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    Hi All

    My name is Vinay and this is my first post on xbhp community. Pretty nervous and excited to be part of this community. Nervous - because I am a rookie among many of you experienced folks. Excited - Can't wait to be a part of this knowledgeable community and get to experience all good things about biking.

    Now, coming to point I am going to share my experience when experience of planning to buy Kawasaki Z800. The newly opened showroom for Kawasaki in Bangalore is in Indiranagar, it shares the same building with KTM but has clear divisions to bifurcate them. Showroom is quite small and has nothing fancy. But, Sales guy named Chetan is very helpful and answered all my queries and the best part he does not push you for sales that makes him trustable.

    There are five bikes in the showroom

    Ninja 1000
    Nina ZX-14R
    Ninja- ZX-10R
    Z1000 (this bike makes you drool)
    Z800

    Z1000 is the bike that will catch your attention the moment you enter the showroom. Its design will leave wet marks on ladies pants and make the guy roding it look like an sex god[IMG]file:///C:\Users\VKASHI~1.AKA\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlcl ip1\01\clip_image001.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:\Users\VKASHI~1.AKA\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlcl ip1\01\clip_image001.png[/IMG]lol!. All the bikes have superb fit and finish. There are no test drives for all the bikes as of yet. Since, most of them are yet to be registered with RTO, though Z800 is the first bike to be registered and I was one of the few people who were invited for a test drive near Nitte Meenakshi College road on Sunday early morning.

    Z800

    This is second eye catchy bike in the showroom and will be an instant attention seeker when Z1000 is not around. Currently, in Indian Market Z800 is available only in Black colour and that's a huge disappointment. When asked about this issue Sales guy(Chetan) said this is the only color that is currently being sent to India from Japan(not Indonesia as this is not CKD) but, things may change in future. However, he was not ready to confirm on this. Secondly, seat height can be a big turn off for an average Indian. I am 5ft 7 inches and have to tip toe this bike.Third, there are no accessories currently for Z800 (or for any other bikes) and they will only come as and when they are ordered.

    There are advantages though, it is 100 times better looking than Triumph Street triple (went on a test drive), its a four cylinder engine, even though its quite heavy 234 Kgs, its flickable in city and stunning machine to ride. The exhaust note is awesome too.

    Test Drive

    On Saturday, I was informed through email that test drives will be given in Nitte Meenakshi College road early morning Sunday at 6 30 am. So, I was all excited due to which I could not sleep the whole night and was waiting for the clock to hit 6 30 am. Got ready at 5 am and started from RR nagar on my Yamaha FZ 16, picked up my friend in Navrang and used the Google maps to locate the destination it was 51 km ride fro my place and in the early morning it was an amazing feeling thinking of the fact that I was going to drive a 116BHP bike after having ridden 15BHP Yamaha FZ bike for 3 years. i was very nervous and praying to god that please make sure that everything goes well.


    So, finally reached the location, thanks to Google maps and later handful of other riders came on their KTM 390. there were 4 bikes and all of them had KTM 390 seems like its the new Pulsar now. This was joined by Ninja 650 and then there was Hero of the day Z800. Man, I was shocked because in showroom it did not look like it was such a big deal. But, out in daylight and in real world it was THE BIKE(for the price point) to have, its massive tank arch, mean headlight and those sexy Z shaped tail lights were so perfect, I kept staring at it for minutes. After, all the admiration and drooling Chethan(sales guy) gave us Indemnity forms to be signed and then he gave us instructions.

    Test drive was going to be 6 KM (back and forth), he asked us not to go over 80km speed and rev more than 5K rpm. Also, note that Nitte Meenakshi College road was the perfect location to test Z800 as it had all the ingredients to bring out the capabilities of Z800. Speed Breakers, deep curves and straight roads.Few of the first riders followed exactly what was instructed by Chetan(sales guy), but after my turn was over everybody drove like they had stolen it[IMG]file:///C:\Users\VKASHI~1.AKA\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlcl ip1\01\clip_image002.gif[/IMG] Now, came my turn to ride the 234 kg monster. So, hopped on it and pushed it into first gear and let go the clutch and off I was. The first thing you will notice in Z800 is it has very short gear ratios and it loves to be revved. I was into 2nd gear and was surprised because it too had short gear ratio and till 5th gear it was the same, then when I pushed it onto 6th this was a long one and I believe this is what will help in high way cruising. I clocked a max of 113 km/h speed in 4th gear and it I was thrown back a bit because I had never experienced anything like that in my life. So, I hit on back brakes and it came to halt in a very short notice. Now, the idea came to me to see if this bike can pull from a speed of 17 km/h and it did with a very minor chain cluttering. I was not satisfied, so I went to 6th gear and decreased the speed to 30 km/h and increased the speed again and it did not disappoint and pulled effortlessly without any cluttering all they way up to 103 km/h. But, most surprisingly I did not not feel the bike was heavy even for a second. Its so balanced and hides it weight that you don't feel it at all. Z800 has no vibrations and the gearbox is butter smooth. the bikes needs preferably 95 octane petrol and first service will cost your around 3-4k at 1000 km and later on every 10000 km and the charge maybe 6-9k per service.

