Engine Oils

[sandeepcf]

Here's the link for pic of that gear oil can

https://picasaweb.google.com/108670588900130124044/ChainOil?authkey=Gv1sRgCMDg6oaZ1KbA2AE

this very same product may not be available down there but I do think that similar products should be available. Just ask for "the cheapest" gear oil

Do not use 140 grade gear oil. Its very gooey, messy and catches lots of dirt and dries up(by catching lots of dirt) very quickly.
IPOL gear oil costs Rs.100 after usual discount by the shopkeeper.

[muztariq]

Do not use 140 grade gear oil. Its very gooey, messy and catches lots of dirt and dries up(by catching lots of dirt) very quickly.
IPOL gear oil costs Rs.100 after usual discount by the shopkeeper.

Its a misconception. Have you ever used a 140 gear oil? If not try it. If yes, I am also doing it from quite sometime. During operation the chain becomes very hot and EP 90 just doesnt keep sticking and flyes off. EP 140 thins to a very efficient lubricant during operation.

Yes it catches slightly more dust than a EP 90 but thats manageable on a open chain bike like FZ and Fazer. It would be a blessing on covered chains. The benefit of a EP 140 is that the ride becomes very very smooth. Try it once.

[B7ACKTHORN]

What is the price of this gear oil... I have been using HP's EP 140 in 98 Rs. If the prices are similar or even if it is not, I would suggest to go with HP's product.

Also the company who does not know how to spell "pressure" (As is in the image you attached) cant be relied on their oils.

Also one should not look for cost always.. I think something that is 98 Rs per 500 ml and will be used for atleast an year is not far behind than something that would be 60Rs - 70Rs.

Do not use 140 grade gear oil. Its very gooey, messy and catches lots of dirt and dries up(by catching lots of dirt) very quickly.
IPOL gear oil costs Rs.100 after usual discount by the shopkeeper.

Instead using 140, try using 90EP Gear Oil, the oil I've been using for a while, excellent lubrication. 140 would be good for boxed, but not open ones, same with EP, but I found the little edge in lubrication in 90EP

@Sandeep, any oil "basically oil" will attract dust and grime towards it, and coupled with open type chains it gets messy and gooey and splashes the oil all over the rear internal parts. But if it's boxed, then it is well and good.

[sandeepcf]

Its a misconception. Have you ever used a 140 gear oil? If not try it. If yes, I am also doing it from quite sometime. During operation the chain becomes very hot and EP 90 just doesnt keep sticking and flyes off. EP 140 thins to a very efficient lubricant during operation.

Yes it catches slightly more dust than a EP 90 but thats manageable on a open chain bike like FZ and Fazer. It would be a blessing on covered chains. The benefit of a EP 140 is that the ride becomes very very smooth. Try it once.

This is definitely not a misconception(I never write any probability or idea as a statement) because I had used EP-140 oil for my Unicorn. I share my experience with Grease, EP-140 & EP-90.


With Grease the chain feels super smooth and super quiet but definitely not Slick.
With EP-140 the chain feels super Silky and quieter but not Slick.
With EP-90 the chain feels smooth and quiet but definitely Slick.


EP-140 -- Attracts more dust -- lubrication interval is short with more dust continuously accumulating.
EP-90 -- Attracts less dust -- lubrication interval is long with less dust accumulation.


Touch a drop of EP-140 oil and try to wipe it off, it doesn't go off easily which is good for chain, but at the same time it feels sticky like gum which is definitely not good for the chain.


I normally clean my chain every 2000kms by disassembling (you can check my post in DIY section) and when I was using EP-140 there was a lot of dirt and it was harder to clean the chain than with EP-90.


The difference between EP-140 and EP-90 is like Motul chain spray and TVS chain spray. Motul is smooth but is sticky and attracts dust very quickly and the chain gets dirtier very fast which robs the lubrication; where as TVS spray is light and doesn't attract dust quicker.
I had tested both these chain sprays on my friend's Fazer.

