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**AK3D** · 09-28-2013, 03:53 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

There are many among my friends who are using Sirac Street, including ZMA, ZMR, and RTR. Those who are using on ZMA and RTR never complained about skidding. Only few ZMR owners complained about skidding on wet surface (only wet surface, dry is very much fine). Some ZMR owners have been very happy with the performance of them. What I observed with the ZMR owners who complained about skidding, they have changed only the rear tire, keeping the front tire stock. It might be possible that the Zapper FS and the Sirac Street not good as a combination. Also, the ZMR has rear disc and its bite is relatively sharper and it might lock the rear tire if applied like a regular drum brakes. The ZMR owners who has Sirac street at both front and rear haven't complained about skidding. And remember, any tire would skid if sharp braking is used in wet conditions. These are just my thoughts.

Ravi, I appreciate your input

. I took many reviews across the net before making a choice not to use the Sirac Street. I even posted about it in the ZMA thread. At that time there weren't a lot of replies.
I had almost decided to get the Sirac Streets, but after reading for a while about them, and understanding that they were manufactured by TVS, I decided to skip them.
I am facing problems even at slow speeds with the stock Zappers in the wet (and even the dry feels 'unbalanced'). I agree that any tyre would skid in wet conditions, but being a very hard compound (with a 5 year warranty to boot), I don't think it's a wise decision to go with the Sirac Street (at least, for me).
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post975426 - found the earlier post.

**Akki4134** · 09-28-2013, 05:27 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Mandar64 View Post

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done 60kms on this pirelli tyre 120/70(actual front tyre but used as rear in my bike).the grip is awesome both on wet and dry roads must say Pirelli Sports Demon is the BEST, due to its little bit lesser size increase in average is 38- 40 kms in traffic in 1 litre(mumbai traffic)(petrol is power petrol 91rs/perlitre),earlier average was 37kms in 1 litre max.Just problem is that in big pothholes of Roads,the bike voumbles bit not That dangerous it must be due to its lesser size,earlier my bike doesnt use to voumble due to mrf zapper 120/80(stock tyres by bajaj).Can anyone tel me what is 120/90 90 i mean what does 120 stands for and 80 stands for means length,width?Didnt tried it at high speed due to my new clutch plate wil try after 100-200kms max speed was 74kms/hr!!!!!
Cheers!!!!!!

120 is the width of the tyre, 80 is the height of the tyre and 17 is the rim size. What you have done is not advisable, google around for ropics regarding replacing the rear tyre with front. They both have different groves and different grips, I dont know the exact word that is used for the line which is present in the middle of the tyre. Basically the front tyre is meant to take more pressure and is groved as per that, replacing it with your rear tyre would cause lesser braking power and ur bike might skid on harsh braking or while leaning.

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**Aniket6626** · 09-28-2013, 07:02 PM

Re: Tyres

Hey guys
I have a bajaj pulsar 200ns and I'm thinking of a replacement for my rear tyre which is 130/70 - R17
Which one of these would offer me better cornering and wet grip - ceat vertigo or mrf revz???

**B7ACKTHORN** · 09-29-2013, 02:40 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by praveen jones View Post

Guys
Im using mrf zapper for my cbr150r.
It has worn out at 16k kms, feeling slippery, developed minor cracks.
Need to replce a new one
Which should i choose
Michellin
Ceat
Vertigo
Scorpion
Zapper
Contigo
Suggest me a best option
Dunlop not in stock at chennai* pirelli exprnsive*

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Pirelli is expensive, but if you're considering the premium for a excelellent grip in dry and good grip in wet, you can consider the Pirelli or you can consider the Michelin Pilot Sporty and the Sirac Street combo though the imported ones were good, but now they are a harder to med compounds. In short softer tires, wear fast good grip, decent gravel grip, wear fast. Hard compound, last to armageddon, bloody pathetic grip even if the thread is full on, and with worn out threads it's Hail Mary!

Originally posted by Aniket6626 View Post

Hey guys
I have a bajaj pulsar 200ns and I'm thinking of a replacement for my rear tyre which is 130/70 - R17
Which one of these would offer me better cornering and wet grip - ceat vertigo or mrf revz???

Revz is good for cornering but notoriously prone to punctures, Ceat Vertigo Rage or the Sport both are decent tires to part with. But you can consider PSD 140s for your rear tire, bloody good but wears out fast and a trifle expensive.

Or you can try Michelin Pilot Sporty or the Zapper C.

