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  • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

    After riding Street Triple for 1.5+ years, now I am least bothered about the numbers that bike can achieve! I care more about the speeds I can attain and leaning angles or cornering skill I can acquire. Bike has much higher limits than any normal rider can push on any regular roads. So stop worrying about its bhp and theoretical top speeds!

    Anything above 200 kmph is a hell lot. Stock bike despite many restrictive components still achieves that rather easily. After upgrade, 200+ becomes even much easier!

    So stop comparing # of cylinders, # of bhp, # of RPM and so on...Get on with riding and you will enjoy this bike a lot! That is not to say you can't enjoy other bikes - Z800 or some others are capable as well...But I loved street and I am loving it more the more I ride it.

    By the way, as I keep getting inquiries about the amounts of money I am spending on the bike, I have taken excerpts from my other discussion and putting it here for everyone's information:

    Bike = 8.9 Lakh
    Arrow Exhaust = 24 k
    Fully Open Transition Air Box = 2 k
    Frame/Fork/Swing Arm protectors = 23 k
    Cyclops LED head lights = 12 k
    LED Pilot Lamps = 1.1 k
    Metzeler Tyres = 23K
    Services = 1st and 1 year = 9000+16000 = 25k
    Paddock Stand = 3.1 k

    Riding Gear (Helmet, Gloves, Boots, Jacket, Pants) = 16+9+16.5+30+8 = 79.5 k

    Electronic Accessories (GoPro Session, Sena 20S Blue Tooth Helmet Communicator) = 12 + 16 = 28 k

    Radiator Guard (just purchased) = 7 k


    Still thinking of buying
    Engine Cover Protectors
    Opticoat Colour Protection
    Belly Pan


    Now, add at least Rs 1500 petrol cost per week for last 75 weeks or so as sometimes one does weekend ride and sometimes one doesn't but this is average :-)

    One will also have to keep changing some or the other components in riding gear every 2-3 years depending on wear and tear!

    Basically it is a money sucking white elephant and I have to really find ways to gradually finance all this! One shouldn't get into this segment without sufficient thoughts. I thought for nearly 1.5-2 years before jumping in as my age was also running out and I wanted to do this before becoming old!!
    Last edited by jeevan.chaukar; 04-27-2017, 12:05 AM.

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    • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

      Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post

      By the way, as I keep getting inquiries about the amounts of money I am spending on the bike, I have taken excerpts from my other discussion and putting it here for everyone's information:



      Now, add at least Rs 1500 petrol cost per week for last 75 weeks or so as sometimes one does weekend ride and sometimes one doesn't but this is average :-)

      One will also have to keep changing some or the other components in riding gear every 2-3 years depending on wear and tear!

      Basically it is a money sucking white elephant and I have to really find ways to gradually finance all this! One shouldn't get into this segment without sufficient thoughts. I thought for nearly 1.5-2 years before jumping in as my age was also running out and I wanted to do this before becoming old!!
      a very big applause for putting the numbers here especially the riding gear, aftermkt and running costs. most owners dont do that for whatever reason.
      they are incredibly useful for people trying to save some moolah by going the used route wondering if they can manage the running costs.
      my take is, biggest expense in using a sbk is indeed depreciation. buying preworshipped helps cut it down a lot.
      request you to post /copy this post here also- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...sbk-india.html
      cheers!!
      Last edited by entsurgeon; 04-27-2017, 11:39 AM.

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      • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

        Originally posted by entsurgeon View Post
        a very big applause for putting the numbers here especially the riding gear, aftermkt and running costs. most owners dont do that for whatever reason.
        they are incredibly useful for people trying to save some moolah by going the used route wondering if they can manage the running costs.
        my take is, biggest expense in using a sbk is indeed depreciation. buying preworshipped helps cut it down a lot.
        request you to post /copy this post here also- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...sbk-india.html
        cheers!!
        Thanks!
        I have posted my write up on the suggested forum. Depreciation is inevitable for all assets and for superbikes the depreciation is quite high. But that comes in picture only when you are selling it. But the expenses I have written are going to pinch you throughout .
        New street triple is coming very soon - after that my current bike is surely going to depreciate a lot..I don't care now because I want to ride this one few more years anyway.

        Overall, sky is the limit in terms of expenses on a motorcycle - we have to remain sane and not give in to all the temptations...Thankfully my other habits are fairly simple. No smoking, drinking, partying, pubs and all, not buying crazy amount of electronics like mobiles etc - I am not behind the craze of getting everything latest and greatest - as I am very well aware of my financial limits and have to save for retirement, children's education and all.

        At the same time, I don't want to kill my dreams which are mostly related to biking!

        Next thing I am going to take up is becoming fitter....I had started on that path and got some decent initial results but then I lost the way due to various things...Very soon will restart the same...

