Engine Oils

[JASMINE RIDER]

15w50 is for colder climates and 20w50 for relatively warmer. but it does'nt makes difference in most of the parts of India where winter are not usually that chiller. Like here in my area Winters are usually 15-20 degrees in morning and that too lasts for early morning hours.

that means its well suitable for this season?..
one more thing..any difference in motul which is specially making for enfield?..also about the price, its 280 rupees..

[meghnad]

tried elf fully synthetic this time....750Rs 1 Lit bottle. . Results are extreamly satisfying. next time will try Motul.

[Pinaki]

thank you pinaki sir..
today filled that 300020w40 in my fathers 4s champion..but not much difference in anything.earlier was using mobil1 .whether motul not suitable for 100 c.c bikes like this?which one is better for 4 s champion?he really like it very much,thats why ridden it for above 15 years..and continuing..

now another confusion..
here in my city motul 7100 20w50 and 300 v are only available in 20w50 grade.
atlast a lot of search, found motul 3000 15w50 in enfield show room, which will cost 280 per litre.one more thing is its coming in a big motul can realy like a tar can. they told me that its coming directly from enfield company.also happened to know that they are using only mineral oil for enfield..
my doubt is whats the differance between 300020w50 and 15w50?? can i exept performance from 300015w50 similar to 5100 ss oil ?
its worth it for this 280rupees?..?
this one is for my pulsar 180 ug4 not for 4s champion.

Which grade of mobil1 ? As far as I can recall , Mobil1 is a car oil , not to be used in a motorcycle engine ever ( clutch damage will occur ) . Stick to the motul 3000 20w40 for sometime , it gets better with some usage . However no oil can repair clutch which is already damaged by using wrong oil . Replace clutch parts if you have used several refills of mobil1 already . 20w40 mineral oil is perfect for 100cc bike engine in Indian plains for general year round use . No problem .
Enfield showroom is telling white lie . Motul 3000 4T plus is plain good mineral oil available in three grades now (20w40 , 10w30 and 15w50) in same bottle type , available in the same general oil shops . The 15w50 is priced similar for a liter bottle as the others , i.e around 210 Rs . It is a very good oil which you can use in your pulsar 180 , 15w50 is almost same as 20w50 for all practical purposes (just a wee bit thinner than 20w50) . Or you can try to find the Valvoline 4T Premium synthetic blend 20w50 oil , which is very good for pulsars , for around 300 Rs for a liter bottle .

[pioneeraron]

tried elf fully synthetic this time....750Rs 1 Lit bottle. . Results are extreamly satisfying. next time will try Motul.

Was it Elf Moto4 xt Tech 10w50?? It's not available here in Mumbai.Where in Pune did u find it buddy?? Can ya share the address pls??

[Honda_CBF]

Anyone using valvoline champion 4t 20w40 synthetic blend (available in blue bottle)? I'm in need of small review.
Day before yesterday i changed to it and performance is pretty much comparable to motul & gulf (done 200kms only till now)

[myg124]

Guys, i need your help here. Been a long time!


Of late, I have been running my '04 Zma with the Motul 15w50 semi synthetic oil. The good parts about the oil being the bike still delivers around 35 kmpl in the city and the usual smoothness altogether. But upon draining I found out, the oil was not even close to a liter, lost 300-400ml easily and was dark brown. And I put the same oil back again before I choose to experiment.

So, is the fully synthetic variant of this oil better or should I switch over to mineral? Or any other oil which is best for the first version of the Karizma.

Inputs will be appreciated as always!

Cheers

[Pinaki]

Firstly , that is not the correct way to measure oil level . It is prone to errors . Measure oil level with dipstick correctly as indicated in your owners manual . Check exterior of the engine case for oil leaks(dust accumulation in an area) in strong light . Check the oil drain plug too for snug fit . Replace crushable washer on it . Check spark plug for oily soot . Check inside the tail pipe end for oiliness with finger . Drain out old oil when hot .
Fill with fresh 20w40 mineral motorcycle oil(motul30004Tplus/gulfpride4T) and keep an eagle eye out on the oil levels , by the dipstick method . Hopefully you won't have any more problems .

[Honda_CBF]

Inputs will be appreciated as always!