    The only, uncomfortable bit for me is during stopping as I am 5ft 7 inches. Its pretty, difficult to balance it in slow speeds and you lose confidence in it and you stress yourself so as not to do anything to embarrass yourself.


    All in all It was an eventful weekend. As, for booking part today I will be meeting him to give 1 lakh as booking amount. Though, i have mentioned to him that I will take the bike after 3 months only (30 days is the waiting period). As, I am hoping kawasaki will give us more colors to choose from.Lastly, I am thinking of reducing the bike seat height by 20 mm as once of the service guy from Kawasaki said the can do it or either I will be importing seat lowering kit from following link Kawasaki Lowering kits | Kawasaki Lowering Links | Suspension lowering | Kawasaki Ninja ZX6R, ZX9R, ZX10, ZX12, Z750, Z800, Z1000 Lowering kit. to resolve seat height problem once and for all.

    Let me know if you have any questions and and below are pictures and my ride during test drive
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      Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
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        Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

        I think I left before you finished your test ride.

        I remember you were saying Triumph Triple is aggressive than Z800. What did you feel after the test ride ? How was your overall ride experience ?
        Last edited by Shreeni0403; 07-15-2014, 04:23 PM.

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          Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

          Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
          I think I left before you finished your test ride.

          I remember you were saying Triumph Triple is aggressive than Z800. What did you feel after the test ride ? How was your overall ride experience ?
          Hi

          sorry for the delay in reply. The bike is awesome to drive it's flickable and one thing I love about is its gearbox. It's so butter smooth that u want to ride it all day. This certainly can be used for touring.

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            Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

            Great to know about the fun you guys had test riding this beautiful machine. As an owner I could add a few bucks to your experience from my side.

            The bikes def great by all margins, however, there are a few flaws..(that I cd list after 3 months of riding)
            First, I am not sure if any of you felt this, the stock seat on z800 is slippery and that means you have to keep adjusting yourself after a while. This is in contrast to what seating a N650 or N1000 offers. And this gets worse if you are with a pillion as you then bear the weight of two bodies slippin over the tank.
            Secondly, the height os def a concern as you mentioned but along with this the stock suspension of the bike if towards the harder side of the scale. So typical Indian roads which are not butter smooth will stress ur back and wrists. This might not be felt in shorter fast sprints but def on longer hauls of 200-300 kms of normal riding. And that where the touring capabilities of this bike take a bolt.

            Nothing other then this I would add as a significant sharing. The bike has enormous road presence and is very fast on arrow head roads.

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              Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

              Originally posted by shashrash View Post
              Great to know about the fun you guys had test riding this beautiful machine. As an owner I could add a few bucks to your experience from my side.

              The bikes def great by all margins, however, there are a few flaws..(that I cd list after 3 months of riding)
              First, I am not sure if any of you felt this, the stock seat on z800 is slippery and that means you have to keep adjusting yourself after a while. This is in contrast to what seating a N650 or N1000 offers. And this gets worse if you are with a pillion as you then bear the weight of two bodies slipping over the tank.
              Secondly, the height is def a concern as you mentioned but along with this the stock suspension of the bike if towards the harder side of the scale. So typical Indian roads which are not butter smooth will stress ur back and wrists. This might not be felt in shorter fast sprints but def on longer hauls of 200-300 kms of normal riding. And that where the touring capabilities of this bike take a bolt.

              Nothing other then this I would add as a significant sharing. The bike has enormous road presence and is very fast on arrow head roads.