@Sandeep, any oil "basically oil" will attract dust and grime towards it, and coupled with open type chains it gets messy and gooey and splashes the oil all over the rear internal parts. But if it's boxed, then it is well and good.

I am just doing a comparison. Even if it is boxed I feel EP-90 to be better.

[Honda_CBF]

I paid Rs40 (per 500ml can) for that gear oil. Using it for the only reason i.e. Its cheap. It sticks like gum, attracts lots of dust. But i mix this gear oil with used engine oil for chain which makes it something like 100-120 grade oil.. Works pretty ok. I know used engine oil, some spurious gear oil etc can make my chain life short but chain's already almost gone. So I'm saving some 'vitamin M' by all this, along with some care towards bike..Btw, EP90 is best bet for chains, IMO.

[mayank.travadi]

Hello guys

Now since the topic of gear oils and chain lubricants is going on I want to ask something

I own a p200ns
On my first service the svc guys lubed d chain with gear oil but I don't know which grade.
I always thought o-ring chains are to be lubed with spray
On insisting he used oks spray
Please guide which will ne the best grade of gear oil or which company spray to use( I just one motul oks AnD tvs)

Also I am not the diy type and want be opening up chain and cleaning it
What method do u suggest to maintain d chain

[s1d]

Am aware of that. But my query was specifically about the wurth engine oil. Anyways thanks for your "helpful" reply.

Wurth and Elf oil's seem to have flooded the market here in Hyderabad. the earlier shop sign boards of castrol are fast disappearing
I have seen the Wurth oils at 4 spare parts shops and at an 'only oil' shop as well. If you are familiar with the Yousufguda area, then head to SR Automobiles(the big spare parts shop opp the bharat petroleum bunk), but i reckon they must be available at other shops in hyd as well in other areas.

PS: I think for now i am in love with shell !

[s1d]

Hello guys

Now since the topic of gear oils and chain lubricants is going on I want to ask something

I own a p200ns
On my first service the svc guys lubed d chain with gear oil but I don't know which grade.
I always thought o-ring chains are to be lubed with spray
On insisting he used oks spray
Please guide which will ne the best grade of gear oil or which company spray to use( I just one motul oks AnD tvs)

Also I am not the diy type and want be opening up chain and cleaning it
What method do u suggest to maintain d chain

If you are sure its gear oil they used, then its probably the ep90. Gear oil is also recommended for lubing the chain and is good.
Chain sprays are also good with the advantage of easy application and cost more than gear oil. If you are cleaning and lubing the chain every 500-700km then the gear oil should do without needing to spend extra on the chain lube.

[mayank.travadi]

If you are sure its gear oil they used, then its probably the ep90. Gear oil is also recommended for lubing the chain and is good.
Chain sprays are also good with the advantage of easy application and cost more than gear oil. If you are cleaning and lubing the chain every 500-700km then the gear oil should do without needing to spend extra on the chain lube.

not sure if it was gear oil but it was a red can with a handle which had a lever to be pressed and a long pipe with an opening where oil comes out when the lever is pressed

i always thought this type of can they use has gear oil

the chain now seems very clean and looks oiled and black but it doesnt look sticky thick oil...but when touched it does leave a black greasy thing on ur finger

amnd i have no idea abt the difference between diff grades of gear oil and grease and stuff

the mechanic used the oil from the can first and then upon insistence he used the chain spray and the result seems fantastic..

dunno if it gathers dust as i havent ridden much and the bike is always under the cover

[B7ACKTHORN]

Hello guys

Now since the topic of gear oils and chain lubricants is going on I want to ask something

I own a p200ns
On my first service the svc guys lubed d chain with gear oil but I don't know which grade.
I always thought o-ring chains are to be lubed with spray
On insisting he used oks spray
Please guide which will ne the best grade of gear oil or which company spray to use( I just one motul oks AnD tvs)

