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  • A Big Dilemma!!!!!!!!!!

    Hey Guys!!!!!!!!

    I am looking for a bike within a bugdet of 80k - 100k, which should powerful and reliable. I had P220 and Fazer in my mind but got reviews form freinds as pulsar is not so reliable. The other option iI got to know off late is the HondaCBR 250. But pricing is an issue. Somewhere I read it would cost around 94k and some say it would cost around 1.5 lakh. Also I heard of the Honda 150R. Is this due to launch in India?

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    The Pulsar 220 and the Fazer are two different bikes, really. You just cannot compare the two. As for the CBR250R, it is due for launch early (1st quarter) next year (2011) and is scheduled to be priced in the range of Rs.1.5 lakhs odd. So, if you can wait till then, I would suggest you do, because the CBR250 is one HECK of a machine, I tell you!
    :)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
      Hey Guys!!!!!!!!

      I am looking for a bike within a bugdet of 80k - 100k, which should powerful and reliable. I had P220 and Fazer in my mind but got reviews form freinds as pulsar is not so reliable. The other option iI got to know off late is the HondaCBR 250. But pricing is an issue. Somewhere I read it would cost around 94k and some say it would cost around 1.5 lakh. Also I heard of the Honda 150R. Is this due to launch in India?
      First of all, congratulations on thought for buying yourself a new ride
      Please do mention what kind of use you got , I mean if you are a tourer or daily commuter or may be a track person. Also what aryan said is right, there is no comparison between P220 and Fazer. Both are good bikes in there stands. Honda will be launching (if in case) CBR250, it will be a direct competition with Ninja 250 (Rs 300000 approx ) so i'm pretty much sure that quality of the bike will not be compromised over the price, can expect it to be around Rs 2.5 lakh but not below that for sure.
      Nishant Kumar

      Ride, eat, sleep...repeat.

      TVS Apache 150 (Sold) | Bajaj Avenger 200 (Sold) | Yamaha R15 (Sold) | Duke 390 (Current)
      Point Calimere
      | ECR ride for Breakfast | The 'Rich' city of Ruins - Hampi
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      • #4
        Originally posted by thegame0012 View Post
        First of all, congratulations on thought for buying yourself a new ride
        Please do mention what kind of use you got , I mean if you are a tourer or daily commuter or may be a track person. Also what aryan said is right, there is no comparison between P220 and Fazer. Both are good bikes in there stands. Honda will be launching (if in case) CBR250, it will be a direct competition with Ninja 250 (Rs 300000 approx ) so i'm pretty much sure that quality of the bike will not be compromised over the price, can expect it to be around Rs 2.5 lakh but not below that for sure.
        Honda CBR250 won't be near to Ninja, neither in power nor in price..
        Suzuki Gixxer - Current
        Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
        Apache RTR160 - Sold
        Honda Stunner - Sold
        LML Energy - Sold

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        • #5
          @ the game0012 : Basically I like riding in the fastest way....that wud define me as a track person....but I wud use the machine for weekend touring as well....

          I like the P220 becouse of its look and the powerful engine....but then I got reviews as the performance wud drop down with time.....that was when I turned towards Fazer....

          So guys...please giv feedback about both the bikes like the maintainace, max speed, fuel average etc....that would be really helpful...

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          • #6
            As I am going through the reviews on various bikes, I am getting more confused. Here are some bikes which I alike and why?

            MY REQUIREMENTS .....
            1. Good looks
            2. Power to go over 100km/hr without any stress
            3. Stability at high speeds.
            4. Avearge around 40km/l

            BIKES I SHORTLISTED

            Fazer
            For : Looks, Stability, Reliabilty
            Against : Power

            Pulsar 220
            For : Looks, Power, Stability
            Against : Long term reliabilty

            HH Karizma
            For : Power, Reliabilty
            Against : Looks.

            Please advise which bike should I go for ? Its becoming an headache for me ....

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            • #7
              Karizma all the way...and it looks cool man... no one can say a ZMA R looks bad..
              Don't Honk Unnecessarily

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
                As I am going through the reviews on various bikes, I am getting more confused. Here are some bikes which I alike and why?

                MY REQUIREMENTS .....
                1. Good looks
                2. Power to go over 100km/hr without any stress
                3. Stability at high speeds.
                4. Avearge around 40km/l

                BIKES I SHORTLISTED

                Fazer
                For : Looks, Stability, Reliabilty
                Against : Power

                Pulsar 220
                For : Looks, Power, Stability
                Against : Long term reliabilty

                HH Karizma
                For : Power, Reliabilty
                Against : Looks.

                Please advise which bike should I go for ? Its becoming an headache for me ....
                Dont expect the fazer to cruise at 100+ comfortably. It would be screaming a lot at those speeds. Indeed no indian 150cc bikes can cruise at 100+ without any stress (R15 excluded).