              Have fun. Ride safe and ride hard.
              Thank you for your valuable inputs.

              Can't we adjust the suspension setting ? I thought it is adjustable.

              Also it would be nice if you can pen down a little on Service Expenses, Service Intervals etc.

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                Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

                Thanks for the post vkashipa and inputs by shashrash. I have few questions:

                To vkashipa & shashrash,

                1. What made you select Z800 over street triple? (Let us know even if it is the silliest/negligible reason, since it could be very valuable for the readers).
                2. I heard that Z800 clutch is harder than Striple. Is that right? If so is it harder than Ninja 250/300?
                3. How shorter gear in Z800 is affects in the real life and practicality? (+ve & -ve)
                4. Any other things buyers should know before selecting between Z800 and Striple?

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                  A shot of the Z during my test ride !
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                    Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

                    Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                    Thank you for your valuable inputs.

                    Can't we adjust the suspension setting ? I thought it is adjustable.

                    Also it would be nice if you can pen down a little on Service Expenses, Service Intervals etc.
                    Yes surely we can change the damping for the suspension but that wouldn't lower the height. Will just make ur ride handling more customized as per your need. I got it done towards softer side as to me, riding my bike over bad patches and for longer kms distances turned out to be a huge pain.
                    The stock suspension settings are on a harder side, as far as I can say for myself.
                    And the seats cushion doesn't help a lot. So either you get a gel seat strapped or get accustomed to the stock seat and ride feel.

                    First service tht I got done at 800 kms costed me Rs. 6000. Oil change, Filter cleaning and rest of random checks. No complaints reported and attended as such and was done with the service under 4 hrs.

                    Originally posted by sreehari_r1 View Post
                    Thanks for the post vkashipa and inputs by shashrash. I have few questions:

                    To vkashipa & shashrash,

                    1. What made you select Z800 over street triple? (Let us know even if it is the silliest/negligible reason, since it could be very valuable for the readers).
                    2. I heard that Z800 clutch is harder than Striple. Is that right? If so is it harder than Ninja 250/300?
                    3. How shorter gear in Z800 is affects in the real life and practicality? (+ve & -ve)
                    4. Any other things buyers should know before selecting between Z800 and Striple?
                    1) What made me choose Z800 over Striple... hmmm.. basically nothing related to the bike, it was the callous attitude of Triumph Pune that time which made me shift my interest from Triumph to Kawasaki. I was a huge fan of Striple as I had ridden Street Triple in US once and it was a bomber. SO I was totally into this bike, however, the laid back attitude of the Triumph Pune about providing me with the details of availability of the model, tentative time of delivery, actual On Road price, at the time I was lookin to make a purchase did make me change my mind for z800.
                    Also, I was hugely skeptical to go for an absolutely new player in Indian market after the fiasco of Ducati. Huge brand name but huge disappointment for all current owners and potential buyers.
                    Considering what type of services Triumph will be able to provide me during their early days was also deterring factor for me. So I wanted to wait, let Triumph settle down with all good and then take a call to be an owner.

                    2) Have not ridden Striple for test ride so cant comment on the comparison. However, as a standalone, the clutch of z800 is lill hard on wrist in crawling traffic. The bike being heavy will add to the pressure on your wrists and they can get tired very quickly. (Subjective to all)

                    3) Short gearing does not affect much while you are riding in the city. You hardly get any stretch to red line your bike. Its punchy and can pull you up in any gear so as to say. On the highways, it starte getting a lill viby post 6000 rmp around 130 kms/hr.
                    Personally, what I feel is that the engine of z800 is so refined and smooth that I dont fell like revving it very hard or do red lines all the time. There is a smooth range of around 4000 rpm where one doesnt feel like going hard on throttle and its a superbly cruising speed. Nice sound, adequate feel and comfortable ride.

