. I am very very eagerly waiting for your CBR explorations. I know you will extract a helluva performance from it.
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one more thread for lmao
keep going guys... soon, we will create a new segment for awards called as "the most compared bike" and the cbr will win it hands down.
no offence to joel but as far I believe, by modifying, you are simply adapting the bike for a very specific use. and that is relatively easy if you consider what the corporates have to take into consideration when they make a bike:-
emissions, noise levels, cooling, bullet proof reliability, cheap, ease of maintainance, top notch paint quality, all this while it does not require a NASA engineer to service it... and the list simply goes on.
so there is no doubt that a pimped r15 will beat a mildly tuned cbr, especially if the tuner is a person of repute as joel. but the topic is completely pointless.
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and that's the bottom line because joel said so..Originally posted by Joel View PostJust saw this thread now.
Its a pointless topic, unless its proven. Both the machines belong to different classes and you cant deny a few advantages that a bigger motor has. The CBR250 has a really wonderful engine and I'm waiting to get my hands on one. The R15 is the best-in-class engine in its segment and unmatched and in a modified trim, can match and beat higher class machines. Its indeed a lot of value for money and a lot of fun too when souped up.
Now here is what I'd say. If you have that extra bucks to spare - go for the CBR250 (Its an amazing machine)
If you are a person who wants a wolf-in-sheep's clothing package - then go for the R15 and soup it up. Its more fun.
Very soon, I will start pimping a CBR250 and then it will be an interesting comparo.
As of now, yes a modified R15 WILL beat a stock CBR250 quite badly.
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Am really sorry that i have the money to buy a CBR 250 R and the heart to appreciate a modded R15. In a single, though a huge, body.
Also, quite a few people here seem to know my low IQ level or my love for flame wars without having met me or known me. Thank you for holding me in such high esteem.
Having said that, let me tell you i have already booked a CBR. I like the singularity of purpose a Joel R15 will bring but am not convinced about it completely. If i was convinced about either one of them completely i might not have started this thread. But then what do i know, am a little dumb.
And Joel the real trouble is knowing that once i have a modded R15 you might come up with a modded CBR and then me facepalming myself. It sounds strange but KLPD is quite a common phenomenon. Especially with technology and luck.
And lastly isn't it a bit dictatorial that the argument being given for locking this thread is that CBR is not launched when the CBR bookings open thread has been going on for ages. If no one objects to that, what is harm in me wanting a few opinions for resolving my quandary, which means dilemma for those of you wondering?
Anyways thanks to those who think there is merit in my query and "your choice is really the best." to those who are trying to prove that.
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Well my friend, world-over its the same. When you tune an engine to high standards its obviously not compliant to the manufacturers level of NVH, etc. But it cant be quoted that tuning is for fools and you are better-off buying something fast in stock. Globally its a trend to buy something cheaper, build it for a decent budget and kick bigger engines WITH reliability as well. There is a trade-off point for reliability for sure, but if the components used and the sequence of tune is perfect, its bullet proof.Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Post
no offence to joel but as far I believe, by modifying, you are simply adapting the bike for a very specific use. and that is relatively easy if you consider what the corporates have to take into consideration when they make a bike:-
emissions, noise levels, cooling, bullet proof reliability, cheap, ease of maintainance, top notch paint quality, all this while it does not require a NASA engineer to service it... and the list simply goes on.
so there is no doubt that a pimped r15 will beat a mildly tuned cbr, especially if the tuner is a person of repute as joel. but the topic is completely pointless.
A GTR with a turbo/engine upgrade beating a Veyron, reliably cant be denied because it otherwise costs many many folds and there is not too much of an option to get those kicks with a piddly budget.
Performance tuning is all about kicks and is more of a heart and body affair, than a mind and body affair. You begin to snyc with the engine and the dynamics and it becomes a bonded affair. It cant be explained to someone filled with logics and questions. Its better-off left with people who are passionate and who have the spirit to live with it. A fully tuned engine will require some amount of wrenching skills to keep its lasting longer etc, but for any common man, a mild tune or a stock engine will only do.
Lastly, a CBR250 in stock is not a lightening fast bike. Its a relaxed bike with decent performance, and its indeed much slower than the ninja 250. It does not take much effort for an R15 to beat it quite badly, even with mild mods which without taking away the reliability factor.
On the other hand, the CBR can also be taken to very good levels in street tune and race tune. So it all depends on how deep your thoughts and pockets are. Both are capable performers in their respective classes.sigpic
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Originally posted by forty6 View Post
And Joel the real trouble is knowing that once i have a modded R15 you might come up with a modded CBR and then me facepalming myself. It sounds strange but KLPD is quite a common phenomenon.