Cheers!
VJ

**Akki4134** · 09-29-2013, 06:53 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Pirelli is expensive, but if you're considering the premium for a excelellent grip in dry and good grip in wet, you can consider the Pirelli or you can consider the Michelin Pilot Sporty and the Sirac Street combo though the imported ones were good, but now they are a harder to med compounds. In short softer tires, wear fast good grip, decent gravel grip, wear fast. Hard compound, last to armageddon, bloody pathetic grip even if the thread is full on, and with worn out threads it's Hail Mary!

Revz is good for cornering but notoriously prone to punctures, Ceat Vertigo Rage or the Sport both are decent tires to part with. But you can consider PSD 140s for your rear tire, bloody good but wears out fast and a trifle expensive.

Or you can try Michelin Pilot Sporty or the Zapper C.

Cheers!
VJ

As far as I know the import of Pirelli's in India stopped long back, 2011 was the last lot that came and from then till now dealers and distributors have not received any lot of Pirelli's so far. 3 year old tyres are no good to use as they become hard and tend to skid very easily.
I managed to buy PSD for my rear during my trip to shimla, baught it in emergency as my IRC got screwed by some metal plate on the highway, the tyre was 2 yrs old and I could feel that the grip wasn't there, ive used PSD twice and I inow these rubbers are capable of doing wonders. So after completing my trip of 2700 kms I went back to Karol Bagh and asked my friend to change the tyre as it was skidding a lot and has some minor cracks on it, so he gave me Vee Rubber instead. 6000 kms done on Vee Rubber and I am happy with its performance.

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**Aniket6626** · 09-29-2013, 12:04 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Revz is good for cornering but notoriously prone to punctures, Ceat Vertigo Rage or the Sport both are decent tires to part with. But you can consider PSD 140s for your rear tire, bloody good but wears out fast and a trifle expensive.

Or you can try Michelin Pilot Sporty or the Zapper C.

Cheers!
VJ

Won't upsizing the tyre reduce fuel efficiency?
And do you know the exact price of all these tyres? The thing with soft compound is that, it wears off pretty quickly. So do you know any tyre which won't wear off soon and wud also give me cornering confidence?

Thank you:thumbup:

**Akki4134** · 09-29-2013, 05:01 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Aniket6626 View Post

Won't upsizing the tyre reduce fuel efficiency?
And do you know the exact price of all these tyres? The thing with soft compound is that, it wears off pretty quickly. So do you know any tyre which won't wear off soon and wud also give me cornering confidence?

Thank you:thumbup:

Try IRC if you are not willing to buy PSD, IRC are million times better than MRF or Ceat. 140 in IRC wont drop the mileage as the tyre is almost half the weight of what MRF and Ceats are, ull get better mileage instead, thats what I have experienced. IRC also wears out fast but not as fast as the PSD. Softer compound tyres tend to wear out fast but they offer very good grip on both wet and dry.

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**rohitmundra** · 09-30-2013, 03:44 PM

Re: Tyres

So it's been a long long time, I've been to Tyres forum, rather xbhp website. Good to see some healthy discussions going on among xbhpians.

For me it's been 6 long years with Pulsar 200 and I have tried different combinations of tyres for my P200 which include Stock MRF 120/80 (Zapper Y) and 90/90 (Zapper FS), then switched to Zapper Vyde 120/90 and Zapper FY 80/90 and then back to stock.

I really liked Zapper Vyde for my rear and its time to go for tyre change (both rear and front)
Now the question arises, which one?? As I said, its been a long time, I was away from discussions, so my knowledge has reduced a bit.

1) Is Zapper FY1 (90/80/17) good for Pulsar's front? Any other better options?
2) For rear, I might go with Vyde again...any better options in this league?
3) Where can I find them in Mumbai (Vyde and FY1) and are the costs same as Delhi?

People, pls through your valuable inputs.

PS: I want rubber threads which can keep me in confidence throughout my ride.

**rx100.7050** · 09-30-2013, 04:11 PM

Re: Tyres

Good to see you after a very looong time, my friend. You can try CEAT Vertigo for rear. Dual Purpose. It's quite good. I am using it.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 09-30-2013, 08:02 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Akki4134 View Post

As far as I know the import of Pirelli's in India stopped long back, 2011 was the last lot that came and from then till now dealers and distributors have not received any lot of Pirelli's so far. 3 year old tyres are no good to use as they become hard and tend to skid very easily.
I managed to buy PSD for my rear during my trip to shimla, baught it in emergency as my IRC got screwed by some metal plate on the highway, the tyre was 2 yrs old and I could feel that the grip wasn't there, ive used PSD twice and I inow these rubbers are capable of doing wonders. So after completing my trip of 2700 kms I went back to Karol Bagh and asked my friend to change the tyre as it was skidding a lot and has some minor cracks on it, so he gave me Vee Rubber instead. 6000 kms done on Vee Rubber and I am happy with its performance.

