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    It's been sometime I rode a bike and was badly missing riding in general and the Duke in particular.
    Almost one and a half years here in the UK and each time I saw someone ride past, I felt agony,despair and desire in equal measure.

    A part of me would try to reason and say-
    "wait! Don't be silly, you don't know how long you gonna stay here, don't splash out, not worth the financial hit and the trouble."

    Another voice from inside would whisper-
    "mate,come on don''t listen to him(and the wife!) and scratch your itch, you can always sell the damn thing and move on, it's been more than an year, how long does he want to hold you back?"

    Wifey obviously was not too keen on a bike, has never been for that matter! The stupidity costs money not only buying it but running and maintenance as well. This could well be spent planning for future. Yeah yeah, still on rent whereas colleagues and friends buying swanky apartments in upmarket places! But then she wasn't too keen on the duke as well, eventually relenting then and I somehow know how to pull the puppy face with only begging eyes and without droopy ears !


    Okay so I'd get myself a bike then. But wait! There was a problem. I needed a UK A license.
    A UK-not-obtainable-by-paying-an-agent-Rs1500-license.
    UK, like other European countries use a tiered license structure and I had to get myself an A license via DAS -Direct access Scheme for people older than 24 years, allowing you to ride a bike of any class with any power without any prior riding experience.
    You can use your Indian license for 1 year from the date of entry but not after that.This was a problem. Getting a license is an expensive affair here, like most other things here really!
    You need to enrol in a riding school to get a bike to take the test in. Of course you can buy a bike and avoid a school, but insuring it for a test on a provisional license won't be cheap,especially for an expat who has spent less than 2 years in UK. Add to that the inconvenience of hiring a van and taking it to the test centre.
    So I joined a school. Opted for the shortest course-2 day advanced for people with very good riding experience-and imagined it to be a breeze!
    In hindsight, joining a school was absolutely necessary. Here's why:

    The UK license test is a 3 part test:

    1)CBT(Compulsary Basic Training) : Starting point for any rider. One day training where bike basics are taught and an observed ride in the end of it.
    One can choose to ride around on a 125 with L plates on a provisional license without bothering further tests etc!

    2)Theory- It's not much unlike what we have in India, road signs, rules etc. But has an extra in the form of a 'Hazard perception Test'. You
    are shown 14 video clips and you need to respond when you see a hazard. This would assess your reflexes and road riding nous and your ability to
    respond to situations on road.


    3)Module 1: You are tested in a closed circuit for your Bike manoeuvring skills on a bike making not less than 53BHP and min capacity of 595CC(For A license)
    You'd be asked to do slaloms, figure of eights, emergency stops, swerves, controlles stops, turnings etc. I think we have these in India as well, but noone is asked to do all of these!Of course, you are asked to observe all road rules, so your lifesavers(shoulder checks) are absolutely vital, miss one and you fail.


    4)Module 2: Actual Road riding is tested. An examiner would follow you and blare out instructions on a radio and observe your every move.
    15 minor faults allowed, but one major fault and you fail.


    I aced the theory test.The multiple choice questions regarding road signs and rules were easy enough.The hazard perception test is often found tricky by UK guys, but someone who has riding experience in India
    would find it easy given the constant alacrity required while on the roads. So I backed myself and didn't loose my sleep over it. I did well.
    For mod 1 and 2,I was given a Honda CBF 600 for training by the school and I felt immediately at home even though it was my first inline 4 experience. Very docile and well behaved, didn't feel overwhelmed at all(of course never got to feel the top end). It was a bit heavy, but the slaloms and eights were a easy enough and instructor was pleased. he said, you'd have no problems with your Mod 1, let's go out for a road ride and see how you ride on actual roads,should be good on the evidence till now. I was almost cocky thinking how can riding in country be difficult which follows keep left!
    After 15 minutes on road, my hubris was exposed.He said that was the worst riding he had seen by a student in ages.
    I was gutted. But he was right. I was riding like a moron.

    Riding here was a completely different affair than riding in India. Most follow the rules and expect you to follow as well.Strict lane discipline is observed.
    And roundabouts! God, I hated them. They look exactly the ones we have back home, but apparently, you can't simply squeeze your way in. You can't enter if one is already in, need to signal as per your exit and then enter ythe correct lane after your exit.
    Phew! Quantum mechanics is much simpler.