                    4) Z800 is a fantastick machine and I absolutely love it. However, I will mention some points that I learned as an owner.

                    a) z800 stands out hands down as far as street presence is concerned. Its meaty, muscular and very aggressive. So, looks are a huge plus going for z800.
                    b) z800 is heavy. So plan accordingly and be ready to do sme forearms if you have to move it around a lot in your parking lot. I take huge precaution while parking my bike as I dont want to park it at awkward angles on slopes. I am 5'8" and I tip toe my bike most of the times. So if you are not getting a foot grip and have to balance or maneuver around, it would need some effort.
                    c) z800 stock seat is slippery. and with pillion, its becomes more than the bike that you have to manage.
                    d) striple would be def lighter and hence more agile. Dont forget, no matter what, striple is the MiddleWeight World champion and is a landmark that envies every other product in its class. Since its lighter, it would be easy on your posture and wrist. I think only an owner can emphasize more on this front.
                    e) Seats on striple are more plush and comf then the stock onces on z800
                    f) striple gives you option of colors to choose from and the lime green looks total drool in flesh. I wish, z800 had color options too.


                    both bikes are great and I adore both of them very much. just that it was kawasaki that was destined to be in my garage and not a triumph. May be if things were diff back then whn I was looking for a purchase, I would have had a bonnie or striple with me. However, no remorse and I am more then happy with z800. It gives me that great sense of satisfaction that nothing in the world does.

                    To end on this, I will share an advice when I was in total dilemma about what bike to choose from. He said "Go for a bike that brings an ear to ear smile to your face every time you look at it, ride it and set the wheels roll. Even if your other choice is parked right next to you, you should not feel an iota of sec thought of .."Aaah.. I wish if I had chosen this..." Something that doesnt make u get sleepless by the thought of making a second level choice."
                    So, think very clearly and go for the any one of them only when your heart is convinced. Its an irony tht god has put head over heart for humans, which tends to get lost into logic, had it been other way around, world would have been a much happier place to live in for all.

                    Happy riding..

                    cheerz
                    ride safe and ride hard...
                    Last edited by shashrash; 08-11-2014, 04:29 PM.
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                    ~ A zest for living must include a willingness to die. ~R.A. Heinlein
                    ~ If you think you don't need a helmet, you probably don't.
                    ~ Saddlebags can never hold everything you want, but they CAN hold everything you need.

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                      Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

                      Can anyone from Delhi confirm whether test rides for Z800 are available here?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

                        Originally posted by shashrash View Post
                        Yes surely we can change the damping for the suspension but that wouldn't lower the height. Will just make ur ride handling more customized as per your need. I got it done towards softer side as to me, riding my bike over bad patches and for longer kms distances turned out to be a huge pain.
                        The stock suspension settings are on a harder side, as far as I can say for myself.
                        And the seats cushion doesn't help a lot. So either you get a gel seat strapped or get accustomed to the stock seat and ride feel.

                        First service that I got done at 800 kms costed me Rs. 6000. Oil change, Filter cleaning and rest of random checks. No complaints reported and attended as such and was done with the service under 4 hrs.



                        1) What made me choose Z800 over Striple... hmm.. basically nothing related to the bike, it was the callous attitude of Triumph Pune that time which made me shift my interest from Triumph to Kawasaki. I was a huge fan of Striple as I had ridden Street Triple in US once and it was a bomber. SO I was totally into this bike, however, the laid back attitude of the Triumph Pune about providing me with the details of availability of the model, tentative time of delivery, actual On Road price, at the time I was looking to make a purchase did make me change my mind for z800.
                        Also, I was hugely skeptical to go for an absolutely new player in Indian market after the fiasco of Ducati. Huge brand name but huge disappointment for all current owners and potential buyers.
                        Considering what type of services Triumph will be able to provide me during their early days was also deterring factor for me. So I wanted to wait, let Triumph settle down with all good and then take a call to be an owner.

                        2) Have not ridden Striple for test ride so cant comment on the comparison. However, as a standalone, the clutch of z800 is little hard on wrist in crawling traffic. The bike being heavy will add to the pressure on your wrists and they can get tired very quickly. (Subjective to all)

                        3) Short gearing does not affect much while you are riding in the city. You hardly get any stretch to red line your bike. Its punchy and can pull you up in any gear so as to say. On the highways, it starte getting a lill viby post 6000 rmp around 130 kms/hr.
                        Personally, what I feel is that the engine of z800 is so refined and smooth that I don't fell like revving it very hard or do red lines all the time. There is a smooth range of around 4000 rpm where one doesn't feel like going hard on throttle and its a superbly cruising speed. Nice sound, adequate feel and comfortable ride.

                        4) Z800 is a fantastic machine and I absolutely love it. However, I will mention some points that I learned as an owner.

