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    bike which is a compromise between performance and FE

    hi all xbhpians. i have been following this forum for quite some times. everything i know about bikes is from this forum. so what better place to clear the doubts im having choosing my fist geared bike.

    my problem is that of a typical college going guy who loves riding but has to do it of his fathers money. iv been riding a honda dio and now want to upgrade to a bike. following are my requirements.
    • bike should be reliable.
    • ill be riding the bike for around 15km college to home+some monthly fun riding i.e highway riding. you can consider my monthly distance as 550km. so FE is a big thing as ill be living off my father. ~45kmpl
    • im not a stunter but would appreciate a bike that would but a big grin on my face . should be a good handler and able to cruise at 80+ with ease. occasional bursts to 100+ is in the making.

    • im 5.7ft and weigh 68kg. want a bike that would suite me.

    bikes im considering are apache rtr 180, fz16, dazzler and a outside chance for stunner. does stunner have better efficiency than the other bike and does it fall behind them in terms performance big time, is apache reliable, FE of fz, riding posture of dazzler etc are some questions that are eating me .
    please help me out
    77
    apache rtr 180
    59.74%
    46
    cb unicorn dazzler
    18.18%
    14
    cbf stunner
    3.90%
    3
    fz16
    18.18%
    14
    Last edited by sunilg; 01-02-2011, 08:30 PM.
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    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
      hi all xbhpians. i have been following this forum for quite some times. everything i know about bikes is from this forum. so what better place to clear the doubts im having choosing my fist geared bike.

      my problem is that of a typical college going guy who loves riding but has to do it of his fathers money. iv been riding a honda dio and now want to upgrade to a bike. following are my requirements.
      • bike should be reliable.
      • ill be riding the bike for around 15km college to home+some monthly fun riding i.e highway riding. you can consider my monthly distance as 550km. so FE is a big thing as ill be living off my father. ~45kmpl
      • im not a stunter but would appreciate a bike that would but a big grin on my face . should be a good handler and able to cruise at 80+ with ease. occasional bursts to 100+ is in the making.

      • im 5.7ft and weigh 68kg. want a bike that would suite me.

      bikes im considering are apache rtr 180, fz16, dazzler and a outside chance for stunner. does stunner have better efficiency than the other bike and does it fall behind them in terms performance big time, is apache reliable, FE of fz, riding posture of dazzler etc are some questions that are eating me .
      please help me out
      First of all welcome to xbhp.
      From all your requirements i would suggest the rtr for u because of more performance than other mentioned bike.RTR is a good handler,have better cornering ability,better brakes(roto petal),People here are using 1st generation apache without any problem so reliability is not an issue.If u can mange with some vibes u can definitely go for apache.Delivers a mileage of 40-45 kmpl range

      On otherhand Fz-16 is a macho looking/street fighter bike,more reliable than rtr delivers the mileage of 35-40 kmpl range

      Dazzler is nothing other than that a cosmetic upgrade of unicorn
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      • #4
        First of all welcome to xbhp!

        as you stated that you need a bike which cruise at speeds of 80+ and can blast past 100kmph mark, this eliminates stunner from you list.

        Out of the other three RTR180 is the best performer. best acceleration, top speed, handling and braking among these no doubt about that. and it will be perfect for your build. Only letdown will be the vibes that I've heard are a common character of apaches.

        FZ has loads of pose with those fat tyres and awesome body curves. She's a awesome looker. Perhaps you will be spending more time looking at it than riding it . Very good build quality too. But performance and mileage are a bit of downsides for its cost.

        Dazzler is somewhat better performer than the Fz and more fuel efficient too.
        seating is more of commuterish so more comfy. Also comes with rear disk. I dont find anything special with the dazzler except the refinement. Its just decent in avery aspect.

        All of these are very reliable. You should check ownership threads for clarification. I think I have answered most of your questions so its your call now
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        • #5
          Welcome to xbhp mate..
          For your requirements suzuki gs150r will be perfect.
          Myself being a student,got gs150r few months ago and am loving my bike.
          Test drive all of them before you decide.
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          • #6
            Aarti-R ek sau assi le lo bhaiya

            Haha, I am not mentioning any description about why I suggested it to you is not because I just recommended it as its my favourite. But, its that I think the reasoning given by the two above (vishnups17 and Wanted DoA) is sufficient.