Cheers

also make the habit of checking oil level every 500kms at least

[hunkofgals]

i reecently changed my oil from MOtul 20w40 to GUlf 20w40
and i noticed sudden change in sound during startup
mechanic checked everything
opened the engine
thinking that whether its the problem with crankshaft or rocker arms
but they were fine
n he opened the head and tried to start , to see whether the oil is circulating or not

but then the problem arised the oil isnt flowing til the end n then he revved a little and after sometime the oil came to the head part

what could be the problem ?
is the oil , the culprit ?

Pinaki sir , please help

[Honda_CBF]

i reecently changed my oil from MOtul 20w40 to GUlf 20w40
and i noticed sudden change in sound during startup
mechanic checked everything
opened the engine
thinking that whether its the problem with crankshaft or rocker arms
but they were fine
n he opened the head and tried to start , to see whether the oil is circulating or not

but then the problem arised the oil isnt flowing til the end n then he revved a little and after sometime the oil came to the head part

what could be the problem ?
is the oil , the culprit ?

Pinaki sir , please help

was the engine cold when you got it tested? Are you getting that sound all the time, even when riding? What does your mechanic say?

[Vishakh]

i reecently changed my oil from MOtul 20w40 to GUlf 20w40
and i noticed sudden change in sound during startup
mechanic checked everything
opened the engine
thinking that whether its the problem with crankshaft or rocker arms
but they were fine
n he opened the head and tried to start , to see whether the oil is circulating or not

but then the problem arised the oil isnt flowing til the end n then he revved a little and after sometime the oil came to the head part

what could be the problem ?
is the oil , the culprit ?

Pinaki sir , please help

First of all which bike?
And partial solution is that if your bike has kicker then kick the bike 2- 3 times with ignition off before starting noise won't be there( or minimised). And what is the temp of the area where you live? If its too cold then shift to thinner oil like 10w 30( if you cover shorter kms in daily commute)

And idle the bike for atleast 3 min before riding if bike not used for 4 hours or more.

Try other brand 20w 40 and check wether noise is there. Or pour in thinner oil.

[MSN1]

i reecently changed my oil from MOtul 20w40 to GUlf 20w40
and i noticed sudden change in sound during startup
mechanic checked everything
opened the engine
thinking that whether its the problem with crankshaft or rocker arms
but they were fine
n he opened the head and tried to start , to see whether the oil is circulating or not

but then the problem arised the oil isnt flowing til the end n then he revved a little and after sometime the oil came to the head part

what could be the problem ?
is the oil , the culprit ?
Pinaki sir , please help

I do not think oil as the culprit here if the spec you mentioned was correct, and recommended by manufacturer

because i used both motul and Gulf 20 W - 40 back to back and havent faced this issue ?

what bike are you using ? how many kms done ?

are you sure the gulf oil you bough is genuine and not an expired old stock !

read somewhere stating the new oil on the can needs some time ( not more than 10 kms ride) to get used to the temperature and other criteria of the specific engine, but i do not think it will cause unusual noise,

but may be slight change in the engine rythem for the first few kms, till the oil cop-up with the engine as said earlier than may be the initial 10 kms ride.

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[hunkofgals]

yes the engine was cold
i meant didnt use it for 30 mins or so thats it
.
@MSN1
i didnt see whether the oil is expired or not
im using
HONDA DIO
COMPLETED 29K KMS
.
i live in oceanic climate !
.
thinner oil ? can u suggest what type to use ?
.
my mechanic opened the head
to check the rockerarms
and they were fine
and he adjusted the tensioner too
and sound reduced somewhat
,
but i still get the sound during start-up til 10 km/hr speed
im facing this from 2 months
after changing the self motor of the bike
could it be a problem ?

[Vishakh]

yes the engine was cold
i meant didnt use it for 30 mins or so thats it
.
@MSN1
i didnt see whether the oil is expired or not
im using
HONDA DIO
COMPLETED 29K KMS
.
i live in oceanic climate !
.
thinner oil ? can u suggest what type to use ?
.
my mechanic opened the head
to check the rockerarms
and they were fine
and he adjusted the tensioner too
and sound reduced somewhat
,
but i still get the sound during start-up til 10 km/hr speed
im facing this from 2 months
after changing the self motor of the bike
could it be a problem ?

Easier option is to shift to 10w 30 grade oil but oil changing period will be little more frequent.

Another option is to idle for 3-4 minutes on starting to get the oil heated. If you continue to use the same 20w 40 oil.

Since its a scooter I hope you only do short rides and you don't rip the ride too often then better shift to 10w 30 oil .