Computers And Video Games

[chicane1879]

I couldn't get the price of the P7N2.I expect it to be costlier because the P7N Diamond costs 15,000/-.So that's out of my budget.I got the price of the P45 Neo not the version2.How different is the Neo from Neo2?

MSI P45 NEO Platinum Intel P45 Chipset Motherboard Price - 10000/-

And about the GPU, the 9800 GTX seems way too costly.I do not intend to overclock the GPU as it will get overheated and that way i will be spending more on cooling it and not to mention the issues which arise thereafter .Will the prices come down below 10,000 in the near future.Also the difference in the bandwidth and the texture fill rate between the two is not much.I will stick to the 9800GT.If there is any other GPU with similar performance and price, please enlighten me.

EVGA Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+ SC 512 MB DDR3 Price - 13,900/-

I think Corsair sticks are 800Mhz,not sure about it.

and while gettin the HDD verify that ur gettin one with a 32MB cache and not a 16MB. preferrable WD or seagate.a tip to buy a quad core, go for a 1333MHz processor and not a 1066Mhz. make sure the cache is higher. and what ever the speed, dont worry it can be tuned to get a higher core clock.. my previous Q6600 was at 3.5Ghz. now i've settled for a E8400 as its a higher performer than the Q6600 and is a best VFM core. and ur forgettin about ur power supply.... dont forget it... its important u provide continious and clean power supply. make sure the head connectors are gold plated ones as they provide 0 resistance to flowing current.
and since ur settling for a 9800, the VX620W would not be necessary.. go for the corsair VX450W..

Points noted.

And about the gaming in quads.It has not picked up yet but in the near future it surely will.I think developers must be considering and found ways to utilize the extra processors.So it's safer to stick to quads.Who knows all of the developers might be developing games that support only the quads!!

[Aparajith]

Hey Swagat, why dont u give the ATi 4850 or 4870 a shot. They are much better in performance than nVidia(according to reviews online and my own personal experience) and much cheaper too. U will end up saving around 3-4K. And dude, dont even worry about quads. The Intel i7's with virtual-octa core are already here and am already saving up for the same!

P.S: I use a Palit Hd4850 and my friend uses a 9800 on identical systems. A marked difference in gaming can be seen!

[undefineme3]

I couldn't get the price of the P7N2.I got the price of the P45 Neo not the version2.How different is the Neo from Neo2?

MSI P45 NEO Platinum Intel P45 Chipset Motherboard Price - 10000/-

Will the prices come down below 10,000 in the near future.If there is any other GPU with similar performance and price, please enlighten me.

EVGA Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX+ SC 512 MB DDR3 Price - 13,900/-

I think Corsair sticks are 800Mhz,not sure about it.

And about the gaming in quads.It has not picked up yet but in the near future it surely will.I think developers must be considering and found ways to utilize the extra processors.So it's safer to stick to quads.Who knows all of the developers might be developing games that support only the quads!!

neo2 gives more room for overclocking and its got crossfire technology and a fancy northbridge heatsink neo comes with a2.0 pci 16 and neo2 with a 1.0, the only drawback of neo2
not much of a difference between them... if u intend to update ur graphics at a lower investment, maybe 2 graphics cards, then go for neo2. else there is no good board than the classic neo. the cheapest 1600FSB board in market and the best vfm. the platinum jus boasts an extra eSATA port which i rarely use. havent tried tat board yet though.

i presume that ur budget for ur graphics card in 10k, the best competetors in this range are the 9 series of nvidia(not much of a competitor other than the price tag) and the 48 series of ATi. compared to 9800GT, the HD4850 is a way better card and runs cooler and silent..
and as far as i've tested graphics cards, HD4850 is 30% more faster than the 9800GT at any given condition/time and in extreme cases can also exceed a massive 62%.
u could even check out the HD3850 which has the same performance of the 9800GT at a lower price.

and a big NO. the price of 9800GTX+ would not drop and this would be its last rate, maybe reduce a couple of hundreds as it was released at around 17k. hard to expect price drops there. or u need to wait for the dollar rupee ratio to drop in which case it would happen.

the 800Mhz corsair sticks are great, go for the XMS series if u get it.

hope so somethin good happens to the quads, atleast then we could see the actual power of these quads. also check out the review of the Q8200, new proccy and priced same as 6600, i havent tried it yet, if i do before u buy then i'll post u.

