2012 Bike Launch Speculation Thread

[Hackdrag]

As you know, 2011 is almost over with some Dramatic launches like R15 V2.0, CBR 250R, Mahindra Mojo etc

it's time for us to speculate about the bikes of 2012..

so here are some list to get started

Hyousang GT 250R
Mahindra Mojo(relaunch)
TVS Velocity
Honda CBR 150R
KTM 200 Duke
KTM 350 Duke
Yamaha Fazer 250
Bajaj Pulsar 250
Revamped Pulsar Range
Suzuki's 250cc bike



etc......


hope the year 2012 will gift us few quarter liter babies

Japanese 250cc??
Come on Yamaha Bring out 250cc R4

[sayank10]

bike was "launched" in Pune. r.

i have been hearing this news for sometimes now,bajaj won't do such discrimination by launching it only in pune ,they would do it pan-india style.anyone from pune,can you guys confirm it?

[Prakash_P220]

anyone getting any news about new pulsar's launch date?only concrete news please.

Jai Bajaj in Chennai who had been declining to take bookings all this while, sent an SMS last evening saying the bookings have started since the bike was "launched" in Pune. The booking amount is Rs 10,000. The bike is expected to be delivered in 10 days. Frankly, I don't believe them yet. Planning to wait a little longer.

[sayank10]

anyone getting any news about new pulsar's launch date?only concrete news please.

[J K]

Guys i heard the 200ns will hit pune showrooms one week after april 19th..is this true??

Donno correct.. Here showroom guys said all India launch on 19th April. Now yesterday I've called and that guy told only launching in Pune. Rest april last.

What we do ? ! ? !
Only wait and hear what they said..! That's all

[payeng]

(sorry can't post pics somehow.) Do try to copy the url...
How come no spy pic's of the new apache testing yet come? I hope that they do enough testing on the bike before releasing it. Got some spy pics from FB. It seems to be a naked bike.

Check this thread out for the Pics: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/206...he-rtr-23.html

[myth2104]

TVS Apache 2012

Just a cometic upgrade!!

[paradox]

Guys i heard the 200ns will hit pune showrooms one week after april 19th..is this true??

[Horror]

(sorry can't post pics somehow.) Do try to copy the url...
How come no spy pic's of the new apache testing yet come? I hope that they do enough testing on the bike before releasing it. Got some spy pics from FB. It seems to be a naked bike.

[myth2104]

TVS Apache's official fan page teased this!

Oh Ow!!! The segment's heating up!!
Bring it on!
So is this the Savior for TVS...could be..err...should be!!

[akshayhonda]

A new menace is about to hit the town!

TVS Apache's official fan page teased this!

[myth2104]

Bajaj has played a large and important role in the engineering of the KTM Duke 125 and 200. How much of this work has influenced the new NS?Two spark plugs and now three. Has the two-plug head reached the pinnacle of its development?
Bajaj has always tried to push its engineering towards producing more efficient products. The key to this is to ensure that all the energy contained in the combustion chamber is utilised. For the NS, the engine is high revving, and so a certain bore x stroke ratio was to be maintained. A pent roof combustion chamber design was decided upon, and we had to make sure that all the fuel contained within the designed combustion chamber was burnt efficiently.
After our R&D, we realised that the triple-spark plug technology causes 27 per cent faster burning than the twin-spark plug setup. Compared to the single spark plug technology, triple spark plugs cause 50 per cent faster burning. Thus with this technology, fuel is burnt faster and this reduces the resultant energy from getting lost through the cylinder walls as heat. This improves efficiency and performance.
The twin-spark plug setup was good for a two-valve head. The triple-spark plug was brought about for maximising efficiency in a four-valve head, with a pent roof combustion chamber contained within. With this technology, even when the incoming air/fuel mixture is lean, like say during a partial throttle opening, the burn rate is still quick enough to produce good power at an efficient rate.