        Fitness and body strength is another factor in not choosing a very top end bike even if you have money - one has to have capability to handle physical stress also (though in my case this bike was already a hell lot of expense stopping just short of bankruptcy :-) ).
        Last edited by jeevan.chaukar; 04-29-2017, 08:24 PM.

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        • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

          Hi All,

          One small update:

          I had a test ride of BMW S1000RR in Pune though it was a short ride. They are still doing running in so requested not to exceed 5000 RPM and also didn't give a long ride (very soon it will become possible).

          Even then, it is a phenomenal bike. Really fast, aggressive but manageable in traffic for shorter rides. Comfort surprisingly not too bad for this kind of bike. The brakes are way too much responsive. I still feel MV Agusta F3 and Brutale brakes were even more aggressive - but that one didn't have electronics when I tested. After just 5-7 minutes on this bike, Street Triple felt slow

          If at all anyone has money to spend around 25-30 L then the fight is close between BMW S1000RR and Aprilia RSV4!!

          I don't know when I can upgrade to this segment and if I will upgrade or not...Let us see...Street Triple still remains very practical - BMW S1000RR may be unusable in Hinjewadi or Bangalore kind of traffic but street is usable and far more comfortable. For 30-40 minutes, even a pillion is ok on Street but on S1000RR pillion can't sit more than 5-10 min as it is too uncomfortable and too scary.

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          • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

            Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post
            Thanks!
            I have posted my write up on the suggested forum. Depreciation is inevitable for all assets and for superbikes the depreciation is quite high. But that comes in picture only when you are selling it. But the expenses I have written are going to pinch you throughout .
            New street triple is coming very soon - after that my current bike is surely going to depreciate a lot..I don't care now because I want to ride this one few more years anyway.

            Overall, sky is the limit in terms of expenses on a motorcycle - we have to remain sane and not give in to all the temptations...Thankfully my other habits are fairly simple. No smoking, drinking, partying, pubs and all, not buying crazy amount of electronics like mobiles etc - I am not behind the craze of getting everything latest and greatest - as I am very well aware of my financial limits and have to save for retirement, children's education and all.

            At the same time, I don't want to kill my dreams which are mostly related to biking!

            Next thing I am going to take up is becoming fitter....I had started on that path and got some decent initial results but then I lost the way due to various things...Very soon will restart the same...

            Fitness and body strength is another factor in not choosing a very top end bike even if you have money - one has to have capability to handle physical stress also (though in my case this bike was already a hell lot of expense stopping just short of bankruptcy :-) ).

            Well said. So much relates to my thoughts as well.
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            • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

              what are your thoughts on riding position of both bikes? and heating up of engine?

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              • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

                Originally posted by entsurgeon View Post
                what are your thoughts on riding position of both bikes? and heating up of engine?
                Hey
                Which bike's riding position? Street Triple riding position can be termed as mildly sport oriented and not entirely street commuter riding oriented. But it is fairly comfortable in day to day riding. Also Street Triple is relatively cool bike (even KTM Duke 200 or Pulsar 200 NS throw more heat towards your feet - though now a days I think they also made some modifications to channel away the flow).

                New Street Triple won't deviate from good things that earlier model has but adds much more sophistication (and I heard that it doesn't have that vulnerable plastic coolant tank at the bottom).

                Pricing would be a key! New street will surely be costly.

                If you are talking about BMW S1000RR then obviously it is quite sport/race track oriented aggressive position of riding. Aprilia Tuono 1100 has relatively friendly position and so has BMW S1000R. Aprilia RSV4 is sport/race track oriented as well..Heat will be major factor for any 1000cc bike and not just these...

                That is the reason I am saying these are not suitable as one's daily rides....But these are anyway still very desirable dream machines...

                Update:
                I bought radiator guard (Evotech - Rs 7000). However, I faced unexpected problems in fitting the same! I unmounted all the necessary screws/nut-bolts except one. As soon as I tried to take it out, its philips-head groove gave up and screw driver started rotating around to make it a near circle cavity instead of the screw coming out. This happened despite not applying any significant force for this purpose (I removed exactly same type of other screws with delicate pressure - but one screw still got affected as soon as I tried just a bit extra).
                So, I had to abandon my attempt and refitted all the screws as it is due this single screw. Now I will have to take it to showroom and find a way to take out the rogue screw.
                Last edited by jeevan.chaukar; 05-28-2017, 10:24 PM.

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                  • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

                    Originally posted by ammaity View Post
                    DIY abba stand
                    This is interesting as a concept but I didn't fully understand - as I can't see this as keeping the swing-arm up in the photo. Are you able to use this stand for chain cleaning etc?

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                    • Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

                      Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post
                      This is interesting as a concept but I didn't fully understand - as I can't see this as keeping the swing-arm up in the photo. Are you able to use this stand for chain cleaning etc?
                      I don't know whenever I try to upload pictures using my mobile inspite of selecting best quality, I always end up with these blurry images.

