Engine Oils

[Saurabh213]

Re: Engine Oils : Motul 300v Factory Line in P135

This seems like the right thread so posting my experience here.

My P135 had clocked 23K when I decided that enough of the shitty AGIP (straight out of the drum) mineral oil (billed as fully synthetic by the SVC by the way). I drove to Sector 9, Noida to Swati Automobiles and asked for the Motul 7100 20W50. However, he only had the 15W50 300v which is meant for the bigger bikes. The shopkeeper was frank enough to tell that it's not generally used in the P135 as he uses the same in his Ninja.

After 15 minutes of hesitation and a smoke, I just decided to go with it. And I cannot tell you how happy I am with the bike's performance. The bike is much more calm (I do miss the grunt a bit..), visibly massive reduction in vibes, hard gearshifts and false neutrals are a thing of the past and the bike exhibits an all-round refinement that I was previously unaware of. Current reading on odometer - 25,477 as of today.

And here's the useful/enlightening/interesting bit. I got the oil changed just before service and then went to Dewan Auto (Okhla Ph-III) for service. When I told the SVC advisor to not change the engine oil, he immediately called for the SVC manager who sung praises of the AGIP oil and told me that you should get the oil changed from the SVC and not outside otherwise it is not considered as a service. I in turn refused to budge and criticized the drum oil and asked if they had Motul's fully synthetic oil. After a lot of talk, he finally agreed to service the bike under "Repair" and agreed to have the Motul 7100 10W50 poured from the next service.

Now my dilemma is that the SVC mechanic that works on my bike is fixed and does an efficient job every time so not really keen to get it serviced by someone else. However, the 300v has won me over and I am not sure if I would want to switch to 7100 10W50 as that's used in the D390, a completely different animal.


I am also aware that the recommended grade for P135 is 20W50 but I have also read a lot about the fact that it's ok as long as it is xW50. 15W50 seemed feasible, the worry is that opting for 10W50 might be a case of going over the top. Any advice?

For How Much Did You Got The 300v ?
Did He Had Other Oils Like Shell AX7 ?

[Saurabh213]

Re: Engine Oils : Motul 300v Factory Line in P135

Jaso MA Oils Dont Have Friction Reducers And Are Best To Be Used In Motorcycle With Wet Clutch..
But What About Scooters That Have Dry Clutch ?
Are We Supposed To Use JASO MB or Car Oil In Scooters ?
What JASO MB Oils Are Available In India ?
Heard About Castrol Scooter Oil
Anyother ?

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils : Motul 300v Factory Line in P135

Jaso MA Oils Dont Have Friction Reducers And Are Best To Be Used In Motorcycle With Wet Clutch..
But What About Scooters That Have Dry Clutch ?
Are We Supposed To Use JASO MB or Car Oil In Scooters ?
What JASO MB Oils Are Available In India ?
Heard About Castrol Scooter Oil
Anyother ?

JASO MA/MA2 certified oils are specifically meant for wet plate clutch and to be used in Motorcyle only. JASO MB certified oil is to be used only for Scooters.

Every OMC has oils registered under JASO MA/MA2 and JASO MB. Also, all scooter manufacturing companies have their own oil that they use it as factory fill and service fill.

Cheerz!!

[Saurabh213]

Re: Engine Oils : Motul 300v Factory Line in P135

JASO MA/MA2 certified oils are specifically meant for wet plate clutch and to be used in Motorcyle only. JASO MB certified oil is to be used only for Scooters.

Every OMC has oils registered under JASO MA/MA2 and JASO MB. Also, all scooter manufacturing companies have their own oil that they use it as factory fill and service fill.

Cheerz!!

Okay,So I've Been Servicing My Scoot For The Last Five Years But No Service Center Or Mechanic Told Me About This They Just Poured The Regular Bike Oil..

[Abhinav Nayyar]

Re: Engine Oils : Motul 300v Factory Line in P135

For How Much Did You Got The 300v ?
Did He Had Other Oils Like Shell AX7 ?

At the time, it was 940/- for the oil and 35 bucks for the oil filter. I did not check for Shell engine oils to be honest.

However, I had to switch to Motul 7100 20W50 from the SVC as 300v wasn't available at the time. Not as good as the 300v in my opinion, but a consistent synthetic oil which will last 3000-3500 kms. If you are really keen on Shell oils, there's this other service center at the end of the lane on the right. Very easy to miss (and I don't remember the name). The owner is bespectacled and had a range of motorcycle oils the last time I checked.

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils : Motul 300v Factory Line in P135

Okay,So I've Been Servicing My Scoot For The Last Five Years But No Service Center Or Mechanic Told Me About This They Just Poured The Regular Bike Oil..

Maybe you can use the recommended oil from no on.

Cheerz!!

[Pinaki]

Re: Engine Oils : Motul 300v Factory Line in P135

Are We Supposed To Use JASO MB or Car Oil In Scooters ? What JASO MB Oils Are Available In India ? Heard About Castrol Scooter Oil Anyother ?

You can use car oils too , or scooter specific JASO MB oil or bike specific JASO MA too . Your choice is wide .

[ankur2smart]

Re: Engine Oils

Engine oil should be changed on basis of no. kms used or duration or both?

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[nadz11.ns]

Re: Engine Oils

Engine oil should be changed on basis of no. kms used or duration or both.

Whichever comes first.

[Traveller01]

Re: Engine Oils

Engine oil should be changed on basis of no. kms used or duration or both?Sent from my Nexus 4 using xBhp Connect mobile app

I follow 2000-3000km or 4-5 month which ever comes first. This is for semi synthetic oils.

[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

Engine oil should be changed on basis of no. kms used or duration or both?

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Both, whichever comes earlier.

Cheerz!!

[ankur2smart]

Re: Engine Oils

Whichever comes first.

I follow 2000-3000km or 4-5 month which ever comes first. This is for semi synthetic oils.

Both, whichever comes earlier.

Cheerz!!

Last oil change was done at 20-04-2014 with ODO being 14,040 kms. Current ODO is close to 17k. The oil is Motul 7100 FS
In all of my past services, I have been following method of changing oil in 8 months(2 services) as I had never exceeded the limit in terms of distance.
Is this a good practice?

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[devils_friend]

Re: Engine Oils

Last oil change was done at 20-04-2014 with ODO being 14,040 kms. Current ODO is close to 17k. The oil is Motul 7100 FS
In all of my past services, I have been following method of changing oil in 8 months(2 services) as I had never exceeded the limit in terms of distance.
Is this a good practice?

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Changing oil at intervals of 8 months is too long, change it at 90-100 days interval.

Cheerz!!

[Divyanshp150]

Re: Engine Oils

Last oil change was done at 20-04-2014 with ODO being 14,040 kms. Current ODO is close to 17k. The oil is Motul 7100 FS
In all of my past services, I have been following method of changing oil in 8 months(2 services) as I had never exceeded the limit in terms of distance.
Is this a good practice?

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Keep a limit of 6 months or 3000kms which ever is earlier...with motul 7100fs. I see your running is quite low hence its better... not letting oil sit too long in an engine and not running too much on the same oil....

Divyansh....

[jeevan93]

Re: Engine Oils

Hi guys

I have Suzuki slingshot 125 and ride around 2.5 k KM a month so. .


The query is :
Is mineral oil is enough with regular change or should I change to a semi synthetic/full synthetic oil. .

If so which. .

my manual says 20w40. .


One of mY friend told. .as I ride too much need to have a better oil. .as in mineral I need to change every month. .