[undefineme3]

Hey Swagat, why dont u give the ATi 4850 or 4870 a shot. They are much better in performance than nVidia(according to reviews online and my own personal experience) and much cheaper too. U will end up saving around 3-4K. And dude, dont even worry about quads. The Intel i7's with virtual-octa core are already here and am already saving up for the same!

P.S: I use a Palit Hd4850 and my friend uses a 9800 on identical systems. A marked difference in gaming can be seen!

+100
accepted with respect.!!!

[Hyperion]

While I agree that most of todays games dont make full use of all the cores available, why not make your system a little more future proof. Also, more cores means better performance at CPU intensive tasks like virtualization. Also, it helps if you run stuff like torrent clients,music players, IM clients etc in the background while gaming. I know I do that.

[undefineme3]

While I agree that most of todays games dont make full use of all the cores available, why not make your system a little more future proof. Also, more cores means better performance at CPU intensive tasks like virtualization. Also, it helps if you run stuff like torrent clients,music players, IM clients etc in the background while gaming. I know I do that.

bro u surely cant make a a rig futureproof with proccy's like the Q6600... atleast a Q9550 would be required,.. and as a common indian man, we always look for the economical factor in these chips which are basically built for performance. i ask my dad, "get me a core 2 extreme" and he says, "do u want to spend a massive 30k on jus the processor and i use a computer which i got assembled for 16k"

and yes i do accept quads are built with the sole purpose of multi processing which cannot be taken to the extreme levels.

[Aparajith]

bro u surely cant make a a rig futureproof with proccy's like the Q6600... atleast a Q9550 would be required,.. and as a common indian man, we always look for the economical factor in these chips which are basically built for performance. i ask my dad, "get me a core 2 extreme" and he says, "do u want to spend a massive 30k on jus the processor and i use a computer which i got assembled for 16k"

and yes i do accept quads are built with the sole purpose of multi processing which cannot be taken to the extreme levels.

Which brings out a question that I have.... Is THIS the right time to upgrade to an Intel i7 based system? I will only need to buy the board, processor and RAM. I have a great GPU(4850), good cabinet with sufficient cooling(enough to dissipate the 4850's heat), good HDD( 240 GB SATA2), 600W CoolerMAster SMPS. Am currently using a ASUS A8N-E with AMD AthlonX2 4200+ and 2 GB RAM. Recently one memory slot got corrupt and I lost a 512 MB Stick. And I bet my syystem still gives the latest systems a good-run-for-their money. Its been 5 years and I think that this motherboard is slowly giving up part by part. Suggestions guys??

[undefineme3]

Which brings out a question that I have.... Is THIS the right time to upgrade to an Intel i7 based system? I will only need to buy the board, processor and RAM. Suggestions guys??

quite a good config for a 5yr old sys.... and kudos for the 4850.. which make is it?
and i myself want to go in for an upgrade to the i7's
it is great to go for the i7's considering the entry level which is put up for around 17k... the 920 which is the first pocessor has got amazing OC potential upto 3.8 on stock cooling and it gave mind blowing benches...!! i recently assembled a rig for one of my friends....

the ram used was 6GB corsair dominator 1800Mhz DDR3 (3x2GBsticks) @5400/stick
the motehrboard was gigabyte X58 extreme(not readily available and was ordered) @ 22750
the MSI, asus and intel boards were reported to have BIOS problems so went for gigabyte

so basically money talks... this is the basic entry level config for an i7(can reduce ram but u need the minimum of 6gigs to experience the full potential of the i7)

[pranay]

u could even check out the HD3850 which has the same performance of the 9800GT at a lower price.

no dude, it doesn't. A 3850 can be compared to a 9600GT, these cards have been tested multiple times. A 9800GT clocks faster frame rates in all games than both these two cards.

