test ride tvs jive,dont expect more power bue clutch free ride is comphartable to bigginer

what's ot?i was suggesting sz-r for its price and mileage ,which is comparable to a 125 cc.
gladiator doesn't look dated.

interesting..has anybody test-ridden this bike,i am yet to ride one.

[QUOTE=sayank10;779902]what's ot?i was suggesting sz-r for its price and mileage ,which is comparable to a 125 cc.
gladiator doesn't look dated.

Everyone refers the question asker as OT so I said so. I dont knw the full form
Sayank as far as I knw SZ-R gives 38-40kmpl in the city conditions. In comparison to that Shine is the best 125cc bike who want refinement and mileage (although looks are boring). Shine gives 50kmpl in the city easily even for a newbie.

the only ot i know is called off-topic,and this conversation sure is off-topic.
you can refer him as thread-starter,or as ts for convinience.

this figure is not at all true,inputs form pranjyan is needed.

[QUOTE=Enthusiastic;779932]Yes he's true, the SZ-R has the tried and tested FZ engine gulping fuel. Yamaha is known for performance bikes, they make best looking bikes with good quality machinery to extract maximum performance with some minor compromise on fuel economy where as Honda always try to maintains balance between performance and fuel economy if you ride sanely or else its just as good as a Yamaha. My SZ-R gives me 44kmpl+ in however I ride in city with stop and go stuck traffic, and sure 53+ on highways. So mixed figure adds to around 45kmpl+


My worst case mileage even when I have raced my bike has never dropped below 40kmpl. But then I use normal Shell petrol and keep my bike full tank (chances of fuel evaporation is very less so you will naturally get more mileage for fuel you added).


As for the Shine, my uncle has one (he had a Suzuki Zeus too) and even those returned around 45-50kmpl on average. If fuel efficiency is needed you will have to sacrifice on power and go for the Honda CB Twister. It has equal peppiness just as shine and gives around 55-70kmpl!

But i suggest the 4 valve Pulsar 135LS.
Has Great looks, adequate handling, pretty sore seats, cheap spares of lower cost but frequent maintainability, but most importantly well within the expected budget and mileage concious ppl!

[QUOTE=prajnyan;780057] but sz-r engine is at low state of tuning,it is not at all stressed so high mileage is expected.

[QUOTE=sayank10;780125]De-tuning or under-boring an engine doesn't give always the optimum results I feel. Creating a new engine ground-up does. SZ-R is a good example which retains the characters of FZ engine but detuned so power is lower but FE is also not much better than FZ.
Another example (my personal opinion might be wrong) I personally believe Stunner's engine is created by down-boring CB-Unicorn's engine and the sound of both the engines is almost same. Even Stunner does not give better FE than Unicorn. If you see Shine's engine was created from groundup which Honda named as Optimax (just for the sake of naming) and the sound and feel of Shine is not like Stunner (I have driven both of them much). The FE achieved on Shine is much much better compared to Stunner (though performance and engine sound is slightly inferior).

try cbr 150 r,hyosung gt 250 r.

stunner shares same shine engine,it is tuned for more power so give less mileage.

Hi vndrj_s

I am suggesting some best bikes here and the main thing about them is their resell value so check them out.
suzuki slingshot
Bajaj discover 125
bajaj platina
I would say that you should buy Bajaj discover 125 its perfect bike at 125cc engine.

add glamour and ss 125 to the list.

[QUOTE=Enthusiastic;780246]Actually, the SZR has the same engine and mikuni carb like in FZ, but I observe my bikes carb. has a sensor attached must be for better fuel management and controlling the throttle response, and thanks to reduced body weight and slimmer tyres you can get about 20% more fuel efficiency than FZ bike which gives around 38-40, the SZR will surely give around 45-48kmpl which is absolutely fair enough for a 153cc bike with a catalytic convertor( it is said a cat con eats away atleast 10% of your bikes mileage and power, but controls emission amazingly, not really sure about % here, ask experts).

One thing I can add is the bike has awesome throttle response and pulls away easily in traffic, city riding is smooth, but one thing is due to the reduced bhp, you wont get top speed. Frankly I dont see why i need to even care for it as its a risk of life going at such speed on a light 2 wheeler. I never crossed 100! (I dont wanna stress the engine which feels suffocated after 90) but frankly I am really happy to have the SZ, the engine is so nimble. Its like made for mostly city+ even highways.