                        a) z800 stands out hands down as far as street presence is concerned. Its meaty, muscular and very aggressive. So, looks are a huge plus going for z800.
                        b) z800 is heavy. So plan accordingly and be ready to do some forearms if you have to move it around a lot in your parking lot. I take huge precaution while parking my bike as I don't want to park it at awkward angles on slopes. I am 5'8" and I tip toe my bike most of the times. So if you are not getting a foot grip and have to balance or maneuver around, it would need some effort.
                        c) z800 stock seat is slippery. and with pillion, its becomes more than the bike that you have to manage.
                        d) striple would be def lighter and hence more agile. Don't forget, no matter what, striple is the MiddleWeight World champion and is a landmark that envies every other product in its class. Since its lighter, it would be easy on your posture and wrist. I think only an owner can emphasize more on this front.
                        e) Seats on striple are more plush and comf then the stock ones on z800
                        f) striple gives you option of colors to choose from and the lime green looks total drool in flesh. I wish, z800 had color options too.


                        both bikes are great and I adore both of them very much. just that it was Kawasaki that was destined to be in my garage and not a triumph. May be if things were diff back then whn I was looking for a purchase, I would have had a bonnie or striple with me. However, no remorse and I am more then happy with z800. It gives me that great sense of satisfaction that nothing in the world does.

                        To end on this, I will share an advice when I was in total dilemma about what bike to choose from. He said "Go for a bike that brings an ear to ear smile to your face every time you look at it, ride it and set the wheels roll. Even if your other choice is parked right next to you, you should not feel an iota of sec thought of .."Aaah.. I wish if I had chosen this..." Something that doesn't make u get sleepless by the thought of making a second level choice."
                        So, think very clearly and go for the any one of them only when your heart is convinced. Its an irony that god has put head over heart for humans, which tends to get lost into logic, had it been other way around, world would have been a much happier place to live in for all.

                        Happy riding..

                        cheerz
                        ride safe and ride hard...
                        Thank you for your inputs but..

                        I am still confused between Z800 and Triple. Again as you mentioned it is heart v/s head dilemma.
                        The looks/presence of Z800 is what making me incline towards the Z800 but practically S-Triple wins. Per my calculations S-Triple is pocket friendly compared to Z800.

                        S-Triple v/s Z800 - (Purely my opinion)

                        1. Fuel

                        S-Triple run's well on normal fuel where as Z800 requires 95 octane or atleast Super which is 10-20 bucks more per liter of fuel.
                        S-Triple can be refilled at any place. Even remote places no need to worry.

                        2. Service Interval
                        Service Interval of Z800 is 6000kms against 10000kms of S-Triple. It is a good 4000kms difference. 3 (Triple) :5 (Z800) ratio which again can be heavy on pocket with Z800.

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                          Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

                          Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                          Thank you for your inputs but..

                          I am still confused between Z800 and Triple. Again as you mentioned it is heart v/s head dilemma.
                          The looks/presence of Z800 is what making me incline towards the Z800 but practically S-Triple wins. Per my calculations S-Triple is pocket friendly compared to Z800.

                          S-Triple v/s Z800 - (Purely my opinion)

                          1. Fuel

                          S-Triple run's well on normal fuel where as Z800 requires 95 octane or atleast Super which is 10-20 bucks more per liter of fuel.
                          S-Triple can be refilled at any place. Even remote places no need to worry.

                          2. Service Interval
                          Service Interval of Z800 is 6000kms against 10000kms of S-Triple. It is a good 4000kms difference. 3 (Triple) :5 (Z800) ratio which again can be heavy on pocket with Z800.
                          I thought that the Z800 had a service interval of 10K? Anyways, I was too fascinated with Z800, but, after test-riding Striple I am more inclined towards it.

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                            Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

                            Originally posted by AmitRavi07 View Post
                            I thought that the Z800 had a service interval of 10K? Anyways, I was too fascinated with Z800, but, after test-riding Striple I am more inclined towards it.
                            Globally the service interval is at 10k kms, only in India it is 6k kms
                            I am yet to try the Triple. If you get to try the Z800, then let us know your comparison.

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                              Re: Test drive Kawasaki Z800

                              Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                              Globally the service interval is at 10k kms, only in India it is 6k kms
                              I am yet to try the Triple. If you get to try the Z800, then let us know your comparison.
                              If I had to buy it now, then I would have decided on Striple already, but, I am still waiting to see if there are any issues that crop up after a few months in these bikes.

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