                      Yes the stand can be used with for more than just cleaning your chain. Search in google for abba motorcycle stand. I didn't want to invest on this because I want a Bursig centre lift stand. It's too expensive so shall take my time to find out if only I need that stand. I like doing DIY so will start investing on tools too. Also ordered the BAFX obd2 scanner.
                      Last edited by ammaity; 06-04-2017, 06:42 PM.

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                      • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

                        Originally posted by ammaity View Post
                        I don't know whenever I try to upload pictures using my mobile inspite of selecting best quality, I always end up with these blurry images.

                        Yes the stand can be used with for more than just cleaning your chain. Search in google for abba motorcycle stand. I didn't want to invest on this because I want a Bursig centre lift stand. It's too expensive so shall take my time to find out if only I need that stand. I like doing DIY so will start investing on tools too. Also ordered the BAFX obd2 scanner.
                        Ok, I did see the ABBA stand - I think a good idea would be to actually buy one specimen of this and then get similar ones manufactured in India from a professional workshop (or you can do it if you have own workshop). One suggestion could be to connect with GA Engineering of Mumbai - I got my paddock stand from GA Engg.

                        Update

                        With the onset of monsoon being quite strong around Pune region, my bike is currently under wraps..I rode it in rain just once and the aftermath was quite tedious! Cleaning of riding gear, helmet and the bike itself is rather painful! So will wait and watch for few days till there is some respite from the rain! Of course, this is the best season for normal trekking and visiting nearby forts etc...Just not right for a bike like Street Triple.

                        Update

                        Surprisingly, one of the LED headlights (Cyclops brand) has lost its LOW BEAM. High beam is still working. As this is just about 1 year or less from the time I bought these expensive lights, I was worried. I have contacted the seller and he has assured me that I should not worry and there will be replacement done - it is expected to take 5-7 days. Ideally Cyclops lights are supposed to last several thousand hours of illumination - which means almost all the life-time of the bike itself.

                        Will keep you posted.
                        Last edited by jeevan.chaukar; 07-09-2017, 07:01 PM.

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                        • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

                          Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post

                          Update

                          Surprisingly, one of the LED headlights (Cyclops brand) has lost its LOW BEAM. High beam is still working. As this is just about 1 year or less from the time I bought these expensive lights, I was worried. I have contacted the seller and he has assured me that I should not worry and there will be replacement done - it is expected to take 5-7 days. Ideally Cyclops lights are supposed to last several thousand hours of illumination - which means almost all the life-time of the bike itself.

                          Will keep you posted.
                          Latest Update

                          The seller (Harshal - Biking Superstore, Balewadi, Pune - Mumbai Bangalore Highway opposite of Balewadi stadium) informed me that replacement arrived. He gave me brand new original Cyclops bulb after opening the new package in front of me as a replacement of my existing one. In fact the new one has higher Lumens rating than the old one.

                          I have bought many things from this particular seller and this increases my trust on him further. He now also runs UM motorcycles showroom at the same place.

                          So now the bug has both its eyes in working condition and the new one is even brighter

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                            After much thought, reading and watching reviews for what felt like eternity, finally bought the Street Triple 765 S.
                            I could have created a new blog a new thread for the street triple 765 however I feel Jeevan sir’s review is an honest one with no frills one and adding it to this thread would give a mature perspective to both the models – 675 and 765. Also the fact that the decision to go for Street Triple 765 was heavily based on the Street Triple 675.


                            To give the readers a brief history yours truly first had Royal Enfield Electra with gear on the right side, purchased from Army CSD for INR 56000 drove it for 8 years and then modified it with Vardenchi for additional INR 80000 but was unhappy with the modifications then sold it for 65k. Then in 2013 bought KTM duke 390, booked it without a test drive after watching and reading reviews.


                            The thought to own a superbike was a long one for the past three years. During this time had waited and watched numerous reviews for Ducati Monster, Kawasaki Z800 and ofcourse Triumph Street Triple. In general would surf for any new bike launches that would be of interest.


                            In Dec 2016, after thoroughly analyzing my finances decided its time to move from virtual reviews to the showrooms to test drive the bikes. On paper the Kawasaki z800 was the convincing option and on one Sunday visited the Pune showroom in Koregaon park. At that time it was a small shop not did not exactly have a showroom look. The day I visited the shop, test ride bike was not available. However they did give out the quote for the outgoing z800 and were not quite sure when the z900 will be launched. I did share my number with them and had requested them to share any news on Z900. Never got any call from Kawasaki probably they did not think of me as a serious buyer.