    So I headed home like a defeated warrior after swallowing my pride and falses sense of being a good rider shattered. Had to gather my bearings for Mod 1 which was roundthe corner.
    I cleared Mod-1 with flying colours and zero rider faults.Not a surprise as I was very comfortable with all the manoeuvres, but did help in boosting confidence.Mod 2 was a week away and I had only 6 hours of training to get me prepared.In my instructors word, a lucky day and a lot of prayers would be required.
    I had to make progress. Internalized the instructor's observations and suggestions.Of course prayed a lot to God. I told myself, hey I can ride a bike, just need to get the road sense here. Did a lot better in the final session with the instructor.He was pleasantly surprised.Somehow convinced the examiner I can ride safely on UK roads. Either that, or he was an Indophile.

    So I finally was a licensed UK motorcycle rider. Elated, I immediately bought the bike I had long before reserved, the same day. A colleague was selling off his (faired)bike due to back problems wanting to get a naked for an upright riding position. I am not going to bore you more with the 'which-bike-decision-process', just the fact that I was initially almost certain to buy a 1998-1999 Honda CB600F hornet.It's a parts bin special and is super popular among new riders.That round headlamp and that lovely tank pulled my heartstrings somehow. I am a sucker for sharp cuts and creases(read KTMs), but something in that old hack, may be the angular tank resembling a hornet's thorax, the upswept exhaust may be,the fireblade rear wheel perhaps,or plain simple minimalist looks appealed to me. Of course a good example of that old a model could be had for as less as GBP 1000 meant it was dirt cheap.
    But then a colleague responded to one of mails to the biking group on company email asking for advice and I was sold on the Honda CBR 600F4i 2003 model he wanted to sell. I realized why Honda has this reputation of awesome build quality.
    It looked and felt almost pristine. Nowhere near a 13 year old bike. It looked almost as good as my 3 year old Duke. And it sounded better.
    I realized I am not getting any younger and would possibly be in worse shape to ride sportsbike in future. Plus it was a do it all bike, the middleweight equivalent of the recently launched R15 v2 S. So wifey would hate it less and would agree riding
    on tours, fuel economy would be okay too and it had enough power for me. It looked a million bucks too.

    And that's how ladies and gentlemen, the CeeBeeAar came home.

    They don't make bikes like these anymore. It has aluminium frame, fully adjustable suspension(both front and back) and HISS to deter theft.
    The previous owner plonked a scorpion slip-on and a scottoiler as well. I am not complaining

    Specs Sheet:

    Make Model Honda CBR 600F4i
    Year 2001
    Engine Four stroke, Transverse four cylinder, DOHC, 4 valve per cylinder.
    Capacity 599
    Bore x Stroke 67 x 42.5 mm
    Coolling System Liquid cooled
    Compression Ratio 12.0:1
    Lubrication system Wet sump
    Motor Oil Semi-Synthetic, 10W/40
    Induction Electronic fuel injection
    Ignition Digital transistorized3 dimensional mapping computer-controlled.
    Spark Plug NGK, IMR9A-9H
    Battery YTX9-BS
    Starting Electric
    Max Power 110.2 hp / 81 kW @ 12500 rpm
    Max Torque 6.6 kgf-m / 65 Nm @ 10500 rpm
    Clutch Wet, multiple discs, cable operated
    Transmission 6 Speed
    Final Drive #525 O-ring-sealed chain
    Gear Ratio 6th 26/ 23 (1.130:1) 5th 25/ 20 (1.250:1) 4th 27/ 19 (1.421:1) 3rd 28/ 17 (1.647:1) 2nd 33/ 16 (2.062:1) 1st 34/ 12 (2.833:1)
    Frame Aluminium, twin spar
    Front Suspension 43mm fully adjustable cartridge-type fork
    Front Wheel Travel 120mm / 4.7 in
    Rear Suspension Pro-Link featuring fully adjustable gas-charged remote reservoir damper
    Rear Wheel Travel 120mm / 4.7 in
    Front Brakes 2x 296mm discs 4 piston calipers
    Rear Brakes Single 220mm disc 1 piston caliper
    Front Tyre 120/70 ZR17
    Rear Tyre 180/55 ZR17
    Trail 96.5 mm / 3.8 in
    Dimensions Length 2060mm
    Width 685mm / 26.9 in
    Height 1135 mm / 44.6 in
    Wheelbase 1386 mm / 54.9 in
    Ground Clearance 135 mm / 5.3 in
    Seat Height 805 mm / 31.9 in
    Dry Weight 169 kg / 370 lbs
    Wet Weight 193 kg / 425.5 lbs
    Fuel Capacity 18 Liters / 4.2 gal
    Consumption average 19 km/lit
    Braking 60 - 0 / 100 - 0 13.6 m / 39 m
    Standing Mile 11.7 sec / 199 km/h
    Top Speed 256.3 km/h
    Reviews Motorbikes Today
    Manual blackbears.ru
    Some pictures of my pride and Joy!

