Motorcycle Chain Wax

[aargee]

That's nice! So is the order for the chain lube, or chain wax?

Chain lube obviously!!! That sales dude says he's hearing chain wax for the first time in his life; he says there could be one, but he's not aware. Besides these jokers don't work on Saturday, otherwise, I could've visited their office tomorrow.

Edit - But Tibby from what I read on Google...
- Chain wax is hard to apply (involves some solvents mixing with wax & then spraying) + needs to be applied on warm chain + not to use the motorcycle until the solvents evaporate & the wax stays inside the chain. Again, I'm not sure then what's the purpose of wax spray; does it have the solvents mixed or should we mix it, not sure.
- Wax isn't as good as oil or regular chain lube
- The only advantage of wax is that it attracts less dust
- General concept prevails not to apply lube & wax together
- But a few other's say clean the chain, lube it & then wax it

So for now, I'm staying out of wax

[aargee]

Update - The guys didn't turn up y'day as promised; so I followed up with the Wurth sales agent. He mentioned that his rep couldn't locate my address & promised to get back to me once he was able to get hold of the rep.

Quite surprise that he called me back arranging a con call with the rep who'd been there last Friday (Surprise ) & he said he asked several people including a postman who told him that they didn't know my address. When I told him, we've been blessed with a postwoman for over 8 months & added why he didn't ask in the local shops, he didn't know what to say.

Bottom line - Service from Wurth is good, I assume they'd outsourced the delivery job to courier boys who're fumbling (as usual) & they promised me a delivery for today. If I get Wurth's chain lube, I'll post the pics this evening.

PS - They were unable to deliver Friday, fine, but why didn't they call me y'day? Why wait until my follow-up

PPS - Last Sunday, I witnessed one of our member's N650R's (clocked a little over 1000) chain & it was dazzling. When asked he said, he's using BAL suggested chain lube (some OKJ or something not sure). How good is that one? Any takers?

[Omega Man]

PPS - Last Sunday, I witnessed one of our member's N650R's (clocked a little over 1000) chain & it was dazzling. When asked he said, he's using BAL suggested chain lube (some OKJ or something not sure). How good is that one? Any takers?

Its OKS 451 Adhesive Chain Lubricant Spray.

BAL has a tie-up up with OKS for their Chain Sprays, which is a German collaboration in India. OKS 451 is Nuetral to O-rings, hence recommended by BAL. I bought it 3 years ago from a dealer in Thane, before BAL launched its Chain Spray in collaboration with them. Its the same as what BAL offers, its effective but very sticky and a powerful dirt magnet. Log on to http://www.oks-india.com/user/Main.a...ct.asp?Catid=5 for more info on OKS Lubricants - India.

IMO, Daimond 120 is anyday, way better than most, including Motul.

[n_aditya]

Last Sunday, I witnessed one of our member's N650R's (clocked a little over 1000) chain & it was dazzling. When asked he said, he's using BAL suggested chain lube (some OKJ or something not sure). How good is that one? Any takers?

Its OKS Chain spray. Link.

See this.

The product has a foamy appearance when sprayed on the chain and penetrates the rollers and bushes of the chain pretty well. But I personally feel Motul is far more stickier than the OKS product.

[rx100.7050]

I am also using OKS for my P220. It's quite good. The normal oil gets off easily after few kms but since OKS forms a wax kind of a protection, it lasts quite lot.

Argee: OKS & others does form a WAXy kind of a coat on the chain. May be it's this WAX they are talking about During heavy rain & water logging, even this got washed away & I realised it few weeks back only. The chain was making really weird noise & I could feel the chain's stiffness. After I applied OKS generously, the problem was gone.

[aargee]

IMO, Daimond 120 is anyday, way better than most, including Motul.

Made in

But I personally feel Motul is far more stickier than the OKS product.

But Adi, I feel Motul is just a standard product or may be I don't know about other products. HMSI used a black gooey substance & they called it as chain spray; to me, its looked like a greese & it spilled all over the number plates, alloys & swing arm!!! After that I asked them not to lube the chain even for free!!! Ever since then I started using Motul; its good, nothing to complaint, but, I need to keep lubing for over 1500+ Kms (or is it just every product withstands only this much)

I should be getting Wurth chain spray this week & not to mention, it costs a bomb (Rs 600 + tax + shipping; last time they said 750, now its 600 , probably next week it should be 500 ) & I hope it does a better job than Motul.

@rx100.7050;709689 - Ok; but chain wax is different from chain lube like I pointed out earlier.

[rx100.7050]

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But Adi, I feel Motul is just a standard product or may be I don't know about other products. HMSI used a black gooey substance & they called it as chain spray; to me, its looked like a greese & it spilled all over the number plates, alloys & swing arm!!! After that I asked them not to lube the chain even for free!!! Ever since then I started using Motul; its good, nothing to complaint, but, I need to keep lubing for over 1500+ Kms (or is it just every product withstands only this much)

I should be getting Wurth chain spray this week & not to mention, it costs a bomb (Rs 600 + tax + shipping; last time they said 750, now its 600 , probably next week it should be 500 ) & I hope it does a better job than Motul.

@rx100.7050;709689 - Ok; but chain wax is different from chain lube like I pointed out earlier.

1500 kms interval!!!!! WOW!! I am lubing at 500-600 kms interval with OKS!!! Am I doing it right or again PBK has advised wrongly??

[aargee]

1500 kms interval!!!!! WOW!! I am lubing at 500-600 kms interval with OKS!!!

Whaaat??? Are you serious? So no wonder Adi said Motul is good!!!