i would be more interested in Modded CBR 250 Results
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IMO, A modded bike is kewl only if u racing 24/7 becoz otherwise as far as i think nobody drives at 130/140+ the entire time so at some point of time, Reliabaility/Eendurance/Stability does come inot picture.
What if i go on a Leh ladakh Trip and some modded parts gets ruined....???
Track Racin, getting more out of your bike fine....but for daily use..i dont think so....
also the fact if r15 can be modded and be driven upto stock cbr 250 speeds...then cbr 250 can also be modded and driven upto ninjas speed....similarly ninja can be modded and driven upto so on and on and on...!!!!==ALL H@!L ThE TeRm!N@ToR==
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Not necessary; one can also use the additional power gained for cruising comfortably at higher speeds than the stock engine that could not provide.Originally posted by Mukul990 View PostIMO, A modded bike is kewl only if u racing 24/7
What happens to stock part either? Does one have a YMIS showroom or Y.A.S.S over there? But again, parts such as brake shoes, clutch & throttle cables, oil filters, tyres or tubes aren't modded isn't it?Originally posted by Mukul990 View PostWhat if i go on a Leh ladakh Trip and some modded parts gets ruinedSkill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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I ride about 86 kms daily out of which around 50+ kms is on the highway, where I'm usually at 100+ speeds, so I would figure, as Aargee said, that if I could cruise even more comfortably at 100+ speeds, it would really be beneficial, and anyway modding your bike doesn't mean that you have to raceOriginally posted by Mukul990 View PostIMO, A modded bike is kewl only if u racing 24/7 becoz otherwise as far as i think nobody drives at 130/140+ the entire time so at some point of time, Reliabaility/Eendurance/Stability does come inot picture.
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Originally posted by Mukul990 View PostIMO, A modded bike is kewl only if u racing 24/7 becoz otherwise as far as i think nobody drives at 130/140+ the entire time so at some point of time, Reliabaility/Eendurance/Stability does come inot picture.
What if i go on a Leh ladakh Trip and some modded parts gets ruined....???
Track Racin, getting more out of your bike fine....but for daily use..i dont think so....
also the fact if r15 can be modded and be driven upto stock cbr 250 speeds...then cbr 250 can also be modded and driven upto ninjas speed....similarly ninja can be modded and driven upto so on and on and on...!!!!
Well... In that case, why a faster bike at all??? Say the CBR?? For me, if I wnted to mod, it would just be about the feel and not about the top speed... The Growl and the rush You get from a properly modded engine even when accelerating upto 60-70 is something different...
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Originally posted by Joel View PostJust saw this thread now.
Its a pointless topic, unless its proven. Both the machines belong to different classes and you cant deny a few advantages that a bigger motor has. The CBR250 has a really wonderful engine and I'm waiting to get my hands on one. The R15 is the best-in-class engine in its segment and unmatched and in a modified trim, can match and beat higher class machines. Its indeed a lot of value for money and a lot of fun too when souped up.
Now here is what I'd say. If you have that extra bucks to spare - go for the CBR250 (Its an amazing machine)
If you are a person who wants a wolf-in-sheep's clothing package - then go for the R15 and soup it up. Its more fun.
Very soon, I will start pimping a CBR250 and then it will be an interesting comparo.
As of now, yes a modified R15 WILL beat a stock CBR250 quite badly.
Joel Anna, If you start pimping CBR then.. i will have to save a bit more and then do the "Joelisation" on the bike. regardless, this topic is not valid until CBR hits road in april..A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P
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About 36000 on the ODO on a Joeled RTR (Who the heck came with this corny name!) and atleast 80% of it is 100+ on the speedo.Originally posted by Mukul990 View PostIMO, A modded bike is kewl only if u racing 24/7 becoz otherwise as far as i think nobody drives at 130/140+ the entire time so at some point of time, Reliabaility/Eendurance/Stability does come inot picture.
What if i go on a Leh ladakh Trip and some modded parts gets ruined....???
Track Racin, getting more out of your bike fine....but for daily use..i dont think so....
also the fact if r15 can be modded and be driven upto stock cbr 250 speeds...then cbr 250 can also be modded and driven upto ninjas speed....similarly ninja can be modded and driven upto so on and on and on...!!!!
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You got the answer from the man himself!
Originally posted by satyenpoojary View PostJoeled RTR (Who the heck came with this corny name!)and that's why i came up with the J series..JR15!Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post^^Bro, its me who came up with that word. Was feeling very lazy to type Modified/Tuned by Joel everytime. Hence the verb form.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone unintentionally.
...so the RTR will become JRTR or in short JTR(READ:Jetty R)
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