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    Last edited by Doga; 03-09-2016, 03:49 AM.
    The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

    My Touring Logs-
    French Riviera
    https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
    Scotland-
    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
    France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
    KTM chronicles-
    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

  • #2
    re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

    Thread Approved

    Congrats on the new motorcycle and passing the riding test as well

    How much did it all cost, licence, motorcycle etc.? Did you pick up riding gear in the UK itself?
    Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

    Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

    Touring Blog: Cycling in Mongolia!

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    • #3
      re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

      Congrats dude, that goofy grin on your face says it all! The F4i is indeed a very good choice for an entry to superbikes. Very versatile, fast enough to scare you and reliable.

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      • #4
        re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

        Happy Riding, man! God i miss the UK.
        have fun...

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        • #5
          re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

          Originally posted by The Monk View Post
          Thread Approved

          Congrats on the new motorcycle and passing the riding test as well

          How much did it all cost, licence, motorcycle etc.? Did you pick up riding gear in the UK itself?
          Thanks Monk.

          UK license: GBP 600
          Bike: Will PM you. Can't publish here as need to sell later
          Insuarnce: GBP 450
          Gear : Approx GBP 800 (some of it was bought last year, so immediate hit was a bit less)

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          Originally posted by HarryD View Post
          Congrats dude, that goofy grin on your face says it all! The F4i is indeed a very good choice for an entry to superbikes. Very versatile, fast enough to scare you and reliable.
          Thanks man. I am sticking to the speed limits for now. The roads are enough to scare me for now, don't need speed for that

          Originally posted by imaginesaran View Post
          Happy Riding, man! God i miss the UK.
          have fun...
          Thanks!
          The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

          My Touring Logs-
          French Riviera
          https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
          Scotland-
          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
          France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
          KTM chronicles-
          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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          • #6
            re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

            @Doga, congrats on your new acquisition. And boy does the bug look sweet. Love the way the bike has been cared for, all in a pretty sweet deal. Now's the time for real hubris.

            Ride safe!

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • #7
              re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

              Originally posted by imaginesaran View Post
              Happy Riding, man! God i miss the UK.
              have fun...
              Don't need to miss the UK that much...In UK in fact you can't legally ride very fast. In India, what is legal and what people actually do is a different thing always - so if you find right spots, you can ride fast without much trouble as long as you are very careful and ride in off peak hours on open highways.

              If at all you want to feel real thrill of very high speed on bike (or in a car for that matter) then the only place in the entire world is GERMANY with its famous Auto-bahn! Legally you can do top speeds in certain segments of the road - and there are many of those...IT is quite safe also to ride there as majority of riders and drivers are fast but really skilled...

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              • #8
                re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post
                Don't need to miss the UK that much...In UK in fact you can't legally ride very fast. In India, what is legal and what people actually do is a different thing always - so if you find right spots, you can ride fast without much trouble as long as you are very careful and ride in off peak hours on open highways.

                If at all you want to feel real thrill of very high speed on bike (or in a car for that matter) then the only place in the entire world is GERMANY with its famous Auto-bahn! Legally you can do top speeds in certain segments of the road - and there are many of those...IT is quite safe also to ride there as majority of riders and drivers are fast but really skilled...


                Yes I agree. Speed limits are strictly enforced here. Legally you cant cross 70mph anywhere in the UK.If you do cross, then a fear of a letter from the police with photo of your bike and a fine and summons to appear in a court would drive you crazy for next 2 weeks. There are some roads where you can hope to have some fun but there can always be a copper with a handheld speed gun hiding behind the bushes.

                What you do have here is a smattering of circuits of all sizes where you can go every weekend and ride your own bike or rent one. Of course would not be cheap if done every other weekend.

