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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
    I never thought my return to xbhp would be this way but it is what it is.

    So you honestly believe that 2 strokes are dodos? too bad. You talk about love? There is no love without labor, without wait and without sacrifice. Owning a two stroke is not about going faster or getting mileage out of the engine. it is about the pride and satisfaction and feel of the motorcycle.

    If someone does not want a two stroke bike then it is good. Leave it for someone who actually appreciates them. Please don't go on and compare two strokes with bikes like duke or cbr because if two strokes were built with today's resources it would be the same people, as in you, who would question the existence of four strokes. Please learn how to compare bikes with relevancy.

    You have mentioned that duke does what the two strokes do in a better way. Exactly what does it do better? it has a better power band rush? It can be tweaked better or is it that it runs endlessly without maintenance for 20 years? It runs faster you say? compared to what? which two stroke? I do not recall India having a 200 cc single cylinder two stroke bike ever. If we had dt200r, it200 or even the RS200 we could compare them to the duke. If we do that then the duke looks like a really under powered machine.

    You can not seriously compare two motorcycles from different eras(as told recently by a good friend). Duke being compared to bikes that are 20 years old and half its engine capacity, that itself is a testament to the resiliency of the two strokes. Two strokes are better engines as they have much fewer moving parts hence much better life cycle. It does not hurt that it makes twice the power compared to a similar capacity four stroke engine.

    @2stroke: RX would be the saner choice as consumable spares are still available abundantly and critical parts can be obtained with some effort.

    That was kind of a good reply. Well said Bibhu.
    Happy & Safe Riding to All

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    • #17
      The two strokes are brilliant machines..they might be inferior on fuel efficiency but a two stroke enthusiast will turn a blind eye to it..the Rx and the shogun or any other two stroke are still used by people..Duke is a decent machine i appreciate that but for the price u have to pay for it m sure Indian bikers especially two stroke lovers would prefer riding a two stroke Rx or shogun..These bikes have stayed on the roads from long..that is enough to say the rest..Two strokes have not died and will never die..!

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      • #18
        Go for RX because they have easy access of spares when compared to Shogun's ....
        Practically RX is the best option..
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        Yamaha RX135 (2000)
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        • #19
          It's difficult to get a Yammie for 20K!
          I've been in the hunt for a Z(RX-Z)/Roadking for over a year now and the in the current situation,the pre 87 100's with a good heart costs more than 30K and the 5 speed 135's costs around 50K and the 5 speed Z costs around 75K and even 80K(for the black)!
          For 20K the options are the Suzuki Samurai/Max 100 and if you have good contacts then maybe a 90's 100 OR get a modded 100/135 from one of em' police auctions(You'll get it for 5-10K) with expired insurance.......get third party insurance, dump the chambers(if any) and add the cat con.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by somen1984 View Post
            Don't know why you being into bikes, suggesting 2 stroke bike for your friend. Parts were an issue for these legend bikes long time back! more than 5 yrs ago.

            1-2 months back i had spoken to Yamaha SVC they said if order they will bring RX100 parts. But it will take time more than 15 days-1 month.

            Ask your friend to save money instead of wasting the money on any 2 stroke and repairing it addtionally very low kmpl. And buy a Duke after few months, which will do the same thing of 2 stroker but in better way.
            2 stroke days are nil now. You have better options now.
            Look at it this way. Sexy women are costly to maintain. It will be hard to source the hair spray she uses. Not everyone can afford the indulgence it needs. Patience, labour, care, it all counts.

            Now whether it is a waste of money I do not know. Depends on the individual. But every male definitely desires one. Secretly or publicly.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
              @Bibhu, welcome back.
              Wonderful explanation and in detail. You are a true 2t lover.
              Originally posted by Dinesh.P View Post
              In the first line you mentioned they are Legend bikes.... Can KTM Duke 200 become a legend ??
              2 Strokers don't bother spending life in garage and low kmpl...
              2 stroke days are nil now - Are you sure ...
              wasting the money on any 2 stroke ..... Ahhhhhhhh
              Originally posted by swingarm View Post
              Look at it this way. Sexy women are costly to maintain. It will be hard to source the hair spray she uses. Not everyone can afford the indulgence it needs. Patience, labour, care, it all counts.

              Now whether it is a waste of money I do not know. Depends on the individual. But every male definitely desires one. Secretly or publicly.

              Actually speaking I would like to post a few points which are solely my opinions.

              I have known many guys who still own a HH Cd 100 (which was a 4 stroke), as their part of life. They love it dearly.

              Ask any Royal Enfield owner (again a 4 stroke as we all know) and he will show you the love and care what has gone in to maintain the bikes.

              Same goes with the Rx100, Rd's Shoguns or any / all 2 stroke bike owners.

              But I have also known people for whom the vehicle is just for commuting purpose. May it be the Chetak or Rx100 or HH Splendor. Half of them don't even know that their Chetak - Rx - Samurai - Vespa - that they own is a 2 stroke.

              The point of difference comes actually, when weather he or she "Owns" the bike or "Possesses" the vehicle.

              A practical person would own a vehicle for a purpose. A passionate lover would have only one purpose, the love for the vehicle.

              Hence there is a market for both the technologies. Afterall everyone is different.
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              • #22
                The Great explained in Great manner, well said.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by The Great View Post
                  Actually speaking I would like to post a few points which are solely my opinions.

                  I have known many guys who still own a HH Cd 100 (which was a 4 stroke), as their part of life. They love it dearly.

                  Ask any Royal Enfield owner (again a 4 stroke as we all know) and he will show you the love and care what has gone in to maintain the bikes.

                  Same goes with the Rx100, Rd's Shoguns or any / all 2 stroke bike owners.

                  But I have also known people for whom the vehicle is just for commuting purpose. May it be the Chetak or Rx100 or HH Splendor. Half of them don't even know that their Chetak - Rx - Samurai - Vespa - that they own is a 2 stroke.

                  The point of difference comes actually, when weather he or she "Owns" the bike or "Possesses" the vehicle.

                  A practical person would own a vehicle for a purpose. A passionate lover would have only one purpose, the love for the vehicle.

                  Hence there is a market for both the technologies. Afterall everyone is different.
                  I understand and completely agree with your point.

                  However this discussion began as a comparison was made between The duke and older two strokes. Thus it should not be seen from the prospective of a clueless commuter.
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