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You're absolutely right, indeed the stocks are so scarce that I've really hard a tough time finding them, plus switched to VYDE for good, as that was in my hometown for the time being. That being said I have no experience with the Vee Rubber, if you can elaborate a little bit with some photos on your bike, the sizes available etc, it'd be a real great help.

Originally posted by Aniket6626 View Post

Won't upsizing the tyre reduce fuel efficiency?
And do you know the exact price of all these tyres? The thing with soft compound is that, it wears off pretty quickly. So do you know any tyre which won't wear off soon and wud also give me cornering confidence?

Thank you:thumbup:

No it won't reduce fuel efficiency as such, unless the tires are way heavy, which puts undue stress of the engine to pull more. But that's one, VYDE is the good choice it being a medium medium compound, neither hard nor soft it does the job real good.

Originally posted by rohitmundra View Post

So it's been a long long time, I've been to Tyres forum, rather xbhp website. Good to see some healthy discussions going on among xbhpians.

For me it's been 6 long years with Pulsar 200 and I have tried different combinations of tyres for my P200 which include Stock MRF 120/80 (Zapper Y) and 90/90 (Zapper FS), then switched to Zapper Vyde 120/90 and Zapper FY 80/90 and then back to stock.

I really liked Zapper Vyde for my rear and its time to go for tyre change (both rear and front)
Now the question arises, which one?? As I said, its been a long time, I was away from discussions, so my knowledge has reduced a bit.

1) Is Zapper FY1 (90/80/17) good for Pulsar's front? Any other better options?
2) For rear, I might go with Vyde again...any better options in this league?
3) Where can I find them in Mumbai (Vyde and FY1) and are the costs same as Delhi?

People, pls through your valuable inputs.

PS: I want rubber threads which can keep me in confidence throughout my ride.

The FY1 is an excellent tire it being the R15 tire, but what else do you have Michelin Pilot Sporty or the PSD if avlbl or the Michelin Sirac Street, though the latter isn't *so* good, it does the job okay.

For rear, why not try the Vee Rubber, posted by the above member. I've never tried the Vee Rubber, but I'd suggest if you don't find a choice, the VYDE will fit the bill.

Cheers!
VJ

**rajeshbhuin** · 10-02-2013, 06:26 PM

Re: Tyres

I want to change Rear tyre of my CB Twister. Size Rear : 80/100-17M/C 53P, Type : bias-ply, tubeless.

please suggest tyre for this. I live in a village where less concreet road or high way (PAKKA SARAK) more muddy road( KACCHI SARAK). And after some rain the road become very slippery. so pls suggest a tyre with more grip with long life.

**Aniket6626** · 10-02-2013, 11:11 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by rajeshbhuin View Post

I want to change Rear tyre of my CB Twister. Size Rear : 80/100-17M/C 53P, Type : bias-ply, tubeless.

please suggest tyre for this. I live in a village where less concreet road or high way (PAKKA SARAK) more muddy road( KACCHI SARAK). And after some rain the road become very slippery. so pls suggest a tyre with more grip with long life.

For your choice, ceat vertigo of 100/80 or ceat gripp of 80/100 would do just fine.
Ceat is everything if you need grip off roading. It would cost you around 1400 but worth it.
A friend of mine has a twister with ceat vertigo, just excellent grip.
So I would suggest go for that.
Thank you!

Ride safe!

**rajeshbhuin** · 10-02-2013, 11:18 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Aniket6626 View Post

For your choice, ceat vertigo of 100/80 or ceat gripp of 80/100 would do just fine.
Ceat is everything if you need grip off roading. It would cost you around 1400 but worth it.
A friend of mine has a twister with ceat vertigo, just excellent grip.
So I would suggest go for that.
Thank you!

Ride safe!

is 80/100 and 100/80 same tyre??? and are they Tubeless?? pls confirm. and thanks for helping

**Aniket6626** · 10-02-2013, 11:21 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by rajeshbhuin View Post

is 80/100 and 100/80 same tyre??? and are they Tubeless?? pls confirm. and thanks for helping

They are two different tyres of different sizes.
Yes they both are tubeless.
And both fit perfectly on the rim.
Just contact a dealer and just go for it.
Thank you!

**rajeshbhuin** · 10-02-2013, 11:36 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Aniket6626 View Post

They are two different tyres of different sizes.
Yes they both are tubeless.
And both fit perfectly on the rim.
Just contact a dealer and just go for it.
Thank you!

here all dealer are just bogus.. if they have any tyre try to sell this if that fit its good luck if not fit its bad luck. so pls tell me can I use 100/80 size tyre for my 80/100 tyre?? and is it effect on my bikes performance and mileage??

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