                The thing about autobahns is they are like expressways connecting major towns and cities. So not practical to do them every now and then. Which leaves good old India where you can always have fun and do some unmentionable speeds only on open and clear roads with safety always on your mind like most xbhpians say they do😁. If you are caught which is very unlikely none of us would think twice before doing what we hate others do the most: Bribe your way out of trouble😉 Hell I used to rip my duke on eastern expressway to the limit almost every night on my way back home(on most days I used to return well past midnight).
                Last edited by Doga; 03-09-2016, 02:54 AM.
                The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                My Touring Logs-
                French Riviera
                https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                Scotland-
                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                KTM chronicles-
                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                • #9
                  re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                  Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post
                  Don't need to miss the UK that much...In UK in fact you can't legally ride very fast. In India, what is legal and what people actually do is a different thing always - so if you find right spots, you can ride fast without much trouble as long as you are very careful and ride in off peak hours on open highways.

                  If at all you want to feel real thrill of very high speed on bike (or in a car for that matter) then the only place in the entire world is GERMANY with its famous Auto-bahn! Legally you can do top speeds in certain segments of the road - and there are many of those...IT is quite safe also to ride there as majority of riders and drivers are fast but really skilled...
                  As far as speed is concerned, yes, Indians are currently lucky, to have the roads and not be caught! But you have crazy people on the road too. Makes you want to think twice.
                  But 160-180 is easy today in India. And some roads are brilliant. Like the newly built NH 47 in Coimbatore.

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                  • #10
                    re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                    A good read. Congrats on your bike and ride safe.
                    A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

                    Weekend Rides Around Kolkata
                    My Ride To Sunderbans -
                    Hemnagar & Samsernagar
                    Saagar Kinare - Bakkhali Calling

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                    • #11
                      re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                      Congrats for getting the bike. It looks almost brand new expect the styling maybe, although this is good looking to me.
                      How is the refinement, power etc after all these years?

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                      • #12
                        re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                        Originally posted by imaginesaran View Post
                        As far as speed is concerned, yes, Indians are currently lucky, to have the roads and not be caught! But you have crazy people on the road too. Makes you want to think twice.
                        But 160-180 is easy today in India. And some roads are brilliant. Like the newly built NH 47 in Coimbatore.
                        Yes, we have simply too much stupid stuff going on at very unexpected places on the road..But yes, today India does have some magnificent roads on which one can ride quite fast and there are many people who are indeed doing it. It surely is risky - no doubt - but better than not having done it at all.

                        If you think about it, except Germany, in all other countries, legally it makes no sense to own anything better than Hyundai i10 kind of car or at the most Pulsar 180-200 kind of bike. But anyway, people do own bigger cars and bikes and they do go fast anyways - so Indians are not the only ones taking risks.

                        I mean, come on, in USA, what can you really do with a Ford Mustang - the iconic American Muscle Car? Speed limit of 70 MPH? I think that car would far exceed that in 1st gear only! LEt us not even talk about Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari etc! Same for bikes..Even Honda CBR 250 R - which is sold in India - exceeds 150 Km/hr which is still above US speed limits...A bike like Kawasaki ZX10R goes 160 kmph or 100 MPH in FIRST gear!!

                        So at least in India for few milliseconds, I have my chances!

                        By the way, I have driven various cars in the USA, Germany and India. I rode bike in Germany and India - and currently of course riding my Triumph Street Triple in India.
                        Loving every bit of it...I also try to wear as much safety gear as possible and try to stay out of trouble to my best level..

                        Any person who really wishes to experience what high speed means - has to visit German Auto-bahn at least once in his/her life!

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                        • #13
                          re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                          Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post
                          Yes, we have simply too much stupid stuff going on at very unexpected places on the road..But yes, today India does have some magnificent roads on which one can ride quite fast and there are many people who are indeed doing it. It surely is risky - no doubt - but better than not having done it at all.

                          If you think about it, except Germany, in all other countries, legally it makes no sense to own anything better than Hyundai i10 kind of car or at the most Pulsar 180-200 kind of bike. But anyway, people do own bigger cars and bikes and they do go fast anyways - so Indians are not the only ones taking risks.

                          Any person who really wishes to experience what high speed means - has to visit German Auto-bahn at least once in his/her life!
                          Any person who really wishes to experince what high speed means can also take his bike/car to a track.