Also I am not the diy type and want be opening up chain and cleaning it
What method do u suggest to maintain d chain

If you are sure its gear oil they used, then its probably the ep90. Gear oil is also recommended for lubing the chain and is good.
Chain sprays are also good with the advantage of easy application and cost more than gear oil. If you are cleaning and lubing the chain every 500-700km then the gear oil should do without needing to spend extra on the chain lube.

not sure if it was gear oil but it was a red can with a handle which had a lever to be pressed and a long pipe with an opening where oil comes out when the lever is pressed

i always thought this type of can they use has gear oil

the chain now seems very clean and looks oiled and black but it doesnt look sticky thick oil...but when touched it does leave a black greasy thing on ur finger

amnd i have no idea abt the difference between diff grades of gear oil and grease and stuff

the mechanic used the oil from the can first and then upon insistence he used the chain spray and the result seems fantastic..

dunno if it gathers dust as i havent ridden much and the bike is always under the cover

Gear oil such as 90 EP as I mentioned back and fellow member quoted here, is a really good proposition, but on an open chain, a big no no, for the same reasons I mentioned back. If you want to maintain your chain, get something called "chain lube spray" which is more or less a scientific formula in a perfume can, and it's the same as you use your perfume spray. Costs some 200 odd bucks, but your chain will thank you for that.

Don't use oil, it's gooey and messy, but other than that it's just a excellent cost effective proposition.

Cheers!
VJ

[mayank.travadi]

As i had asked before which is the best spray u suggest/ someone said motul is good but costly and too sticky and a dust magnet

tvs is better..

OKS how does it stand against others?
getting it at 165rs at bajaj ASC

what are the cost of other 2 and are there any others?

[B7ACKTHORN]

As i had asked before which is the best spray u suggest/ someone said motul is good but costly and too sticky and a dust magnet

tvs is better..

OKS how does it stand against others?
getting it at 165rs at bajaj ASC

what are the cost of other 2 and are there any others?

TVS is a tad better than OKS, but its avaialbility is where it bugs. If you can get a TVS, try sourcing it, else stick with OKS, both are good lubes.

Cheers!
VJ

[krish2778]

As far as i have heard, TVS lube is no good.

I would suggest Diamond or Rolon chain lubes, costs at Rs 120/- and Rs 140/- respectively, Rolon lube bottle is slightly bigger than diamond, both are thick sprays, stays on for longer duration than Motul in wet/muddy conditions.
But the downside is will be used up in a few sprays, might be able to lube the chain in 3-4 times with the rolon or diamond lube's.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

TVS is a tad better than OKS, but its avaialbility is where it bugs. If you can get a TVS, try sourcing it, else stick with OKS, both are good lubes.

Cheers!
VJ

[shoeb2015]

Wurth and Elf oil's seem to have flooded the market here in Hyderabad. the earlier shop sign boards of castrol are fast disappearing
I have seen the Wurth oils at 4 spare parts shops and at an 'only oil' shop as well. If you are familiar with the Yousufguda area, then head to SR Automobiles(the big spare parts shop opp the bharat petroleum bunk), but i reckon they must be available at other shops in hyd as well in other areas.

PS: I think for now i am in love with shell !

I even noticed the same thing ,according to a retailer -people now are switching to other brands because the entire market is being flooded with fake castrol.
Castrol costs ~Rs.250 per liter whereas Motul 3K 20w40 costs just Rs.200 (even less if there is a cash coupon inside).
Apart from that - Motul 3000,Bosch,TOP 1 oils are flooding the market now.

Here are some pictures of my Splendor's 8 year old engine,last oil I used was AX7.

[mayank.travadi]

TVS is a tad better than OKS, but its avaialbility is where it bugs. If you can get a TVS, try sourcing it, else stick with OKS, both are good lubes.

Cheers!
VJ

okay i'll just stick to OKS for the time being...

cant we just get TVS from its ASC?

but if its hard to source i'll save myself the head ache and get the OKS...

thanks