                            Ducati option died down gradually and I never visited the showroom because frankly though the reviews on youtube and their styling was cool the price never convinced me. Out of the three options Ducati was the costliest. Infact the pricing still defies logic – Kawasaki 4 cylinder bike costs the least among the three, and Ducati with 2 clyinders is the costliest option. I guess Italian bikes are out there to be appreciated for styling.


                            Finally visited Triumph and test drove the Street triple 675, had read reviews that it is de-tuned version and has 80 bhp, however during the test drive did not feel it to be under powered and felt it to be a good option to upgrade from the current KTM 390. I also felt that after my riding experience with KTM 390 the TST would obviously be a calculated upgrade which I would be able to handle. I decided to go for it


                            The first thing I did was put advertisements on OLX to sell my KTM 390 met couple of serious buyers but then it never materialized because KTM had also announced an upgraded model around the same time and I was not getting a good price for my bike. This caused delay of several weeks and around the same time there was news of the upgraded Triumph Street 765. Thought it to best to wait for the new model to come.


                            Last week of April 2017 got a call from Cyril - Triumph Sales who had been frequently sharing updates on the upcoming launch of Triumph Street Triple. Cyril informed that that they are accepting booking for Triumph Street Triple 765 and we can expect the delivery in 3 months. I drove down to the B U Bhandari Showroom the same day and booked. Ashwin Deshpande managing the showroom assured that 3 months is tentative and it could be delivered even earlier.
                            In between Triumph dealer B U Bhandari was also kind enough and gave Triumph street twin one one of the weekend ride to Lonavala. Though never thought of the street twin as an option, the lonavala ride helped me appreciate the bike, it is hands down the most comfortable bike with a linear pull and offers immense confidence to new bikers to go on long rides. I can bet that even after day long ride on street twin would not leave you sore or tired.
                            In the meanwhile dropped the idea to sell my KTM 390 decided to keep it.

                            23rd June Triumph Street Triple was officially launched and got invited for the launch event by virtue of being one of the initial few buyers who had booked.


                            Then the GST storm came over and there was news that the prices may be revised post 30th June, so had to rush, eventually finance was sorted and managed to pay the full price on the last day of June 2017. (Apparently post GST, prices have not been spiked, Triumph has managed to keep the price stable by reworking on the handling and other charges) Got the bike VIN number the same day and within a week the bike was to arrive in the showroom.
                            There is a extensive check list that the bike undergoes before it is delivered. The bike is also ridden for 5 - 10 kms as part of delivery checks before it is handed over. Took the bike on 12 July without the registration number. For Registration in PCMC area, the bike has to be physically taken to the RTO and inspected by RTO officer. B U Bhandari RTO agents helped throughout however you have to spend like half a day for the less then 5 mins inspection of the chassis number.


                            Those in Pune know how it has been raining inaccesssently for the past four weeks so haven't had much chance to ride however the itch to ride got better of me and ignoring the weather forecast have been taking out the bike. The price to pay is you have to spend lot of time cleaning the bike post the ride and still there will be some speck of dirt in some part of engine. The front mudguard is very small and kicks up dirt right in the centre of the radiator, the rear tyre doesn't spare any part of the bike either. In the initial few rides have managed to scrap the underbelly of the bike on few speed breakers good that I learnt it soon. Still deciding on which accessories to go for.


                            Have to clock 800 kms for the first servicing … till then patiently looking towards the sky for a clear sunny day …good bye.
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                            • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

                              congratulations.
                              would like to point out that youtube bike reviewers powerdrift took her to dynamometer to ensure this one has full engine power and yes, they came up with 98 rwbhp.
                              i do agree that 80 and 110 bhp on a streets is nearly impossible to differentiate.
                              The lightest, the most powerful and the most well equipped Street Triple is now in India. Its new suite of electronics include riding modes, ride-by-wire and...

                              check at around 1.00 onwards
                              Last edited by entsurgeon; 07-29-2017, 04:28 PM.

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                              • Re: Red Rose - my new Triumph Street Triple 675 RED!

                                Originally posted by entsurgeon View Post
                                congratulations.
                                would like to point out that youtube bike reviewers powerdrift took her to dynamometer to ensure this one has full engine power and yes, they came up with 98 rwbhp.
                                i do agree that 80 and 110 bhp on a streets is nearly impossible to differentiate.
                                The lightest, the most powerful and the most well equipped Street Triple is now in India. Its new suite of electronics include riding modes, ride-by-wire and...

                                check at around 1.00 onwards
                                I recon this hp debate has been discussed to the death already.
                                Dyno shown here and in other videos dsnt say they are putting forward rwhp. In fact 98 would be too much of an rwhp for a claimed 110 bhp bike.
                                Dynos can be made to show practically anything the operator wants. Specially local made dynos like from rd are pretty easy to feed in whatever correction factor one wants.
                                Until someone can come up with ARAI type approval documents saying its a 110bhp bike , it will stay below 80 bhp officially.
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