                          Well not sure why we have to keep on bringing speed here? Speed may not be the(only?) reason he was missing UK in the first place? It could be much much better roads, riding without fear of someone jumping right in front, much better traffic conditions and respect for traffic rules and regulations in general ?
                          You can do some good speeds in India without getting caught on a handful of highways. Ok I get it. But what about the 95% time you are made to ride in absolute shit roads? Day in day out? Bone jarring potholes and gravel filled road? Besides, as I said before, you can always track your bike in one of the plethora of tracks in the UK. Wherever you may be, you are never too far from a decent track. Go there and have your fill. Not to mention the much better level of service available for your bike. When it comes to India, we are talking about one of the most dangerous roads in the world remember. ....We all love our shenanigans every now and then and even in the UK you have places and stretches where you can let go(if you are lucky without getting caught ), but lets not only think that superbikes should be bought only for illegal speeds on public roads.

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                          Originally posted by JacobJ View Post
                          Congrats for getting the bike. It looks almost brand new expect the styling maybe, although this is good looking to me.
                          How is the refinement, power etc after all these years?
                          It's super smooth, at least in the lower revs where I have been finding myself riding usually. The first gear is slightly clunky, but the other 5 are butter smooth and precise.
                          I keep on hearing from fellow bikers that these(and others like it)yesteryear bikes have awesome build quality, unlike what manufacturers are dishing out now.This is a Japan built bike so has tremendous quality.The bike is completely rust free and has zero vibes. My 3 year old duke vibrates more. But yeah, my views may change once I properly experience the upper rev range. After 8k, this bike becomes mad , so I have only seen the sane part of the bike
                          I could have had a much newer bike(a 2010 Yamaha FZ-6 and I like my nakeds more than faired) at almost the same price range, but I chose the Honda given the awesome reputation this model enjoys, the great condition of this example and that I thought why not try something different while my back still allows
                          The hero always RIDES into the sunset!

                          My Touring Logs-
                          French Riviera
                          https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                          Scotland-
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                          France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                          KTM chronicles-
                          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                          • #14
                            re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                            Originally posted by Doga View Post
                            Any person who really wishes to experince what high speed means can also take his bike/car to a track.

                            Well not sure why we have to keep on bringing speed here? Speed may not be the(only?) reason he was missing UK in the first place? It could be much much better roads, riding without fear of someone jumping right in front, much better traffic conditions and respect for traffic rules and regulations in general ?
                            You can do some good speeds in India without getting caught on a handful of highways. Ok I get it. But what about the 95% time you are made to ride in absolute shit roads? Day in day out? Bone jarring potholes and gravel filled road? Besides, as I said before, you can always track your bike in one of the plethora of tracks in the UK. Wherever you may be, you are never too far from a decent track. Go there and have your fill. Not to mention the much better level of service available for your bike. When it comes to India, we are talking about one of the most dangerous roads in the world remember. ....We all love our shenanigans every now and then and even in the UK you have places and stretches where you can let go(if you are lucky without getting caught ), but lets not only think that superbikes should be bought only for illegal speeds on public roads.

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                            It's super smooth, at least in the lower revs where I have been finding myself riding usually. The first gear is slightly clunky, but the other 5 are butter smooth and precise.
                            I keep on hearing from fellow bikers that these(and others like it)yesteryear bikes have awesome build quality, unlike what manufacturers are dishing out now.This is a Japan built bike so has tremendous quality.The bike is completely rust free and has zero vibes. My 3 year old duke vibrates more. But yeah, my views may change once I properly experience the upper rev range. After 8k, this bike becomes mad , so I have only seen the sane part of the bike
                            I could have had a much newer bike(a 2010 Yamaha FZ-6 and I like my nakeds more than faired) at almost the same price range, but I chose the Honda given the awesome reputation this model enjoys, the great condition of this example and that I thought why not try something different while my back still allows
                            Well, I just made a casual comment and you seem overly sensitive about my comments on UK. Anyway, it isn't my intention to compare India with UK at all. We have bad roads and all that. But then my choices were:
                            1) Wait till ALL roads in India become like developed country and then buy a super bike - basically my life will be over by that time...

                            2) Go to a developed country because of the discipline cleanliness and more money etc - and buy super bike there - have been to other countries and those are all nice, all photos are beautiful..Nice cars and bikes at affordable prices...But it is missing one critical thing - my people and that feeling that "yes, I belong here, this is my motherland" - something that no amount of money can substitute - some people may even call this emotional b******* and I don't care!