            Just adding to it, yes vibes are Apache's characteristic. But, its not that it vibrates all the time. The vibes issue is limited to the range of 4.5-6 RPM range. So, keep it in mind if you navigate away from RTR after reading more reviews because I've seen that people exaggerate this issue much more.

            Anyways, after deciding final 2-3 bikes, do take a test ride of each of them before zeroing to any bike. Its you who's gonna live with it so you should be comfortable with it.
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            • #7
              as always, +1 to garry,

              buy RTR 180, no other stands a great mix of both

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              • #8
                Yup..go for the rtr.
                Soham.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by vishnups17 View Post
                  First of all welcome to xbhp.
                  From all your requirements i would suggest the rtr for u because of more performance than other mentioned bike.RTR is a good handler,have better cornering ability,better brakes(roto petal),People here are using 1st generation apache without any problem so reliability is not an issue.If u can mange with some vibes u can definitely go for apache.Delivers a mileage of 40-45 kmpl range

                  On otherhand Fz-16 is a macho looking/street fighter bike,more reliable than rtr delivers the mileage of 35-40 kmpl range

                  Dazzler is nothing other than that a cosmetic upgrade of unicorn
                  Originally posted by Wanted DoA View Post
                  First of all welcome to xbhp!

                  as you stated that you need a bike which cruise at speeds of 80+ and can blast past 100kmph mark, this eliminates stunner from you list.

                  Out of the other three RTR180 is the best performer. best acceleration, top speed, handling and braking among these no doubt about that. and it will be perfect for your build. Only letdown will be the vibes that I've heard are a common character of apaches.

                  FZ has loads of pose with those fat tyres and awesome body curves. She's a awesome looker. Perhaps you will be spending more time looking at it than riding it . Very good build quality too. But performance and mileage are a bit of downsides for its cost.

                  Dazzler is somewhat better performer than the Fz and more fuel efficient too.
                  seating is more of commuterish so more comfy. Also comes with rear disk. I dont find anything special with the dazzler except the refinement. Its just decent in avery aspect.

                  All of these are very reliable. You should check ownership threads for clarification. I think I have answered most of your questions so its your call now
                  Originally posted by manubhat View Post
                  Welcome to xbhp mate..
                  For your requirements suzuki gs150r will be perfect.
                  Myself being a student,got gs150r few months ago and am loving my bike.
                  Test drive all of them before you decide.
                  Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post
                  Aarti-R ek sau assi le lo bhaiya

                  Haha, I am not mentioning any description about why I suggested it to you is not because I just recommended it as its my favourite. But, its that I think the reasoning given by the two above (vishnups17 and Wanted DoA) is sufficient.

                  Just adding to it, yes vibes are Apache's characteristic. But, its not that it vibrates all the time. The vibes issue is limited to the range of 4.5-6 RPM range. So, keep it in mind if you navigate away from RTR after reading more reviews because I've seen that people exaggerate this issue much more.

                  Anyways, after deciding final 2-3 bikes, do take a test ride of each of them before zeroing to any bike. Its you who's gonna live with it so you should be comfortable with it.
                  Originally posted by kanishka007 View Post
                  as always, +1 to garry,

                  buy RTR 180, no other stands a great mix of both
                  Originally posted by untill_pluto View Post
                  Yup..go for the rtr.

                  thanks guys. i got a test ride of all the bikes on the same day so that i can clear my doubts. here is what i felt...
                  fz- good acceleration till about 60kays but than i found the engine to be a little stressed. but than its neither a performer nor is it too much of an efficient machine.
                  dazzler- decent performer..err found it better than the fz(ok guys i know there are quite a few fz maniacs so please dont bash me up). dont like the design as much and also the riding stance.
                  stunner-was i even considering this???? i found some vibes in this thing.i mean vibes in a honda
                  apache rtr 180- yes guys everything you said is true. its a stonker of a performer. nuff said..

                  so for me its the 180. but tvs does not go well with my father. hes more into honda, hero honda (in a nut shell he wants me to ride a dazzler)..
                  ps- can i consider the option of a used karizma zma/r. 40 kmpl atleast. will it suite me. dont want a dazzler....

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                  • #10
                    i wonder why didn't you considered p180 awesome power looks already proven and my friend getting whooping mileage of 50km/ltr
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                    • #11
                      i wonder why didn't you considered p180 awesome power looks already proven and my friend getting whooping mileage of 50km/ltr

                      i own yamaha R15 so do consider it also its great machine power looks mileage reliability everything...
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                      • #12
                        Apache 180 will be better.......also look out for Pulsar 180 since it's better then Apache in Comfort & Refinement levels..
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
                          hi all xbhpians. i have been following this forum for quite some times. everything i know about bikes is from this forum. so what better place to clear the doubts im having choosing my fist geared bike.

