Query approved.

The bikes you have currently are no match to the KTM 200 when it comes to performance, it is really way ahead of RTR and P180 in every department, be it looks or performance. So it is definitely a desirable upgrade for anyone owning these bikes.

So if you can afford all the bikes at a time, then do it.

If you can't, don't be greedy.

KTM200 for Ladakh :

+ way better in performance
+ its Fi (less loss in Power in high altitude)
+ lesser weight
+better suspension

- its small tank
-lesser fuel efficiency - (meaning less range)
-high compression ratio (susceptible to fuel Q)
-low slung exhaust (may cause issue during nullah crossing)
-With no SC may not be easier to fix with all those gadgetry

IMHO - Save money for your Ladakh trip and take your bikes . 1 Pulsar 180 and Apache 180 went with us in Ladakh last year and both had no issues .So don't worry.

KTM200 is a street (city) bike not offroad bike as many mistake it to be.

No Service Centers for KTM???

please read properly, he already has those bikes and he is not asking whether Pulsar/Apache will give him trouble while going to Ladakh.

Would we have one in Leh/Ladakh

I stand corrected - edited my post.

dukes are to be serviced at probiking[ now turned into ktm showroom] .i don't think there is any at ladakh.are dukes good for touring ,we will only know after 6-7 months.

I feel less confused now.....

Nelson, Sayank and Sunil bhai thank you for those inputs.

Nelson, as you said KTM doesn't sound that great for Ladakh in terms of practicality. and as Syank mentioned it would be an issue in terms of service in case of a breakdown.

Sunil bhai, apka point sahi hai, may be i just shouldn't be more greedy, but kya kare? More is never enough.

Are Sunil bhai, just that i remembered, did u upload the pictures?

Thank you a ton brothers.... have a great day.

Why do you want 3-4 bikes, if i would have been in your shoes, i would have sold all three- Pulsar, apache & hero honda, and would have purchased KTM200.

Do one thing-
sell Apache RTR180 for 40,000/=
sell Pulsar 180 for 20,000/=

you have 60,000/= in cash with you. do the downpayment of 50,000/= and take a loan for rest. you still have 10,000/= with you - which you can use to purchase a bigger tank for KTM as an accessory, if you think 10L tank is small.

May I suggest something ???

You can dispose off one bike and keep the other for the mountain (Ladakh) Trips.

As suspected by many in this forum, KTM may or may not be suitable for Ladakh. Still, if you can manage, go for KTM also.

I seem to have sattled now......

Thnx again fellow bhpians.

Well, as you said (prince), makes less sense to have all the bikes, true, very true, but all the bikes i am stuck with have a reason. The Hero Street technically is my first bike, i learned on and from it, abused it, and by the grace's green light she never said enough. I still like her for a very obvious reason.

The P180 (1st generation) came into my garage with a cause again, i got only to ride it on one wheel. I agree that I don't do it that often anymore, but I am still stuck on it. Besides the price proposition doesn't stand for this old bike.

The RTR 180 is again a story to tell, with all the factors included (specially the price) i chose it over the competitors. And I personally like those hard on the throttle kind of machines. The butter smooth get away thing is not my kind. I like the aggression in the RTR.

And now with the 4th beauty in the parking lot, my mum's gonna kick me out of the house first, then the neighbors (as my bikes take a lot of parking space).

So what I have decided it to let the excitement settle. Let time pass and then decied on weather I realy want the bike or is it just because I am a KTM love and all that crapyness in my head.


And with that hope Abrakadabra has also got the point in my mind now.

But in all, thnx to Sunil bhai for making me think over. Being too greedy isn't to good. Coz if u wanna be bad.. u gotta be good.......

trade the apache and p180 for the duke you wont regret the ktm will give you twice the dose of all the thrills you enjoyed on them (the power to weight ratio will speak) before getting leh'd get accustomed with your bike(KTM)as much as possible ; keep the street even i ve my dad's m80 on which was on which i first learnt to ride its still very close to my heart

thanks again...

Hi Raja...

Really appreciate that man. Its just like you cant find a reason to let these old bikes go.... gets you so emotional at times. Also thank you for suggesting the trade. Will surely think of it.......

Have a great time....

Mileage....

Hi Folks....

Even though I always look at performance on a machine first, I was just curious to know what the fuel consumption is on the Lil orange 200 is, as I don't get to see any articles on this subject.

Appreciate your inputs.....

Duke 200 will give max 30-35 Kmpl in mixed riding

TS... I think you could safely sell off your HH street & go for KTM