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**!_Devil_Jin_!** · 02-09-2010, 10:49 AM

seems you had an amazing trip..waiting for the remaining log.

**SARAB_FI** · 02-22-2010, 08:17 PM

**blisteringintelligence** · 02-22-2010, 10:02 PM

WoW... Amazing stuff Sarab. The Narration and Photographs are scintillating. Its awesome to see the Odo details of your bike man,, thats some touring... Really loved the write up ...
Hope to catch up soon bro...

**Aryan** · 02-22-2010, 10:49 PM

When are we goiing to see some touring from you B.I?

@Sarab: Wonderfully detailed write-up, this. Thanks for sharing it all.

**kurtrules** · 02-23-2010, 02:19 PM

Practically there is no precise way of riding on black ice. You just have to be real slow and use your feet for balancing, at times. Rightly pointed out by the bus driver, engine braking is a better form off braking under such conditions. But you have to be extra cautious while downshifting as well, lest you end up locking your rear wheel and kiss mother earth

Also, riding with a pillion is more advantageous in such conditions as you tend to put up more weight at the rear and hence more stability.

Nice Pics BTW, waiting for more.

**rachitkohli** · 02-23-2010, 02:30 PM

woahh..!! superb guyz... black ice must have been a thrilling experience..
good to know, nothing serious happened to you or the bike man..
looking at surface, am slipping here in my office

**Shivanshu** · 02-23-2010, 02:49 PM

Wow beautiful narration brother.... riding on ice and facing the consequences would be one lifetime experience man....thank God you both and your bike was all fine

bring on the next log brother

**SARAB_FI** · 02-23-2010, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by blisteringintelligence View Post

WoW... Amazing stuff Sarab. The Narration and Photographs are scintillating. Its awesome to see the Odo details of your bike man,, thats some touring... Really loved the write up ...
Hope to catch up soon bro...

Originally posted by Shivanshu View Post

Wow beautiful narration brother.... riding on ice and facing the consequences would be one lifetime experience man....thank God you both and your bike was all fine

bring on the next log brother

Originally posted by Aryan View Post

When are we goiing to see some touring from you B.I?

@Sarab: Wonderfully detailed write-up, this. Thanks for sharing it all.

thanks alot for the appreciation mates.

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

Practically there is no precise way of riding on black ice. You just have to be real slow and use your feet for balancing, at times. Rightly pointed out by the bus driver, engine braking is a better form off braking under such conditions. But you have to be extra cautious while downshifting as well, lest you end up locking your rear wheel and kiss mother earth

Also, riding with a pillion is more advantageous in such conditions as you tend to put up more weight at the rear and hence more stability.

Nice Pics BTW, waiting for more.

but in my case pillion was not at all an advantage for me

, as he kept moving his bum here and there

and most imp. whenever a slight slip of rear tyre persist he used to get panic and get ready to jump off the bike

Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post

woahh..!! superb guyz... black ice must have been a thrilling experience..
good to know, nothing serious happened to you or the bike man..
looking at surface, am slipping here in my office

i guess u must had encountered some patches of hard ice too when u were on ur leh trip??

**rachitkohli** · 02-23-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by SARAB_FI View Post

i guess u must had encountered some patches of hard ice too when u were on ur leh trip??

yes, somewhat.. not much though. It really gets slippery man.! snow is no problem, but black ice.. NO.!!

**dcs** · 02-23-2010, 03:41 PM

That's the good and the bad to riding in Winters/ in snow. Along with the sheets of white, you get some Black glass and at times a blue Eye. I remember last Year, when I went to Hatu Peak, I had a tough time in standing, or walking on the black Ice.

Ok, as rightly said by Kurt, there is no such way as Right way to ride on Black ice. Lets understand that Black ice is practically a Zero Friction surface in comparison to tarmac or any other surface. So one has to save and use any traction that is available any which ways. Reducing the tyre air pressure is a decently good move, though am against deflating too much, which would in turn make the wheel wobble too much. Further, braking and acceleration has to be used with utmost care and caution, a little too much can get us the undesired results.

Acceleration should be kept to the bare minimum, while using both of the legs as support pillars. Also, while moving from dead halt, try to move ahead in 2nd gear rather than 1st gear, for the fact that 1st gear might give undesired wheel spin, if we are not cautious enough. Too much of torque delivered to the rear wheel will just ensure a wheel spin, which no sane person would welcome anytime on Black Ice.

Braking again is as vital as accelerating. Harsh brake is simply no-no. Wheel locking by any means should be avoided. Over- deceleration is as harmful as over-acceleration in respect to Black Ice. So, abrupt shift of gears should be avoided. Also, over deceleration by any means would ensure that we loose out on whatever traction we are left with, and landing us to in one of the most disgusting situation. Avoid wheel locks at any cost.

But the crux of the matter is, just be extra-extra cautious, for, Black Ice is just another way to Go!!!

All Cheers

dcs

P.S: Has any body wondered, that one still gets scratches on the bike after a fall, no matter how much hue and cry we raise about TOO LESS FRICTION/ TRACTION on Black Ice.

**ankitmohan** · 02-23-2010, 07:14 PM

nice pics mate, its been snowing out here again today..

**blisteringintelligence** · 02-23-2010, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Aryan View Post

When are we goiing to see some touring from you B.I?

@Sarab: Wonderfully detailed write-up, this. Thanks for sharing it all.

Very soon. I have my plans in place dada, and right now as you know i am in the last phase of my study life, so once i get over with it the updates would start coming

... And it would be on the Rx itself

Congratultions on the amazing ride again Sarab...

**Aryan** · 02-23-2010, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by blisteringintelligence View Post

Very soon. I have my plans in place dada, and right now as you know i am in the last phase of my study life, so once i get over with it the updates would start coming

... And it would be on the Rx itself

Superb! Would be looking out for a wonderful travel experience from you, on the RX no less!

**blisteringintelligence** · 02-24-2010, 12:37 AM

Sure da...
BTw when are you gonna start your 2 wheeled tours again??? Its been long since you last toured on two wheels... and when is the fastest coming???

**Aryan** · 02-24-2010, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by blisteringintelligence View Post

Sure da...
BTw when are you gonna start your 2 wheeled tours again??? Its been long since you last toured on two wheels... and when is the fastest coming???

Touring on two wheels would be coming soon. As for the 'fastest', it might be just something else. Who knows what, though!

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