                          my problem is that of a typical college going guy who loves riding but has to do it of his fathers money. iv been riding a honda dio and now want to upgrade to a bike. following are my requirements.
                          • bike should be reliable.
                          • ill be riding the bike for around 15km college to home+some monthly fun riding i.e highway riding. you can consider my monthly distance as 550km. so FE is a big thing as ill be living off my father. ~45kmpl
                          • im not a stunter but would appreciate a bike that would but a big grin on my face . should be a good handler and able to cruise at 80+ with ease. occasional bursts to 100+ is in the making.

                          • im 5.7ft and weigh 68kg. want a bike that would suite me.

                          bikes im considering are apache rtr 180, fz16, dazzler and a outside chance for stunner. does stunner have better efficiency than the other bike and does it fall behind them in terms performance big time, is apache reliable, FE of fz, riding posture of dazzler etc are some questions that are eating me .
                          please help me out
                          Dude, if you have a high budget then Yamaha YZF-R15 is a good option.

                          Cruising at 80kmph is a piece of cake for YZF-R15 even with pillion and it can easilt cross 100kmph and can even stay at 120+ kmph

                          Very light weight. 131kgs of curb weight. And its the best in cornering before RTR's i.e superb handler.

                          Retuns an average of 40kmpl if ripped and evn 50kmpl if ridden below 4k rpm.

                          Its got killer looks with full fairings. Its the best bike you or any other college going student can ride!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
                            thanks guys. i got a test ride of all the bikes on the same day so that i can clear my doubts. here is what i felt...
                            fz- good acceleration till about 60kays but than i found the engine to be a little stressed. but than its neither a performer nor is it too much of an efficient machine.
                            dazzler- decent performer..err found it better than the fz(ok guys i know there are quite a few fz maniacs so please dont bash me up). dont like the design as much and also the riding stance.
                            stunner-was i even considering this???? i found some vibes in this thing.i mean vibes in a honda
                            apache rtr 180- yes guys everything you said is true. its a stonker of a performer. nuff said..

                            so for me its the 180. but tvs does not go well with my father. hes more into honda, hero honda (in a nut shell he wants me to ride a dazzler)..
                            ps- can i consider the option of a used karizma zma/r. 40 kmpl atleast. will it suite me. dont want a dazzler....
                            hmmm was the same situation with me when I baught my P200. My father wasen't allowing to buy it. we talked about it over and over again for many times. but finally I convinced him.

                            I wont recommend you Karizma if you are cost and efficiency conscious. Karizma wont give much kilometers per liter. Four of my friends own Karizma and all of them claim mileage around 30, so not a wise choice. Also parts are too costly and hard to find. (Disk pads are over a thousand I heard my P200's cost Rs125 )

                            Again I dont consider any Honda bike more value of money than TVS or BAJAJ(Just my thoughts). So my suggestion is convice him over RTR180. Insist him to read ownership thread. If he doesn't agree try Pulsar180. Very good VFM. Not a hooligan like RTR but a better product overall.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kedar3223 View Post
                              so for me its the 180. but tvs does not go well with my father. hes more into honda, hero honda (in a nut shell he wants me to ride a dazzler)..
                              ps- can i consider the option of a used karizma zma/r. 40 kmpl atleast. will it suite me. dont want a dazzler....
                              Sad to hear that your dad doesn't like the Tvs brand. Even I was against Tvs (psst.I used to worship Shogun though). Did you try to take him along for a test ride.If he still doesn't like tvs and wants a Jap bike for you; I suggest you take a look at the forgotten legend HH CBZ-Xtreme . It does every thing good. Refined , good handling,reliability,Low-Mid torque, Hero Honda A**,& frugal too.
                              It's a no nonsense all-rounder bike actually. It may not have the latest funky gizmos, Lcd meters etc but it is a thoroughbred in its class.
                              But still that A-180 is one badA$% bike.
                              Choose wisely.
                              Cheers
                              Sam

                              PS: Sorry I didn't notice the Poll. In that case my vote goes for the Apache 180.
                              Last edited by SAMUEL-Fi; 01-03-2011, 05:47 PM. Reason: Added content
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