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TD is the best way to choose a bike, but if upright position is something you are looking for, the Karimza -R or ZMR is something you should target for.
Reliability wise HH has been way ahead than Bajaj, but 220 is claimed to be a refined bike, i would still go with HH.
Headlights & expensive spares are an issue with HH, headlights can be taken care of with some after market changes ( me also trying to get that done
) and the expensive spares are still ok as they are less frequently changed as compared to other competitors (mainly P220)
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Dinesh
First Ride to Malshej Ghats.....
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i doubt whether the fairing on the pulsar220 can be removed..
it anyway is small compared to the zma-r...
i suggest you go in for the p220 as said above, its VFM and pretty reliable too..
lots of torque and power in lower, mid-range, the size would suit you as well...
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- buy P220SOriginally posted by thirdofthree View PostThanks for the tip on the better lighting on the 220-F. Any idea if the side fairing is easily removable? Is the lighting a completely different design, or simply better stock bulbs and/or reflector? I'm wondering if I'm better off getting the -F and removing the fairing, or the -S and upgrading the lighting.
- upgrade lighting
NOT vice versa.
it most certainly can.Originally posted by veyron999 View Posti doubt whether the fairing on the pulsar220 can be removed...
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Glad to hear test rides are no problem. (I've ridden a Ninja in the US and didn't care for the riding position, anyway.)Originally posted by xionite View Postyes they do. except for the Ninja 250R.
Definitely going to test ride the R and/or ZMR, along with the P220. Please forgive my ignorance: what is TD?Originally posted by dineshsamtani View PostTD is the best way to choose a bike, but if upright position is something you are looking for, the Karimza -R or ZMR is something you should target for.
I imagine all bikes have plenty of aftermarket headlight and tire options? Presumably, I'll have a range of aftermarket options from which to choose based on price, quality, value, etc., which may help negate some of the added cost related to HH. (I'm a big quality/value-for-money guy, not a highest price = best kinda guy.)Originally posted by dineshsamtani View PostHeadlights & expensive spares are an issue with HH, headlights can be taken care of with some after market changes ( me also trying to get that done
) and the expensive spares are still ok as they are less frequently changed as compared to other competitors (mainly P220)
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TD = test drive... ( thanks sheelpriye for replyingOriginally posted by thirdofthree View PostGlad to hear test rides are no problem. (I've ridden a Ninja in the US and didn't care for the riding position, anyway.)
Definitely going to test ride the R and/or ZMR, along with the P220. Please forgive my ignorance: what is TD?
I imagine all bikes have plenty of aftermarket headlight and tire options? Presumably, I'll have a range of aftermarket options from which to choose based on price, quality, value, etc., which may help negate some of the added cost related to HH. (I'm a big quality/value-for-money guy, not a highest price = best kinda guy.)
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Definitely, Highest price is not always the best (extra cost can be the marketing cost also
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Though i believe, HH gives a better over all experience as compared to P220. Personal Opinion, no offenses to anyone.
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Cheers!!!!
Dinesh
First Ride to Malshej Ghats.....
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+1.. Go for Pulsar 220F or test ride all the bikes and go for the one which you find comfortable.Originally posted by Puneet1 View PostGo for the Pulsar 220 F , 220 s has poor lighting compared to the faired version .p220 has great low end torque , the riding posture you need and will be in your budget . would have also suggested Karizma but it seems to be having lot of spares availability issues recently .
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so according to your needs these bikes scored as..Originally posted by thirdofthree View PostI'm moving to Mumbai in Jan and not particularly familiar with Indian motorbikes. Hopefully some of you can provide
some insight into options that suit my preferences. They are:
1. Budget of up to approx Rs 90k, though this is flexible. (ZMA-R/P220,also you said your budget is flexible so we can include ZMR in it as well)
2. Combination of commuting + touring, both solo and with one passenger. For reference, I'm 5'11", 200 bls (91 kg). (ZMR/ZMA-R/P220)
3. I like an upright, "standard" riding position. I dislike equally the strong forward lean of aggressively styled sportbikes and the rear lean of cruisers.(ZMR/ZMA-R)
4. Reliability is important for the first 2-3 years (ZMR/ZMA-R)
5. I have a strong preference for low-RPM torque rather than high-RPM zip...though I don't know if I'll have many options in this regard. (ZMR/ZMA-R/P220/A180)
6. Top speed is not a primary factor, but ability to accelerate my heft swiftly in traffic, when necessary, is desired (ZMR/ZMA-R/P220/A180)
7. I'm accustomed to riding 650 - 1100 CC bikes, but am looking forward to a smaller, more nimble bike for riding in Mumbai. That said, I probably want >= 200 CC (ZMR/ZMA-R/P220)
8. Front disc-brake is a must. (all bikes have this)
9. Adjustable, robust suspension. The more robust suspension the better (for my weight), though of course this can always be addressed aftermarket. (ZMR/ZMA-R)
10. Style-wise, I prefer the neat, clean lines of (nearly) naked / standard bikes and cafe racers, with minimal or no fairing. (ZMA-R/P220S)
The bikes that have caught my eye so far:
* Bajaj Pulsar 220-S. I probably like the looks of this bike the best of the ones I've found to date, and the 220 CCs is appealing, given my size.
* Hero Honda Karizma R. Don't much care for the fairing, though.
* Royal Enfield Electra Twinspark. Intriguing! Though the riding position may be too close to cruiser-style for my preferences.
Questions, thoughts, recommendations?
Thanks!
Brian
ZMA-R = 9
ZMR = 8
P220 + P220S = 5 + 1
A180 = 2Suzuki Gixxer - Current
Karizma ZMR <3 - Sold
Apache RTR160 - Sold
Honda Stunner - Sold
LML Energy - Sold
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looking at your needs - the Zma- r should be the best bet. apart from the spare part issue you would have to be worried when you go for this bike. for the first 2 years you will not have any issues.
He 220 has better low ebd torque and is faster. the Zma is more refined and comfortable.
TD the Zma- r and the 220 and then decide.
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Brian, if you are willng to stretch the budget a bit, I think Royal enfield Bullet classic both 350 n 500cc versions would be great. They meet all your criteria and are great looking.Originally posted by thirdofthree View PostBudget of up to approx Rs 90k, though this is flexible.I ride in just 2 weather conditions...
1.When it rains
2. When it doesn't
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