                All your requirements are satisfied by the p220 & karizma. If you are ready to sacrifice a little on mileage then the karizma is the best tourer of the lot.
                NOT BEEN THERE NOT DONE THAT

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
                  @ the game0012 : I like the P220 becouse of its look and the powerful engine....but then I got reviews as the performance wud drop down with time.....that was when I turned towards Fazer....
                  Pulsar's power drop down with time? well... may be. but even a ten years old p220 will outrun a fazer anyday .

                  No offence to any fazer owner but to me its plain poser bike. I mean you spend over 80K and get a 150cc 14 bhp bike. Covered with plastics and weighting over 140kg. You mentioned you like to ride fast. well in case of fazer forget that. Fz is far better choice than this.

                  Second, Karizma is really good old steed. Its relaxed and smooth and torquey and reliable. A perfect allrounder. But go for it only if you are willing to wait weeks or may be months for spares. Also consider hero and honda are parting ways. what will happen to spare availability then?

                  I wont even recommend you 220. Although it has amazing power, good fuel efficiency, good looks (although personally i dont like the looks).
                  It takes a hit on the reliability front. Its not that all 220's are unreliable but some of them are. Its like out of 100 few apples are bad. Buying a 220 or any other pulsar is like gambling. If you get a good one cheers then. and if you get a bad one. you wont buy any bajaj again (luckily I got the good one )

                  So my recommendation is the r15. Every thing is amazing in this bike except the low rpm power, but who's riding like uncles

                  So do one thing, Extend your budget 2-3k's and get the yammie. Feel like rossi
                  Last edited by Wanted DoA; 11-03-2010, 11:23 PM.
                  Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.

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                  • #10
                    Even I like the Karizma ....but the model has become a outdated.....if there is a choice between P220 and Karizma...I would like to go for Pulsar....But I don't want to regret after spending my hard earned money... I like Pulsar220(faired version) looks....and also it boasts of 21bhp which is a lot of power....

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                    • #11
                      @Wanted DoA - +1 for that, I booked R15 for myself and its amazing machine both for touring and track.

                      Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
                      Even I like the Karizma ....but the model has become a outdated.....if there is a choice between P220 and Karizma...I would like to go for Pulsar....But I don't want to regret after spending my hard earned money... I like Pulsar220(faired version) looks....and also it boasts of 21bhp which is a lot of power....
                      Have you drove both the bikes ? I mean both ZMA and P220 ? To be frank, ride quality of karizma felt much more better to me. P220 got great pick up and top end speed but still you feel that X factor missing, other hand , ZMA got bad reputation of aftersale service and rare spare parts . Please do try r15 and I'm sure you will love it, my need was almost as yours and I loved this bike .
                      Nishant Kumar

                      Ride, eat, sleep...repeat.

                      TVS Apache 150 (Sold) | Bajaj Avenger 200 (Sold) | Yamaha R15 (Sold) | Duke 390 (Current)
                      Point Calimere
                      | ECR ride for Breakfast | The 'Rich' city of Ruins - Hampi
                      Kuttralam Ride | Jawadhu Hills

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                      • #12
                        Thats right...there is no match for the R15 but my daily commuting is around 60 kms..R15 wud make a big hole im my pocket....can anybody tell me whats the avg. fuel efficviency for R15 and does yamaha provides extended warranty. Daily travel of 60 km made me put Fazer in one of my choices....it looks good...gves 40km/ltr...is a yamaha(creator of RX100) and is 25k lass than R15.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
                          Thats right...there is no match for the R15 but my daily commuting is around 60 kms..R15 wud make a big hole im my pocket....can anybody tell me whats the avg. fuel efficviency for R15 and does yamaha provides extended warranty. Daily travel of 60 km made me put Fazer in one of my choices....it looks good...gves 40km/ltr...is a yamaha(creator of RX100) and is 25k lass than R15.

                          R15 is definately an amazing Machine and if ridden sanely will deliver 35-40 kmpl.

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                          • #14
                            if touring is your main concern then HH zma is the bst....its a proven tourer....if u wnt powr then p220...its also a gd touring machine...

                            or else u cn take apache rtr180....it gives decent mileage along with one of the bst acclrtns nd a gd top end...its a real VFM....
                            Born Racerrrr

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blumarine005 View Post
                              As I am going through the reviews on various bikes, I am getting more confused. Here are some bikes which I alike and why?

                              MY REQUIREMENTS .....
                              1. Good looks
                              2. Power to go over 100km/hr without any stress
                              3. Stability at high speeds.
                              4. Avearge around 40km/l

                              BIKES I SHORTLISTED

                              Fazer
                              For : Looks, Stability, Reliabilty
                              Against : Power

                              Pulsar 220
                              For : Looks, Power, Stability
                              Against : Long term reliabilty

                              HH Karizma
                              For : Power, Reliabilty
                              Against : Looks.

                              Please advise which bike should I go for ? Its becoming an headache for me ....
                              i think you should also take apache rtr 180 into consideration.....it returns a decent mileage, acc and top speed

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