                            3) Stay in India, be close to family, friends etc, still earn a decent money and without waiting further, buy a super bike right here...Enjoy whatever best opportunities one gets to ride at higher speed as long as you don't endanger others and yourself (thankfully this is possible now a days)...Occasionally when you travel to another country, don't miss chances to ride/drive there too

                            I took #3 very consciously - that's all - despite all drawbacks, I love to be here....

                            Now coming to our favourite topic - that is bikes...Yes, you have chosen well, you got to take the bike to track (or may be go for a trip around Europe on this bike and take it to Germany!) and enjoy its top end - where the real fun would be...

                            By the way, in general, can UK folks take their bikes to ISLE OF MAN and go around the famous road circuit? Do that if possible All the best...

                            For me if a super bike is bought, I have to get chance at least occasionally to go really fast on it..Else no point...Otherwise I was quite happy with KTM Duke 200 also - in its own way, it is a very good motorcycle...Super fun..felt almost like good old 2-strokers...

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                              re: Doga's stable- CBR600F4i, Aprilia RSV Mille Gen1 and ZX10R Gen 1

                              Originally posted by jeevan.chaukar View Post
                              Well, I just made a casual comment and you seem overly sensitive about my comments on UK. Anyway, it isn't my intention to compare India with UK at all. We have bad roads and all that. But then my choices were:1) Wait till ALL roads in India become like developed country and then buy a super bike - basically my life will be over by that time...2) Go to a developed country because of the discipline cleanliness and more money etc - and buy super bike there - have been to other countries and those are all nice, all photos are beautiful..Nice cars and bikes at affordable prices...But it is missing one critical thing - my people and that feeling that "yes, I belong here, this is my motherland" - something that no amount of money can substitute - some people may even call this emotional b******* and I don't care!3) Stay in India, be close to family, friends etc, still earn a decent money and without waiting further, buy a super bike right here...Enjoy whatever best opportunities one gets to ride at higher speed as long as you don't endanger others and yourself (thankfully this is possible now a days)...Occasionally when you travel to another country, don't miss chances to ride/drive there too I took #3 very consciously - that's all - despite all drawbacks, I love to be here....Now coming to our favourite topic - that is bikes...Yes, you have chosen well, you got to take the bike to track (or may be go for a trip around Europe on this bike and take it to Germany!) and enjoy its top end - where the real fun would be...By the way, in general, can UK folks take their bikes to ISLE OF MAN and go around the famous road circuit? Do that if possible All the best...For me if a super bike is bought, I have to get chance at least occasionally to go really fast on it..Else no point...Otherwise I was quite happy with KTM Duke 200 also - in its own way, it is a very good motorcycle...Super fun..felt almost like good old 2-strokers...
                              You got me wrong there man. All I said that it doesn't make sense(at least to me) saying superbikes don't make sense where strict speed limits are observed and implemented. Going by that there'd be no supercar/superbike sales in the western world. India is taking baby steps towards implementing traffic rules effectively and may not be as rosy in a few years time and this shouldn't dissuade people from buying big bikes.While I was still there,tickets based on offences caught on camera had started on palm beach road in Navi Mumbai and I think some car driver from Chembur was the first person who was handed such a ticket. It was a pilot and not sure where is that now, but we are certainly headed in that direction. Clearly it'd take many years, but should superbikers start worrying about it because they can't speed? Again, I don't like to preach what I don't practice, but frankly if someone doesn't buy a superbike because he can't speed on public roads then clearly something is wrong?
                              btw my wife will swear by the fact that I am the most selfish, self centered and insensitive guy the world has ever seen. Don't think I'd ever be sensitive about positive/negative comments about anything, much less a country I don't call my own and would soon leave after my assignment here is over.
                              Re taking it to isle of man, I am afraid I missed the boat, literally. The Steampacket service from Liverpool/Heysham gets booked real quick during the TT and if you are taking your bike then always advisable to book your place in advance as most guys do book for the next TT during the current one. Crazy stuff! I did visit last year(need to post pictures), obviously didn't have a bike and it was amazing. I can only imagine what Mad Sunday would be on one's own bike. Someday surely!

                              Enjoy your streeple mate. Wishing you long happy miles on it. Lovely (Brit)bike that
                              Last edited by Doga; 03-12-2016, 03:13 AM.
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