[undefineme3]

no dude, it doesn't. A 3850 can be compared to a 9600GT, these cards have been tested multiple times. A 9800GT clocks faster frame rates in all games than both these two cards.

in actual rating, the 3850 falls between the 9600 and the 9800...

and i dont accept 9600 as a card... it ahrdly performs in crysis in gamer settings
around 10-15% more than 9600 and 10-15% less than the 9800... but u get the comparison straight out of money... thus it equals to the same

[undefineme3]

600W CoolerMAster SMPS.

the CM600W, does it come under the real power or extreme power+ label..??
and is it 80plus certified..?? coz i7 requires tat for smooth performance... what is y i installed a HX620w for the i7...

[pranay]

in actual rating, the 3850 falls between the 9600 and the 9800...

and i dont accept 9600 as a card... it ahrdly performs in crysis in gamer settings
around 10-15% more than 9600 and 10-15% less than the 9800... but u get the comparison straight out of money... thus it equals to the same

crysis has been better coded for Nvidia cores. It is widely known that an Nvidia card of around same spec will perform better than an Ati Card when it comes to crysis. You might be confused with the 9500GT. 9600Gt is a decent card with performance equalling and sometimes bettering a 3870. Please refer to this site for Crysis benchmarks.

GeForce 9600 GT vs. Radeon HD 3870 - TechSpot


Also to this site for an overall comparison.

SLI performance boost! GeForce 9600GT Review - Expreview.com

All in all, 9600GT is comparable with 3870/3850. 3850 vs 9800GT doesnt even come in the picture.

[Aparajith]

quite a good config for a 5yr old sys.... and kudos for the 4850.. which make is it?
and i myself want to go in for an upgrade to the i7's
it is great to go for the i7's considering the entry level which is put up for around 17k... the 920 which is the first pocessor has got amazing OC potential upto 3.8 on stock cooling and it gave mind blowing benches...!! i recently assembled a rig for one of my friends....

the ram used was 6GB corsair dominator 1800Mhz DDR3 (3x2GBsticks) @5400/stick
the motehrboard was gigabyte X58 extreme(not readily available and was ordered) @ 22750
the MSI, asus and intel boards were reported to have BIOS problems so went for gigabyte

so basically money talks... this is the basic entry level config for an i7(can reduce ram but u need the minimum of 6gigs to experience the full potential of the i7)

Quite a costly config there!! I have a PALIT 4850. Got it from Tirupati enterprises Chennai distributor. I know the area sales manager quite well, so he agreed to get me the MSI X58 board and CORSAIR RAM as well. Where did u get the GIGABYTE from? I normally shop at DELTA and those buggers dont stock Gigabyte. And yeah, read about BIOS issues in ASUS, Intel but not on MSI, Gigabyte. 6GB of RAM. I am thinking of Crossfire setup. So will go for RAM as my wallet opens up. But 50K for RAM+Proccy+Board is . I better wait for a month or two for the market to stabilise... I know the prices will not come down for i7 to become mainstream, but atleast my wallet would have gotten fatter by then!. The CoolerMaster is Extreme Power, 80%+ certified...

[chicane1879]

@apar and undefineme3

Thanks for opening my eyes on the GPUs.

While I agree that most of todays games dont make full use of all the cores available, why not make your system a little more future proof. Also, more cores means better performance at CPU intensive tasks like virtualization. Also, it helps if you run stuff like torrent clients,music players, IM clients etc in the background while gaming. I know I do that.

That is what i meant to say.Owning a latest model won't hurt and no compatibility issues for the upcoming games/applications(at least for couple of years).

[undefineme3]

crysis has been better coded for Nvidia cores. It is widely known that an Nvidia card of around same spec will perform better than an Ati Card when it comes to crysis. You might be confused with the 9500GT. 9600Gt is a decent card with performance equalling and sometimes bettering a 3870. Please refer to this site for Crysis benchmarks.

GeForce 9600 GT vs. Radeon HD 3870 - TechSpot


Also to this site for an overall comparison.

SLI performance boost! GeForce 9600GT Review - Expreview.com

All in all, 9600GT is comparable with 3870/3850. 3850 vs 9800GT doesnt even come in the picture.

sorry my bad.... but i've tried n tested it n i found only a minimal increase on my board..