • #155
            Originally posted by technoraj2004 View Post
            I somehow got a weird feeling that HH is going to plonk the same old 223cc mill with FI and the new full fairing and all new stickers. I really hope I am wrong.
            Good old Zma with Fi plus few added features is still a good package I guess ?!

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            • #156
              By some teeny-weeny chance,if the new zma manages to make some 22-odd bhp and has good top end and acceleration figures,will bajaj stop calling the p220 "the fastest indian"?

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              • #157
                Originally posted by Blueangel180 View Post
                By some teeny-weeny chance,if the new zma manages to make some 22-odd bhp and has good top end and acceleration figures,will bajaj stop calling the p220 "the fastest indian"?
                They should have already coz they are not the fastest.. because after 3 days Yamaha had launched the racing kits for R15...
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                • #158
                  Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                  FYI, Twin Spark, Swirl ignition etc are all 80+ year old technology but hyped up as new technology as a result of 'great' RnD !!
                  They have created hype on this old technology...Also, one point i like to share...what has happen adding twin spark plug...does average increases..no..it is giving average almost same as other 150cc bike...

                  does pickup increases...its almost same as other 150cc engines...

                  isn't it?

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                  • #159
                    HH will launch two bikes b4 diwali
                    if one is ZMR than other will surely be a sticker job.

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                    • #160
                      I had a nightmare a few nights ago.

                      That I had purchased a new 200 + cc bike of Indian brand and on the next day itself HH lauchned a new ZMA with 149 cc FI LC 4V 19PS CBU imported engine with six gears at Rs. 1+ lakh. Holly shift! I missed the Bus.

                      Later, was relieve to know that it was a nightmare only.
                      The Original CBZ

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                      • #161
                        Originally posted by Technician View Post
                        I had a nightmare a few nights ago.

                        That I had purchased a new 200 + cc bike of Indian brand and on the next day itself HH lauchned a new ZMA with 149 cc FI LC 4V 19PS CBU imported engine with six gears at Rs. 1+ lakh. Holly shift! I missed the Bus.

                        Later, was relieve to know that it was a nightmare only.
                        I do get nightmares but some what diff kind.
                        Same dream every time, i am riding busa first time
                        I sit on bike, start the engine and the time i twist the throttle front tire in the air and me kissing the ground.
                        I cant ride SBK in dream even
                        BIKE + BEER= sigpic

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                        • #162
                          Originally posted by freakzil View Post
                          They should have already coz they are not the fastest.. because after 3 days Yamaha had launched the racing kits for R15...
                          A yamaha R15 stock condition is a clear sprint winner as comapred to P220

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                          • #163
                            Originally posted by shrinathrao View Post
                            A yamaha R15 stock condition is a clear sprint winner as comapred to P220
                            With that, I shall terminate this line of discussion. I don't want this to degenerate into a x is faster than y inanity. Please stick to the topic.
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                            • #164
                              Originally posted by freakzil View Post
                              They should have already coz they are not the fastest.. because after 3 days Yamaha had launched the racing kits for R15...
                              The Race kitted R15 is not street legal buddy so the P220 is the fastest production bike . and even on the Race tracks there are faster bikes like the TVS racing team RTRs

                              Originally posted by shrinathrao View Post
                              A yamaha R15 stock condition is a clear sprint winner as comapred to P220
                              not really , 0-60 ,0-100 and even the top speed of Pulsar is higher and has benn proved by all bike magazines ,testers ,everybody .
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                              • #165
                                There we go again....there's got to be a xbhp own record for invariably drawing every topic to comparo...what was the topic
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                                Rite...ZMR caught testing...oops forgot
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