Why does the new NS sport a SOHC setup and not a DOHC setup, apart from the difficulty (as we see it) that this would pose to the placement of the three spark plugs?
Actually, SOHC was implemented simply from a cost standpoint. KTM can afford DOHC for its Duke 200 because it operates at a higher price segment in the market.
The Pulsar, however, is meant to be a cost effective yet powerful motorcycle that is accessible by a larger market.

What particular difficulties did you face when designing Bajaj's first move from a twin-spar cradle, twin shock frame to the perimeter frame with a monoshock?
None, really. Sound engineering with a solid foundation has been a Bajaj forte. The only thing that held us back from introducing technology like this before was the cost and whether the market was ready for this next step. Bajaj has the entire expertise to design, test and validate a product through every step. Our R&D facilities are truly world class.


I would like to avoid answering this question for now, since it is a sensitive one.

Do you think this three-spark plug technology seem viable for large displacement engines?The DTS-i head
This was a two-valve head with a twin-spark plug design. The Pulsar 180 DTS-i saw an increase in power of 1.04 bhp over the standard Pulsar 180, and torque went up by .15 kgm. This new head design allowed for a cleaner and more complete combustion. It allowed the engine to make more power and lower emissions too.

Tri-spark head
The head went from being a twin-spark plus twin-valve head to a four-valve, triple-spark head. The combustion chamber is now what is called a pent roof combustion chamber. Despite having less cubic capacity than the Pulsar 220, the new Pulsar 200NS still makes more power and torque, thanks to the new head, among other things. The 220 DTS-i made 21.04 bhp, while the 200NS makes 23.52 bhp. The fuel burning rate has been improved by 50 per cent over when only one spark-plug was firing, and 27 per cent over when two spark plugs were firing. It's available only on the 200cc engine, but we could expect to see this technology being used in higher displacement engines as well.

Perimeter frame
This frame is revolutionary in design and a first for Bajaj. It is much stiffer than the previous one and gives much more handling prowess to the motorcycle; together with the new Nitrox monoshock at the rear and front suspension, this bike handles like no other Pulsar before it. Thanks to the suspension, the wheels track the road more accurately, and shock transmission to the rider has been minimized. It has been designed to take engines of higher capacity as well, with minor modifications. We should expect to see this frame service in a string of new Pulsars.

Source: BS Motoring. Link :BSM talks to Joseph Abraham about the Pulsar design philosophy

[J K]

Guys, i called up Bajaj Customer care once again yesterday late evening, and the guy said that the ONLY CONFIRMED news that they have is that the bike will be in the Market by April, but they dont know which date...(can be tomorrow, or can be on end of the month)
I futher asked that what he means by "available in the Market"-- [whether the booking will start from that day or wil the bike be available for sale].
He could'nt answer it properly, and said that the availability will depend on the demand for the bike.
He also told that its CONFIRMED that ex-showroom will be less than 1 lakh!!

Oh.. that is good..! Will call today again... to confirm as they said "19th april launch date".

That's one of a test bike given to few of our fellow xBhp riders as test-riders here in Pune. There are a few more of these running as Test bikes around.

cheerz...
ride safe and wear helmets ...

XBHP riders ?!!!?!!?
Who are all'em?
You one of them?

[shashrash]

Yeah I've now saw it in FB... why is it there? Any Idea?

That's one of a test bike given to few of our fellow xBhp riders as test-riders here in Pune. There are a few more of these running as Test bikes around.

cheerz...
ride safe and wear helmets ...

[Shibadip]

To be owner of 200 NS

Guys, i called up Bajaj Customer care once again yesterday late evening, and the guy said that the ONLY CONFIRMED news that they have is that the bike will be in the Market by April, but they dont know which date...(can be tomorrow, or can be on end of the month)
I futher asked that what he means by "available in the Market"-- [whether the booking will start from that day or wil the bike be available for sale].
He could'nt answer it properly, and said that the availability will depend on the demand for the bike.
He also told that its CONFIRMED that ex-showroom will be less than 1 lakh!!