And I agree to the latter part, the CB Stunner and CB Twister engine is same block as the Unicorn and if you have money rather go for the Unicorn which has same mileage as Stunner, but also a prolonged life due to lesser strokes the vehicle makes.

Have a 125cc bike at 5000rpm is like the 150cc bike at around 4200rpm. That's close to 800rpm of engine life saved! Which is why bigger cc are good for travelling outskirts of city.
Where as in city the bigger bikes still need to run at a minimum of say 2000rpm whereas a 125cc at 2000rpm will gulp less fuel. But overall Unicorn will be the winner! compared to shine, i dropped shine as that bike had issues.

I dont think any of the recommended bikes have resale value.
Due to the wear out and low quality parts, and lesser cc bikes making more movement in platina and discover, the vehicles reach their bore life quickly.

I wouldnt recommend a platina! the discover 125 or Yamaha SS125 are the best options.

The resale value is also not that much, its lower than the ones like splendor, CBZ, unicorn, FZ which have higher resale value,.

nope bro,they don't share same block.

Cousin's platina : 1.2 lakh Kms, engine yet to be touched. (Mileage still 65+)
My own D125 : 50k Kms and Didn't change Clutch plates yet. (Mileage 60)
Let's not talk about the inferiority or superiority of manufacturers. Lots of OT happening already.
As far as Thread Starters requirement goes :
100cc - Splendour, Passion, Platina, D100 (In no particular order)
110cc - Twister (This is the only one here)
125cc - D125, Shine, Slingshot, P135, SS125 (In order of mileage)

If you are not too concerned about Resale, go ahead with Slingshot. Damn smooth Engine (Puts Hondas of same cc to shame). 70kmph+ speeds and no vibration at all.
Also, since your budget is approx. 60k, except for the Twister and P135, all of them cost less than that.

Shine/P135.... Overall best options. Test drive them both.

Yes thats what Honda says. But its hard to believe any manufacturer blindly. Most of the reviewers would believe that Shines engine was a new one though. If you remember carb Stunner's major drawback was that the gearing is too short and the gears have to be changes frequently. Honda Launched Stunner - Fi (one of the most overpriced launches ever in India) and the bike did not have that issue. Honda claimed that it was the "magic" of Fi. Auto experts performed a scan of the engine and gearbox and Bertrand D'Souza of Overdrive and others reported & to quote them "We beg to differ what Honda claims. The issue is corrected by repositioning the sprocket....".

Absolutely incorrect. Most of the Indian buyers (esp <150cc) buy 2nd hand bike just because they can't afford new, can't afford high maintenance and want a super fuel effecient and commonly available machine with good service network. And Honda(or Hero) comes to their mind at first. The second that comes to their mind is Bajaj. Bikes like Splendor, Passion, Shine, Stunner, Unicorn command the highest resale value compared to their "new" cost. Bajaj bikes also have good resale value. I myself sold my 11yrs old caliber for a reasonable amount after driving it for 80k+ and having no NOC, registration of KA (otherwise I was getting 3k more). My friend bought an 2005 P150 for 22k in 2010 and sold it for 27k in 2011 . The 3rd hand cost of Bajaj bikes is very very comparable to their 2nd hand cost no doubt about it.
Also Bajaj's quality is more cut down in the body parts, rather than in the engine. I myself have driven Caliber (2000 bought) for 80k and when I sold it, it was giving me 56-57kmpl in Bangalore. There are people who have covered 50k+ kmpl on their platina and over 1.5 Lakh km over P150 Iv known.
Out of the bikes u listed comparing to their original cost Unicorn/Splendor have much more resale value compared to CBZ(low sales) or Fz.

SS125 is a big no for the TS. Yam bikes <150cc are very rare to watch on Indian roads and thus have spare parts availability probs. Also looks are outdated and there is nothing a buyer would get more if he is ready to shell 2k extra and get a brand new Shine. Shine has a more reliable engine, refinement, exhaust note that could put shame to any other bike in the country. I have driven it alot and the bike is a drag-horse. No to get flabbergasted why it is burning the sales charts at 125cc. Also 2k more extra can give him P135 if he wants performance which could put shame to most of the 150cc bikes in the country. No rocket science why it is selling like hot cakes.