[rx100.7050]

Whaaat??? Are you serious? So no wonder Adi said Motul is good!!!

Yep! Motul is more sticky & at the same time great for O ring chains.

[aargee]

Yep! Motul is more sticky & at the same time great for O ring chains.

This is news to me!!! I hate that sticky thing from Motul & loved the shiny gleam from OKJ when I saw on that N650R. So you're saying that's the best one can give to their bikes?

[Praful]

The lubing interval is HIGHLY dependent on the riding conditions.

I've used OKS/Motul and found them both to have similar lubing intervals. Motul doesn't last long though and costs a little more than the others.

Anyways 3M has just launched its 4 way chain lubes, it should be stores around soon. Its pretty darn good, atleast the test versions of it were. The final product should be good too.

I've been using a chain lube called Tribocor for the last few months, find it better than OKS and Motul.

[rx100.7050]

This is news to me!!! I hate that sticky thing from Motul & loved the shiny gleam from OKJ when I saw on that N650R. So you're saying that's the best one can give to their bikes?

yep.. I have also seen SHINY chains but it means there is less of lubricant on it
Motul has a good price difference over OKS which is around 500 bucks for latge can. Motul is I guess not less than 1000

[aargee]

Motul is I guess not less than 1000

No saar, Motul, I guess I bought it for around Rs 450 or so.

[tibby]

Chain lube obviously!!! That sales dude says he's hearing chain wax for the first time in his life; he says there could be one, but he's not aware. Besides these jokers don't work on Saturday, otherwise, I could've visited their office tomorrow.

Edit - But Tibby from what I read on Google...
- Chain wax is hard to apply (involves some solvents mixing with wax & then spraying) + needs to be applied on warm chain + not to use the motorcycle until the solvents evaporate & the wax stays inside the chain. Again, I'm not sure then what's the purpose of wax spray; does it have the solvents mixed or should we mix it, not sure.
- Wax isn't as good as oil or regular chain lube
- The only advantage of wax is that it attracts less dust
- General concept prevails not to apply lube & wax together
- But a few other's say clean the chain, lube it & then wax it

So for now, I'm staying out of wax

Yes, I did read some of these points while googling around for reviews; but the number of positive reviews quite outnumbered the complaints.
Good things - stays long, doesn't attract dirt, better water/rain resistance.
But unfortunately the reviews were mostly from riders in Europe, where the weather is cold, & it is not as dusty as in India.
Performance & stickiness of the wax in warm weather (of India) is the main question bothering me. I don't wanna get the can, only to realise that I wasted one grand.
I guess I will need to stay away from the chain wax, & stick with the chain lubes available here.

Update - The guys didn't turn up y'day as promised; so I followed up with the Wurth sales agent. He mentioned that his rep couldn't locate my address & promised to get back to me once he was able to get hold of the rep.

Quite surprise that he called me back arranging a con call with the rep who'd been there last Friday (Surprise ) & he said he asked several people including a postman who told him that they didn't know my address. When I told him, we've been blessed with a postwoman for over 8 months & added why he didn't ask in the local shops, he didn't know what to say.

Bottom line - Service from Wurth is good, I assume they'd outsourced the delivery job to courier boys who're fumbling (as usual) & they promised me a delivery for today. If I get Wurth's chain lube, I'll post the pics this evening.

PS - They were unable to deliver Friday, fine, but why didn't they call me y'day? Why wait until my follow-up

PPS - Last Sunday, I witnessed one of our member's N650R's (clocked a little over 1000) chain & it was dazzling. When asked he said, he's using BAL suggested chain lube (some OKJ or something not sure). How good is that one? Any takers?

Sounds like a mix of good & bad service.
btw, the chain would also be gleaming as the bike was new. Have read good reviews about the OKS.
It is cheaper than Motul lube, & lasts equally long, if not longer.

I need to keep lubing for over 1500+ Kms (or is it just every product withstands only this much)

1500+ Kms!! Are you serious?
Motul chain-spray doesn't offer that kind of range.
The last time I stuck to such long lubing intervals, a few links of the chain got jammed, & there was uneven looseness at some parts of the chain.
Ensure the chain never looks dry.

The lubing interval is HIGHLY dependent on the riding conditions.

I've used OKS/Motul and found them both to have similar lubing intervals. Motul doesn't last long though and costs a little more than the others.

Anyways 3M has just launched its 4 way chain lubes, it should be stores around soon. Its pretty darn good, atleast the test versions of it were. The final product should be good too.

I've been using a chain lube called Tribocor for the last few months, find it better than OKS and Motul.

Yes, have read good reviews about the Tribocor too.
Any idea how much the 3M lube costs (I'm expecting it to be upwards of INR 500 for 400-500ml)?
There is also a Yamalube chain spray available at some Yamaha SVCs these days. Costed about INR 300 when I checked early this year. Had picked a can of Motul Lube a week before that, else would have picked it.

Motul has a good price difference over OKS which is around 500 bucks for latge can. Motul is I guess not less than 1000

I read on a thread here that OKS costs INR 3xx.
btw, Motul chain spray is just INR 450 or INR 480 (not sure).

[Praful]

Yes, have read good reviews about the Tribocor too.
Any idea how much the 3M lube costs (I'm expecting it to be upwards of INR 500 for 400-500ml)?
There is also a Yamalube chain spray available at some Yamaha SVCs these days. Costed about INR 300 when I checked early this year. Had picked a can of Motul Lube a week before that, else would have picked it.

Pricing I am not yet sure, their chain clean spray is for some 200 bux for a can!